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skitter should visit pooky

In post 3337, skitter30 wrote:i'm leaning towards townreading you but i'm not sold yet

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i'll try to make s bigger post later on to explain it as best as i can. but like. ughhh.

In post 3349, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:dsj's point is that skitter visiting him and him getting the pm from mod confirms skitter because then that's 2 people who got the PM from the mod.

The reason why dsj wants to be visited is because he thinks he's lynchbait so if the scum kill him to prevent skitter from getting confirmed then it's 1 less lynchbaity person in the lylo - conversely he also could think scum wouldn't kill him since he is lynchbaity and they want to keep him around for lylo

Assuming he isn’t scum, wouldn’t scum killing him confirm Skitter anyhow? Don’t you think it is far more likely scum kills duckling in this scenario?

In post 3350, the worst wrote:skitter should visit pooky

If Pooky is telling the truth about his claim, this makes way more sense.

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I still feel like I'm probably a late miselim if I can't eat a NK here

in what world are you a misexecute here duckey

Tbh I feel pretty obvtown but I still can't shake the feeling.
I should be nk'd before endgame anyway tho so it's a moot point.

ducky, who is scum?

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I don't townread either of dsj or Pooky anymore. I kinda don't want to talk about my townreads or give tiered reads rn.

I keep going to say "if I'm wrong it's blah" then remembering that's tiering my reads : )

Do my townreads really need to be secret if I'm camping skitter tho

i'd say no, but i don't know if i'm the right person to ask that.

ugh, skitt, i think i'm better at bouncing ideas real-time than making wallposty cases (by that i mean i'm shit at making wallposty cases)

i'll write out some of my ideas now, so for when you come back:

how likely do you think is that there's scum in {dats, duck, s_s}? i wanna talk setup specc (i promise those two sentences are related)

what i meant by "reminds me of coalition" is that from his posts in there, (when looking from an informed perspective) it appeared to me like the posts are specifically made to ~assume the worst in another person~ and then ~present it as a fact~.

like, what i mean is, during day1 or day2 of coalition (i'm not sure off the top of my head), nomination mafia (pooky's scumgame) was going on. now, i wasn't reading that game. i was reading nahdia's flavour, and while doing that i was looking at flips, and once i realized the game got down to 5p lylo, i thought that was interesting so might as well see what happens. i was waiting for the results of the nomination phase since there's a chance town instaloses there. well, that didn't happen, and it was mod confirmed there's at least one scum in {elbrin, pooky, yukino}. on the same page that the mod announced the results of the nom, i skimmed a bit, and saw these posts:


and even though i had read literally other game posts in that game, in my mind i went "lol pooky is so scum here". because this just reminded me of coalition (which was ongoing but i had spoliers hehe). it was just... taking a normal thing elbrin said and absolutely twisting it beyond sanity to make it appear ~it makes elbrin scum~ and then ~present it as fact~. like it just gave a huge vibe to me of "deciding embrin is scum" > "looking for arguments why he is scum".

and just... pooky's posts in this game are giving me the exact same vibe. i can't shake it off. so many things about what he's wrote about aldus jsut look like blatant "decided aldus is scum" > "looking for reasons why aldus is scum" to me.

like his argument about aldus being scum because he reacted to the whole miccro mask thing is because aldus is scum who is thinking about his own difficulties and who's struggling to come up with fakeclaims. (768) i point out that that cannot an actual reason why aldus is scum because scum is given safe flavour fakeclaims (770) was that ever addressed? did pooky stop to rethink his scumread of aldus when ? no, he had more reasons why aldus is scum for the miccro mak thing in 974. (not to mention B) point was later refuted as straight up false by aldus but o-kay)

and this part of that post:

In post 974, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:but just think for a second how difficult it would be to believe that a protown power role would decide to hide themselves in a different vanilla game by telling the moderator to change the participation account from their account to a masked account in the pregame immediately after roles are dealt out - like would anyone believe that a power role would do this? I don't think so and I don't see how it's reasonable for Aldus to think this is possible either.

i kept saying how that is actually the very thing i believed but did i ever receive any heat for thinking the same thing as apparently the obvious scumlord aldus???

and like this post:

In post 1223, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:here's the acceptable reactions I would've thought is within DonC's townrange:

1) He believes koba - massive hardcore flaming - I don't think someone with donC's skill level would actually believe a day-vig is possible in this setup but I could be wrong here.

2) He doesn't believe Koba - he tells koba he's lying and full of !@#$ - this is what I would expect Town DC to do.

Instead we got a reaction that's kind of like a last will thing and we all kind of played along and it feels scummy to me because it feels like DC knew Koba didn't DayVig him but he took adv of it anyway to give this last will type reaction. I dunno I think it feels fake.

like is it really that hard to believe that donc thought "ok this vig is probably fake but on the very very low chance it is real i'm gonna give my last thoughts"?? like this is what i mean by presenting a skewed reality as fact (also sidenote was pooky attacking donc because donc was gunning for dsjstr? thonk)

and like most of pooky's posts from 671 onwards
like i don't know how else to explain it other than "deciding to present someone as scum, taking any of their posts, twisting it to make it scum by any moonlogic imaginable, presenting it as a cold hard fact" and like

skitt i am begging you to consider what i'm saying here

fuck me that turned into a wallpost

anyway yeah.

In post 3349, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:dsj's point is that skitter visiting him and him getting the pm from mod confirms skitter because then that's 2 people who got the PM from the mod.

The reason why dsj wants to be visited is because he thinks he's lynchbait so if the scum kill him to prevent skitter from getting confirmed then it's 1 less lynchbaity person in the lylo - conversely he also could think scum wouldn't kill him since he is lynchbaity and they want to keep him around for lylo

In post 3334, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:here's my dilemma

I'm pretty townish on SS Raven Datisi

Skitter basically has to be town at this point with that role right? I don't think TW is fakeclaiming.

which leaves dsj - scum

but that means one of my reads on SS- Raven - Dats is wrong.

if DSJ is town it means I'm complete wrong about the game-state.

I've re-read a fair bit but it feels murky - I'm legit super paranoid rn about a Raven/SS scum team - which would be pretty much GG for us if true.

Hey can you please clarify this? Do you sr dsjstr or not?

In post 3338, dsjstr wrote:Only way for you to not be 100% confirmed is if you go for the person that gets killed.

In post 3347, dsjstr wrote:

In post 3345, skitter30 wrote:

In post 3343, dsjstr wrote:The v/la wasn't the problem

then i don't understand what you're trying to say and can you just answer the question plz?

I believe you are asleep now so you can see what I saw tomorrow morning, I have no idea what you were trying to say.

If I was right about the 3 PR's then you can see how clearly fmpov it is raven/dats, I don't see how

koba

could have been scum.

If Dats/me are the likeliest scumteam fypov, then why fypov, does scum!Dats confirm town!Skitter? Town!Dats obviously doesn’t confirm scum!Skitter either, so either the exact scumteam is Skitter/Dats or they’re both town.

So, why do you continue to push me/Dats as the scumteam if you tr Skitter? And your 3 PRs theory also doesn’t fit with that either since neither of us are claimed PRs.

erm excuse you raven, i am a town lover which is obviously the strongest town power role there is, how dare you

on a more serious note, yeah, dsjstr started with "there's probably a liar in the three power roles" to "pooky is obviously lying but i don't wanna vote him in case quickhammer" to "nevermind power roles are fine, it's raven/datisi"

now tell me that scum!dsjstr lays off his "pooky is scum" theory if pooky is actually town here and dsjstr sees me hardpushing pooky... oh yeah, he doesn't.

also yeah, scum!me, as townread as i was, never confirms town!skitter there. come on now. it was gonna be another juicy day of arguments going nowhere.

In post 3367, Datisi wrote:erm excuse you raven, i am a town lover which is obviously the strongest town power role there is, how dare you

on a more serious note, yeah, dsjstr started with "there's probably a liar in the three power roles" to "pooky is obviously lying but i don't wanna vote him in case quickhammer" to "nevermind power roles are fine, it's raven/datisi"

now tell me that scum!dsjstr lays off his "pooky is scum" theory if pooky is actually town here and dsjstr sees me hardpushing pooky... oh yeah, he doesn't.

This is why I asked him to explain those two posts because the first one sounds like he’s sr dsjstr but the second one tr him.

In post 3368, Datisi wrote:also yeah, scum!me, as townread as i was, never confirms town!skitter there. come on now. it was gonna be another juicy day of arguments going nowhere.

Exactly!

if you dont confirm skitter u autohang today lol

i see the probability of scum dats choosing to not confirm town skitter at close to 0

i don't?? like both tw and skitter were going at each other while i was universally townread also scum roleblockers exist so lol??

In post 3371, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if you dont confirm skitter u autohang today lol

also those are really bold words from someone who was townreading me and scumreading skitter by eod1

again, skewing reality presenting it as fact