In post 3239, Auro wrote:Titus, please explain your read on me. If you're town I'm looking for something specific.
I have no clue what you're looking for but I feel the wagon on you is too easy, you're not defensive, you're asking mostly fair questions, and there's better suspects.
In post 3333, Auro wrote:... she's a claimed neighborizer+rolecop, right?
This.
VOTE: Auro
I don't like Auro trying to put everyone with Pine either.
So Titus is pretty sure I'm town, and also that I have a big ego which I need to get past. It's a very weird accusation to level on me, especially when I'm being transparent with my reasoning.
Titus should not have been townreading me. At least for those reasons. At least at the point that she posted 3247, Titus should know that defensiveness is not a scumtell (and thus non-defensiveness is not a towntell), and I doubt that "asking fair questions" is something Titus would townread me for, either. I can't provide evidence for this because rules, but what Titus' beliefs about what makes me town or not at the time she made that post should be are inconsistent with what she's stated, and is thus highly likely a scumclaim.
Titus' sudden 180 on me is surprising, because my thoughts could very easily be "wrong egoistic town", which she was pretty sure about when I was voting Pine earlier. Note that she gives 0 reasoning against the Pine associations. It's hard to believe that I would become the biggest suspect *merely* from my teamsolves.
There's no attempt at engagement. There's no real questioning to figure out alignments. Throughout the day, Titus has only been going for the most viable wagon which isn't Pine.
I checked to see her D1 predecessor was off the Wimpy wagon as well, and made mild attempts to divert it too perhaps. Detective Pikachu's posts around the Ank lynch are actually consistent with the idea of scum!DP.
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:22 pm
by Espeonage
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:33 pm
by Auro
In post 3339, Pine wrote:Auro has hard scumreads on like...a third of the playerlist right now.
Third of the playerlist: 3 players
Number of scum remaining prob: 2 players
I think {FL, TFL, Looker, Rex} are all town.
{Bob} idk, but on the towny side of null.
{Insomnia} recent attack is scummy, but I'd suspect if you were scum
{Titus, Pine} my current solve.
Given that some of my reads are associations and not individual scumreads, and individually speaking I have a whole lot of townreads, this is a pretty dumb accusation. Framing it as "a third of the playerlist" when that's just one more than the number of scum remaining is very ick.
Accusing me of "throwing out all kinds of shit" is also a dumb accusation - did you ever hear of "gamesolving" or "re-evaluation"? Secondly, it's very unfair to say I'm not exercising logic or procedure - I'm making an effort to detail my processes, and if something's unclear you can simply ask like Insomnia did.
These are standard attacks scum take when they push me when I'm actively posting.
Titus and Pine have both hopped on opportunistically after Insomnia's appeal to FL to fulfill his promise. TFL's vote here isn't particularly scummy, *but* if Titus flips town later, revisit this.
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:39 pm
by Auro
@TheFuzzyLogic: Please don't vote outside Titus/Pine after my lynch.
@Looker: Titus and Pine both have much higher scum equity than TFL. I'll need you to stop tunneling TFL (unless Titus flips town) and vote in Titus/Pine tomorrow. Can you do that? If there's something you disagree with, let's talk now.
@FL: I think scum may have picked up on something related to why you're a bad NK target. Go for Titus/Pine tomorrow and *not* Bob. There's a chance Insomnia will attempt to get you to vote Bob instead, ignore that and go straight for Titus/Pine. I'm here if you want to discuss.
@Rex: Sheep my dead reads pls! As I said, Titus' stated beliefs about me is a scumclaim and although I can't prove it now, my flip should show that I'm saying the truth - and I'm very confident of this.
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:10 pm
by Titus
Guys 7 hours to deadline. Auro is L minus 1. Pine is L minus 2. We need a lynch.
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:12 pm
by Titus
I still don't like Rex not voting here.
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:14 pm
by Auro
Titus, given I'm flipping because of FL's promise and I'm saying I'll flip town... You don't want to talk about my push on you?
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:17 pm
by Titus
In post 3356, Auro wrote:Titus, given I'm flipping because of FL's promise and I'm saying I'll flip town... You don't want to talk about my push on you?
No. No time today. I want to properly respond but I have to sleep soon and watch for votes.
Despite TRing Pine, I will hammer him if he gets to L minus 1 given the deadline.
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:25 pm
by Auro
Interesting
Undecided about the better lynch in {Titus, Pine} tomorrow.
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:51 pm
by insomnia
VOTE: Pine
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:52 pm
by insomnia
Technically from my solve I’m voting wrong but Pine isn’t getting anywhere even near LyLo
Fuck no
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:58 pm
by insomnia
You know what
VOTE: Auro
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:02 pm
by insomnia
VOTE: Pine
Fuck me man for fuck’s sake
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:06 pm
by Auro
Reasons for FL town:
1. He has a consistent, years-long meta of not bussing scum partners D1; it's very highly unlikely that he chooses to not just bus but take the lead in that lynch now.
2. FL would almost never promise Insomnia (who can plausibly lead town) his vote, after a partner's lynched. (Only if they're SvS but this is definitely not the case)
3. FL has no need sorting me when I don't hold his push on my slot against him, and am perfectly fine with him voting me because of a "promise".
If FL is taken to LyLo and anyone 1v1s him, always lynch the other slot. Treat FL as an IC after my flip. Dead Auro will treat pushes against FL as scumclaims.
This is towny for Insomnia
Insomnia, say you come around to lynching me anyway, let's talk about Titus?
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:31 pm
by insomnia
DP is Krazy
Ank has years long meta with krazy
He would’ve pushed her lynch and not defend her there
Nothing to talk about but I will reconsider everyone if this is town anyway
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:35 pm
by Auro
I know who DP is lol, and I know they have meta together.
DP knew FL was super hard tunneled on Ank, it could very easily be scum posturing, with intent to NK Ank if she had survived anyway
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:07 pm
by Auro
3 hours to deadline. What's with these weird lulls in the game?
Wasn't this the hammer? If it wasn't, VOTE: Pine. I know I said I'd write a full argument, but the deadline is much closer than I thought, and I don't have time to write more than this quick post (for irl reasons). I'll write one at the start of the very next day, though.
I hope this is right.
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:42 pm
by Espeonage
Pine has been lynched! they were a
Spoiler:
Mafia Goon
it is now night 3. deadline for night actions is in:
(expired on 2020-02-22 20:20:00)
please submit night actions by either posting in a PT or PM'ing
both
skitter30 and espeonage with your action
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:46 pm
by skitter30
titus has died last night! she was a
Spoiler:
town combined rolecop/neighborizer
is is now day 4
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:50 pm
by Auro
Interesting nightkill, considering I was about to push Titus today.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:58 pm
by Auro
I think she targeted me - I got a message about a neighborhood I apparently don't have access to.