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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:29 pm
by Creature
Hmm, what happened with Suka's action on Kmd?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:29 pm
by OkaPoka
me pew pew

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:30 pm
by Creature
Oh, mbaki somehow beat my postcount near the end

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:30 pm
by DrDolittle
I think you could have hammered me earlier yesterday, and get rid of moongrass before he more analysis and bring the game to lylo. but the fact you didnt was also why i townread you.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:30 pm
by northsidegal
Role PMs:


Spoiler:
Mini Normal 2046Welcome, Nero Cain. You are a
Town Voyeur
.

Abilities:

Each night you may target a player to visit them. If successful, you will learn what type of action, if any, was performed on that player that night.
Possible types of action are: {Blocking, Jailkeeping, Protection, Miscellaneous, Killing, Role Investigation, Action Investigation, No Action, No Result}

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, rb. You are a
Mafia Traitor Rolecop
.

Abilities:

You are aware that
playername
and
playername
are members of the Mafia.
As a traitor, you cannot be directly recruited, and if you are the last surviving member of the Mafia, you will be automatically endgamed.

Each night you may target a player. If successful, you will receive that player's full role name.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia is the only faction that remains or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, Varsoon. You are a
Town Universal Backup
.

Abilities:

Upon the first death of a power role of your alignment, you will inherit that power role for your own use.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, Creature. You are a
Town 2-Shot Commuter
.

Abilities:

Each night, you may choose to commute and leave town. Should you do so, any night actions targeting that night will fail.
You may use your role two times only during the game.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, mbaki. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities. Your vote is your weapon.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, Vorkuta. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities. Your vote is your weapon.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, Leodanny. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities. Your vote is your weapon.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, BrightEyedFish. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities. Your vote is your weapon.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, OkaPoka. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Abilities:

You share a private topic with your fellow Mafia,
playername
.
You are aware of the existence of a Mafia Traitor.
As a member of the Mafia, you have access to a factional nightkill - at night one of you may kill another player.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia is the only faction that remains or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your private thread is here.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment or by posting in your private thread.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, Suka. You are a
Town Tracker Follower
.

Abilities:

Each night you may target a player to visit them. If successful, you will learn who, if anyone, that player targeted that night. You will also learn what type of action they performed, if any.
Possible tracker results are: {"Your target visited X", "Your target did not visit anyone", "No Result"}
Possible types of action are: {Blocking, Jailkeeping, Protection, Miscellaneous, Killing, Role Investigation, Action Investigation, No Action, No Result}

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, DrDolittle. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities. Your vote is your weapon.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, YyottaCat. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities. Your vote is your weapon.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.



Mini Normal 2046Welcome, Kmd4390. You are a
Mafia Loyal Neighborizer
.

Abilities:

You share a private topic with your fellow Mafia,
playername
.
You are aware of the existence of a Mafia Traitor.
As a member of the Mafia, you have access to a factional nightkill - at night one of you may kill another player.

Each night you may target a player to add them to a neighborhood here. There you may discuss during the night.
Your action will fail should you target a player that does not share your alignment.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia is the only faction that remains or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your private thread is here.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment or by posting in your private thread.


Private Threads:


Dead Thread

Mafia Hideout

Mod Thread

Neighborhood


Setup Thread

Night Actions:

Night 1:


Suka Track/Follows Varsoon. (Result: No Action)
Nero Cain Voyeurs Suka (Result: No Action)
Creature commutes

OkaPoka kills rb (Result: Success, rb dies)
Kmd4390 neighborizes Creature (Result: Failure, Creature is not added to a private thread)

Night 2:

Suka Track/Follows mbaki. (Result: No Action)
Nero Cain voyeurs mbaki. (Result: An action investigative action was performed on mbaki.)
Given that a town PR dies, Varsoon inherits the role of Voyeur.

OkaPoka kills Nero Cain (Result: Success, Nero Cain dies)
Kmd4390 neighborizes OkaPoka (Result: Success, OkaPoka is added to the private thread)

Night 3:

Suka Track/Follows Kmd4390. (Result: No Action)
Varsoon voyeurs Creature. (Result: No Action)

OkaPoka kills Dannflor (Result: Success, Dannflor dies)

Night 4:

Moongrass Track/Follows mbaki. (Result: No Action)
Creature commutes.
Varsoon voyeurs Creature. (Result: Your action was unsuccessful.)

Kmd4390 kills Moongrass (Result: Success, Moongrass dies)

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:31 pm
by OkaPoka
i think i should've hammered mbaki there

i just didn't expect the wagons to redirect towards me

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:31 pm
by Varsoon
Thing that actually made me go back and vote KMD there was when I went back through my ISO and went "In retrospect, KMD's excuse for not having committed the kill here makes plenty of sense if Oka was his partner claiming having killed and ascetic."

Mbaki, you gotta not get some personal and amped in like that. It's really frustrating to deal with and makes me not wanna engage.

Also, yeah, Oka went really all in with both the ascetic claim and the casing against me.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:32 pm
by Dannflor
In post 3348, Xtoxm wrote:i thought mbaki was painfully obvious town lol

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:33 pm
by Dannflor
In post 3355, OkaPoka wrote:i think i should've hammered mbaki there

i just didn't expect the wagons to redirect towards me
in retrospect, yea, but you played really well otherwise I think

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:33 pm
by Varsoon
Like KMD's VT claim and what I quoted from my ISO
It was a bit too insightful given KMD's recent posts and I was like "Wait this is something scum might say to get townpoints"

Sorry for being such a pain to deal with.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:34 pm
by Varsoon
Was I right about scum only keeping me alive because they wanted me to ML DDL down the line or...?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:34 pm
by OkaPoka
honestly suka outplayed me there

i thought ok suka tracked me but is hesistating which means he probs got no result on me so i was like i have to claim ascetic to save myself there

and then he was gambitting

fkkk

sorry varsoon for the tunnel, i was hoping i would get townread for being don quijote but alas

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:35 pm
by OkaPoka
imo u weren't just much of a kill that mattered because u were lynchable and u weren't in a position to do anything to threaten us

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:35 pm
by mbaki
In post 3348, Xtoxm wrote:i thought mbaki was painfully obvious town lol
Its bias from my manipulative playstyle. Their dislike of me caused them to scum read me.

Take it how you will, but all of my AtE was faked this game, with the exception of d1 frustration with Fish. It was how I saw optimal to get rid of my wagon and any suspicion on me. It worked in the end via keeping me from being lynched, though I understand why this may anger some people.

No ill will Varsoon / Vorkuta / Moongrass / anyone, good game :) Sorry if you take this personally, I was trying very hard to keep my emotional abuse game related and keep anything from escalating. It is why I kept keeping things civil. I saw the traitor crumbs from rb towards me as actually a little damning, and the level of experience from players here wasn't enough to expect a traitor to fake crumb or just not crumb (a legitimate strategy), so I was contemplating how to not let myself be one of the mislynches and self voting / spamming AtE was what I came up with. So yes, I lied, my self vote was tactical and not an emotional response. I decided to continue that strategy through the game, for example I thought Varsoon needed to be lectured and Moongrass needed a powerful
bold
argument.

I do think I should have been very obv town, but it doesn't always happen like that.

I guess my reads weren't awful in the end, despite being hilariously bad d1. I did push both scum lynches pretty hard and reevaluate on DDL.

Kmd, you should know who's alt I am. You can PM me if you want. I think you already suspected it.

Scum played well other than their initial blunder. Good game all :)

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:36 pm
by northsidegal
In post 31, OkaPoka wrote:Town players left:
Varsoon (I'm planning on pushing this tomorrow as the counterwagon)
In post 34, Kmd4390 wrote:Varsoon is a good push. People seem to be hinting at scum reads but they never do anything with it.
kind of looks like it varsoon

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:36 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1503, mbaki wrote:
In post 1501, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1499, OkaPoka wrote:that's like the definition of preflipping

i dont know if preflipping is ever a smart thing to do
I- Are you calling "having reads" preflipping?
Welcome to this game.
Ok sorry idk why but this was my favorite string of posts in this game I laughed really hard when it happened just because mbaki's frustration was so palpable

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:36 pm
by Varsoon
In post 3362, OkaPoka wrote:imo u weren't just much of a kill that mattered because u were lynchable and u weren't in a position to do anything to threaten us
Oh cool then my play re: role worked 'cus I pretty much cleared myself and Creature there at the end.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:37 pm
by northsidegal
Thanks for the really interesting game, everyone! My favorite games are the ones i can follow along with as a spectator even outside of just being the mod!

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:38 pm
by Dannflor
In post 3367, northsidegal wrote:Thanks for the really interesting game, everyone! My favorite games are the ones i can follow along with as a spectator even outside of just being the mod!
+1

Also, great modding NSG!

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:39 pm
by OkaPoka
ty for timely vcs

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:39 pm
by Varsoon
@Mbaki : Nothin' taken personally, I know how frustrating it gets to be in game and really invested like that. It's actually why I sloughed away from scumreading you earlier on and even on the last day phase I was thinking, "This aggro is real, how many times have I been wrong when I pushed up against someone like this and how many times have I been the aggro player in this situation. Hm."

On the whole traitor leaving fake crumbs, I think that's a great tactic and in the future as traitor I think I'm gonna have to fake-crumb traitor to strong-town if I ever end up rolling traitor.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:40 pm
by Varsoon
Thanks for the game, NSG. It was really vanilla by the standards I typically play/mod, but I think it was a neat setup and your moderation was on-point.
I enjoyed it.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:40 pm
by northsidegal
In post 1503, mbaki wrote:
In post 1501, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1499, OkaPoka wrote:that's like the definition of preflipping

i dont know if preflipping is ever a smart thing to do
I- Are you calling "having reads" preflipping?
Welcome to this game.
saving this series of quotes as advertisement for my next mini normal

i don't know if i'll be able to keep delivering fiascos, but i will certainly try

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:45 pm
by mbaki
Actually, let's make it public.

I'm an alt of Eddie Cane. I believe about half the game knows me. I played two games on this alt with the intention of trying very fucking hard and pulling out everything I could. The first went a lot better than this one (shoutout Dann). I fucked up on KMD's name at the beginning and had to correct lmao.


I want to be clear. I don't think I played a bad game. This town was
very
hard to work with. There was a lot of slots doing nothing, very little motivation, and scum was playing well (really, I don't think killing rb is a bad kill aside from the fact he happened to be traitor). I had a very rough early game from my reads, but I don't think town wins this if I didn't play as I did at the end so :shrug:

<3

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:47 pm
by OkaPoka
ok now lets figure out who suka is an alt of