Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:01 am
@Momrangal
, regarding thingy thingo shh. Did you read my ISO. Say no more than yes or noMark is not likely town bc of a claim. I believe mom suspects mark of being a mafia goon. Rolecop on mafia goon will show up same as vt.In post 3315, JacksonVirgo wrote:See, this is exactly why I do not trust your judgment. You say you assume tomorrow is LYLO, meaning you're voting who you think is Town which is stupid. You also say that in LYLO we should NOT look at Noraa which is plain stupidity as LYLO is where you should look at EVERYTHING you possibly can to not lose. You also say that you're confident that it's a DGB/Mark scum-team even though I've been constantly saying why I think DGB is mechanically Town unless a protective claims, which nobody has yet to debunk outside of Noraa but as they said they don't have setup speculation experience and it appears they don't as well (sorry Noraa :C). You say Mark is likely Town because of their claim yet COMPLETELY contradict yourself here by saying you're thinking of a DGB/Mark scum-team. Either you're witholding or even lying about information, in which I won't accept, or you're just absolutely bonkers and repeat my first eleven words. In addition, you state the obvious by listing everyone who will be alive except the person we are voting and yourself who would probably get shot tonight as you're a Mason.In post 3295, Momrangal wrote:Noraa
Marky Mark
DrippingGoofball
JacksonVirgo
Infinity 324
This is the composition that I'm expecting tomorrow.
I'm also expecting tomorrow to be LYLO
I don't think DBG should get let off the hook tomorrow, I don't think Nora should be looked at tomorrow.
I'm thinking DBG/mark scum team
Pedit: it is
I looked at that and thought that and my mind believed that scum will compromise half of town
My first three games on site were all scum games and half the players all said there was no way noobscum could be this good.In post 3322, Infinity 324 wrote:I think it's important to recognize when someone's out of their scum range and I think most people who only have one scum game on site couldn't fake what mark is doing this game, much less someone who was limmed d1 in their only scumgame
ngl, if u are sure vax is town, u should push a SR of urs today bc Jacko has a point. U probably die tonight.In post 3324, Momrangal wrote:I'm also not expecting anyone else to look at anyone else but vax and even if I manage to convince to get another lynch, people will still look at Vax tomorrow
I did not understand that. explain.In post 3332, JacksonVirgo wrote:Ah okay that makes more sense now you put it like that.
Dunno. Was pretty certain he was scum at one point but I also suck ass at reading infinity so that's fun.In post 3334, JacksonVirgo wrote:@Noraa, @Infinity, what's your current reads on the other. I am asking this for a reason, but I cannot say until you both answer (and if I remember).
wdym 0 pressure?In post 3338, Marky Mark wrote:In post 3334, JacksonVirgo wrote:@everyone, when you see this post. Quote it and full-claim with any results you have regardless of previous plans as we're either in LYLO or we're going into a LYLO after tonight and I would like to treat this as LYLO for safety. Also write a tier-list for reads and a brief description about why that read is the case whether that be mechanical, gut or anything. Scum usually have weak ass reasonings where Town wouldn't.
Let me reiterate.
If there is a protective, DGB is likely counterclaimed by your role and thus forcing the 1v1 in a likely LYLO or the day before LYLO is the pro-town move.
@Momrangal, I want to clarify what Math's results were as they have multiple abilities. Or did they still get two vanilla results on Mark and Guillotina?
@Vaxkiller, explain how exactly your role works. EXACTLY, but do not copy+paste (or fake one if you're scum) as that's not allowed. If you are Town and if this is LYLO you are putting us in a very very bad position.
@Noraa, @Infinity, what's your current reads on the other. I am asking this for a reason, but I cannot say until you both answer (and if I remember).
@Mark, is there a reason that you've become non-existant in this game where in other Town games you're one of the most active?
@DGB, can you explain why you roleblocked who you did the previous two nights and also claim if you have at least one roleblock remaining.
Let's have a stab at this
I'm straight-up VT (best role in the game IMO as 0 pressure)
I have been less active mainly due to the Christmas break, which I am spending with the family. I thought this would mean that I had way more time to be active on here, but the reality is that we have been doing a lot of stuff together IRL. Sorry! It also doesn't help that most of the posting and interactions seem to take place overnight for me, due to that being evening in the US.
I totally get people SRing me here based on my play this game, but would like to hear from people who are as to why so that I can have a stab at sorting them between town and opportunistic scum.
We've not heard back from DGB ref who they blocked last night have we? That would certainly help with a solve. I hadn't considered the setup spec angle of sorting DGB's slot, so will mull over that, but I can deffo see the guilty on pig as being a potential bus (seems like good scumplay imo).
One thing that crossed my mind last night is that if DGB is scum then there was no blocked kill N1 so potentially JV could be scum too and using the vig thing as a gambit (ie kill Toog N1 with factional kill and claim it was a vig shot).
Noraa is my top TR atm - I just feel like we've been thinking along similar lines for much of the game so far. I can see Vax being scum here based on llama's play and the late PGO claim. Tbh I honestly thought the solve was Infin/Guillo, but now having to revealuate my life after Guillo flipped town and infinity got a negative on the motion detector last night. Will wait and see what DGB has to say about their result, but am v likely going to vote within Vax/DGB today.
ooof jacko ur looking a bit flaily here :/In post 3348, JacksonVirgo wrote:@MarkyPoo, from memory you acted incredibly nonchalant regarding my vigi claim as if you expected the claim due to some form of TMI. I also remember a few weak ass interactions with Piggy that seemed like distancing when I re-read around my claim. I'm not gonna push on the activity thing as holiday's is a fine excuse although I feel it's been relatively all game which is a much different tone and energy whacker than I expect from town!you.
Infinity has been blatantly copying my reads over and over and I feel it's either a pocket attempt or my reads which are being copied are god-tier, although the latter is probably not the case as nobody else seems to be bothered to even read or acknowledge them.
so to finish on the half correct thing, if dgb was jacko's partner and wanted to prove the claim, they would've outed earlier and not waited that long?In post 3357, Noraa wrote:hm. *sigh*
I haven't actually thought about DGB scum = Jacko scum but I think that's actually only half correct bc if DGB scum, the Pig kill wasn't blocked. They used it on Toog. Jacko claimed toog. They might've doublekilled
If I remember correctly, DGB also waited an enormous amount of time before claiming the block. It honestly does look like buscred if we look at it from that persp
Well my theory of you being scum with DGB is based on PR mechanics (if DGB didn't block the N1 kill, then either scum no-killed N1 or the kill on toog WAS the scum kill and JV fakeclaimed to cover it) so clearly that talk wasn't happening on D1In post 3346, Marky Mark wrote:What talk? I don't quite follow, sorry.In post 3345, JacksonVirgo wrote:Also that talk has been going on since D1 so you talking about it now is a tad late tbh.
Yeah I mean the vig claim seemed initially fairly legit to me as would be risky for scum to claim vig and risk a CC from a town vig.In post 3348, JacksonVirgo wrote:@MarkyPoo, from memory you acted incredibly nonchalant regarding my vigi claim as if you expected the claim due to some form of TMI. I also remember a few weak ass interactions with Piggy that seemed like distancing when I re-read around my claim. I'm not gonna push on the activity thing as holiday's is a fine excuse although I feel it's been relatively all game which is a much different tone and energy whacker than I expect from town!you.
YesIn post 3350, JacksonVirgo wrote:@Momrangal, regarding thingy thingo shh. Did you read my ISO. Say no more than yes or no
If my reads are wrong, I don't want Vax around because I'm unable to defend him. I feel like keeping vax around will cost us the game.In post 3353, Noraa wrote:ngl, if u are sure vax is town, u should push a SR of urs today bc Jacko has a point. U probably die tonight.In post 3324, Momrangal wrote:I'm also not expecting anyone else to look at anyone else but vax and even if I manage to convince to get another lynch, people will still look at Vax tomorrow
that serious?In post 3366, Momrangal wrote:If my reads are wrong, I don't want Vax around because I'm unable to defend him. I feel like keeping vax around will cost us the game.In post 3353, Noraa wrote:ngl, if u are sure vax is town, u should push a SR of urs today bc Jacko has a point. U probably die tonight.In post 3324, Momrangal wrote:I'm also not expecting anyone else to look at anyone else but vax and even if I manage to convince to get another lynch, people will still look at Vax tomorrow
This is possible BUT a cross-kill seems unlikely as Toog was being widely SRed D1. Doesn't make sense for scum to NK here imo as its an easy miselim target for them UNLESS they needed to be able to frame it as a vig kill.In post 3357, Noraa wrote:In post 3348, JacksonVirgo wrote:@MarkyPoo
I haven't actually thought about DGB scum = Jacko scum but I think that's actually only half correct bc if DGB scum, the Pig kill wasn't blocked. They used it on Toog. Jacko claimed toog. They might've doublekilled
There wasn't any real pressure on JV tho, so there was no imperative to 'clear' themIn post 3361, Noraa wrote:so to finish on the half correct thing, if dgb was jacko's partner and wanted to prove the claim, they would've outed earlier and not waited that long?
-Trying to imply I am in a 1v1 with DGB and then loudly TRing DGB is a cheeky way to try and convince people to lim meIn post 3349, JacksonVirgo wrote:[7]Horsewoman:JacksonVirgo, Momrangal, Toogeloo, DrippingGoofball, Guillotina, Mathblade, Marky Mark
[6]AGamblingPig:Flea the Magician, Marky Mark, Infinity 32, Momrangal, JacksonVirgo, DrippingGoofball
[5]Guillotina:Marky Mark, Infinity 324, Mathblade, Momrangal, Noraa
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Usually VCA is EVERY VC after a scum-flip but eh it's fine I'll just do these. Horsewoman wagon should have at least one scum on it and the only possible scum is DGB and Marky Mark. So they're in a 1v1 or it was a full-town wagon which in post-game would be hilarious. On Piggy's, DGB's vote here solidifes my TR on them I think, if they both were scum bussing each other with a "red-check" I would have assumed they would have tried voting earlier to gain the most cred, but no they voted last which doesn't really seem like it's fueled by an agenda. DGB/Mark/Infinity all on this wagon. Gills was a stupid wagon over Vax and I have to look back to see who it was that saw my logic as to why the chances that Gills was a blocked kill, accepted it as true, yet voted there anyway over Vax. I think it was Markypoo but could be either Noraa/Infinity as well. Mark/Infinity/Noraa. Vax being gone out of all of them is frustrating but what can you do.
Mark is on all three wagons, Infinity and DGB on two, Noraa on one and Vax on nuthin'. I am seeing a Vax/Mark scum-team now to be completely honest. Mark, can you give your thoughts on the VCA as well? Same with anyone tbh.