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In post 3329, Dannflor wrote:

In post 3213, MaxwellPuckett wrote:And also bc the unvote mentions dolittle (as a bear but like still)

Its true his replies have been bad and i guess calling it confbias wasnt fully right

nvm I guess you changed your mind here?

I started to see where you were coming from a bit here yeah
Still dont know if I would wanna lynch him bc I dont see why scum him chooses to act this way

In post 3326, RAS wrote:Rei's list: Maxwell > Vedith > xtoxm > DDL > Liger.
Your only votes: Dannflor > mcqueen > Rei

Unless you completely 180 on everyone you've voted/scum-read after you unvoted them, how is this list okay to you?

I have other reads besides players Ive voted and I realized Rei was rly towny after getting into the game more
Dann i just understood better from seeing him interact and esp his big reaction and OMGUS vote

In post 3234, Liger_Zero wrote:Because your opinions do look like they are being shopped so far? Not seeing much in terms of original thinking but I haven't been really reading your posts as of late so theres that.

Are you reading my posts now Liger
I dont rly care if I get lynched bc the points against me are tbh fair
But if I had to pick a scum on me its Liger
Shit Dann said about me was yeah bad, Ligers doing it here too, not to mention the vote on me amidst other players being suspicious of me
Like he just kinda slides in there w the vote while RAS and Danna are going off

And like in terms of criticisms against me ive found Danns for example to be pretty valid
Meanwhile Ligers are that Im not showing original thinking which is wild when Im defending both Dolittle and Xtoxm as everyone runs around developing partner associations based on either of them being scum
So yeah i dont think hes reading my posts either

Like if you put any thought to it most of my opinions have been unpopular so idk how you get that theyre shopped from that
Dann was def me following the crowd on that vote but thats one thing among other things
The only player ive rly ingratiated myself to is Xtoxm and if I was shopping for opinions id probably... idk try that on someone a bunch of players arent trying to lynch
But the reason Im TRing xtoxm is mostly bc a) emotional reactions are shit he doesnt fake as scum (obvs scum is allowed to have emotions i HAVE considered that) and b) I read the game Ank was talking abt where xtoxm got mislynched like this
also c) Xtoxm was a bro he reminded me or a game we were in together and said "nice to see you again" and it felt good, sue me

Liger/Vedith/mcqueen im either scumreading or just not TRing

Buj and Jingle idk

I think ive talked abt why the rest of the list is town for me but Im coming around on dolittle possible scum a bit

In post 3351, MaxwellPuckett wrote:

In post 3326, RAS wrote:Rei's list: Maxwell > Vedith > xtoxm > DDL > Liger.
Your only votes: Dannflor > mcqueen > Rei

Unless you completely 180 on everyone you've voted/scum-read after you unvoted them, how is this list okay to you?

I have other reads besides players Ive voted and I realized Rei was rly towny after getting into the game more
Dann i just understood better from seeing him interact and esp his big reaction and OMGUS vote

But like, you said Rei's lynch list was good, despite only agreeing with 2/5ths of it?

In post 3352, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Are you reading my posts now Liger
I dont rly care if I get lynched bc the points against me are tbh fair
But if I had to pick a scum on me its Liger
Shit Dann said about me was yeah bad, Ligers doing it here too, not to mention the vote on me amidst other players being suspicious of me
Like he just kinda slides in there w the vote while RAS and Danna are going off

Anything besides this that has you suspicious of Liger?

btw forget my previous read on Mcqueen I'm thinking he's town now

In post 3345, Jingle wrote:Dammit, that's like half the words I didn't want to read.

In post 3345, Jingle wrote:DDL- Tell me more, tell me more.

Other half of the read comes from a point Shoshin made before she died which made sense to me:

In post 1924, Shoshin wrote:DDL's town because he's reading the game closely. The way that he went to check your reasoning, Dann, on Buj -- that doesn't come from scum very often. It showed he was looking into what you were saying on a deeper level. There's other things but that alone should convince you.

In post 3345, Jingle wrote:PoR is bleh. Right conclusion, wrong method. Shows both a lack of paranoia in his analysis of Prince's posts and a lack of knowledge of how Prince plays scum.

Could you elaborate on this? It's true I haven't played with scum!Prince before. I do know he has a highly respected scum game however and I think saying he could be scum here because he "has a good scum game" is weird because his play has been objectively sub-optimal as "great scum play." I don't think a player like him hard buses for no reason on D1, especially not in a mountainous setup like this. It doesn't make sense imo. Tell me where I'm wrong

In post 3345, Jingle wrote:MickyQ is BoP-y and I don't think MickyQ is a BoP player.

Yea I've rethought this

I'll dedicate a post to my read on you before I sleep tonight

In post 3349, MaxwellPuckett wrote:

In post 3328, Dannflor wrote:Additionally, don't you pretty strongly town read DDL, Maxwell?

townlean rn
was thinking of vedith and liger when i said that i liked it

In post 3354, MaxwellPuckett wrote:I think ive talked abt why the rest of the list is town for me but Im coming around on dolittle possible scum a bit

I'm confused as to what your read on DDL is.

In post 3352, MaxwellPuckett wrote:

In post 3234, Liger_Zero wrote:Because your opinions do look like they are being shopped so far? Not seeing much in terms of original thinking but I haven't been really reading your posts as of late so theres that.

Are you reading my posts now Liger
I dont rly care if I get lynched bc the points against me are tbh fair
But if I had to pick a scum on me its Liger
Shit Dann said about me was yeah bad, Ligers doing it here too, not to mention the vote on me amidst other players being suspicious of me
Like he just kinda slides in there w the vote while RAS and Danna are going off

Yeah, I see that people are getting more suspicious of you and that theres growing interest in a wagon on you.

In post 3353, MaxwellPuckett wrote:And like in terms of criticisms against me ive found Danns for example to be pretty valid
Meanwhile Ligers are that Im not showing original thinking which is wild when Im defending both Dolittle and Xtoxm as everyone runs around developing partner associations based on either of them being scum
So yeah i dont think hes reading my posts either

Like if you put any thought to it most of my opinions have been unpopular so idk how you get that theyre shopped from that
Dann was def me following the crowd on that vote but thats one thing among other things
The only player ive rly ingratiated myself to is Xtoxm and if I was shopping for opinions id probably... idk try that on someone a bunch of players arent trying to lynch
But the reason Im TRing xtoxm is mostly bc a) emotional reactions are shit he doesnt fake as scum (obvs scum is allowed to have emotions i HAVE considered that) and b) I read the game Ank was talking abt where xtoxm got mislynched like this
also c) Xtoxm was a bro he reminded me or a game we were in together and said "nice to see you again" and it felt good, sue me

I don't think defending xtoxm is all that unpopular as you are saying it is. Nor is dolittle.

In post 3358, Dannflor wrote:I'm confused as to what your read on DDL is.

He is going back and forth because he is reading the game to see where to make read changes. Isn't that obvious? Seems obvious to me.

In post 3361, Liger_Zero wrote:

In post 3358, Dannflor wrote:I'm confused as to what your read on DDL is.

He is going back and forth because he is reading the game to see where to make read changes. Isn't that obvious? Seems obvious to me.

Actually I can see an organic reason to be suspicious of dolittle as of late but not sure if that is what max is looking it.

I think dolittle is town though some bad posts don't equal scum.

Max is a good wagon. Best wagon. Greatest wagon even. Anyone want to be apart of this?

In post 3361, Liger_Zero wrote:

In post 3358, Dannflor wrote:I'm confused as to what your read on DDL is.

He is going back and forth because he is reading the game to see where to make read changes. Isn't that obvious? Seems obvious to me.

Townlean i dont rly want to lynch but i understand the scumread possibility there from Danns pov

In post 3355, Dannflor wrote:Anything besides this that has you suspicious of Liger?

I also got this feeling earlier from Liger when he was saying I was relying on other players for reads bc I happened to be interested in talking abt reads w other players

Okay seriously I 100% cant understand how you see that and think "hmm contradiction" and w/o even considering that you may have misunderstood what I meant you go to me being dumb scum that cant keep a read on a single player straight for literally five minutes

In post 3355, Dannflor wrote:But like, you said Rei's lynch list was good, despite only agreeing with 2/5ths of it?

I also said "besides me and Xtoxm" idk why you cut that part out dude
I saw a couple of players in my scumlist on the list and so my reaction was "list ok just take out my townreads and also me"

I don't think you are dumb scum.

I'm having a hard time with this game, and I can't figure out why. I've solid town-reads, but I can't seem to get any solid scum-reads. I think my vote on DDL upon thinking it through again isn't for the right reasons, and I think a big part of why I'm voting him is because I don't like the way he's been playing and expressing himself. I don't really think DDL's getting lynched today regardless, and I'm unsure as to whether or not I even want that lynch anymore.

I need to give this game a read tomorrow and look at it differently since I'm finding myself lost every time I visit this thread, and it's not a feeling I usually have.

UNVOTE: DDL.

In post 3257, northsidegal wrote:

Votecount 3.6

Xtoxm(3)

~ mcqueen⁽¹⁹⁾, Vedith⁽¹⁸⁾, Prince of Renais⁽⁸⁵⁾

Dannflor(3)

~ Extrapolated Eagle⁽⁶⁸⁾, Ankamius⁽⁷³⁾, MaxwellPuckett⁽⁴⁶⁾

Ankamius(3)

~ Karmeleon⁽⁸⁷⁾, Dannflor⁽³¹⁾, DrDolittle⁽⁸⁸⁾

Vedith(2)

~ Liger_Zero⁽⁶⁰⁾, NerfedBuJ⁽²¹⁾

DrDolittle(2)

~ RAS⁽³⁹⁾, Jingle⁽⁸⁷⁾

Prince of Renais(1)

~ Xtoxm⁽²¹⁾

MaxwellPuckett(1)

~ Reiuji Utsuho⁽⁵⁷⁾


Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-05 16:49:59)

sitting out until 3 days left.
if there's no consensus wagon by then I'm leading.

i still think the sole true deepwolf candidate in this game is xtoxm.

depends if you count jingle as a deepwolf candidate i guess. i wouldn't.

there was once a game where I misread who the scum was because I failed to read time stamps when I was catching up

I'm trying to reread the game and keep them in mind and maybe I'll see something new

In post 243, grapes wrote:I'm familiar with a good chunk of names here... but im pretty sure just lycanfire, gamma, extrapolated eagle, vedith and xtom have been in a game with me before.

good news: i think there is always at least one scum on this list. even reasonably good odds of both scum. virtually never all town
bad news: that doesn't actually poe the game down that much given that 4 of the slots are currently in the general lynchpool