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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:41 pm
by Bell
Got a reply.
I die during night phase.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:41 pm
by Bell
Well, more specifically, I die at the beginning of night phase.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:40 pm
by Guillotina
End of Day or Start of Night?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:40 pm
by Guillotina
I know it's kinda the same but it's not.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:46 pm
by Bell
Based on my interpretation if I had to take it as literally as possible.
I would put it at just after the day has ended.

so,
(Day)Voting stage -> Elimination stage -> I'm here -> Start of night phase.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:24 pm
by Guillotina
In post 3354, Bell wrote:Based on my interpretation if I had to take it as literally as possible.
I would put it at just after the day has ended.

so,
(Day)Voting stage -> Elimination stage -> I'm here -> Start of night phase.
Ok. Do you 100% scum read Dunn?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:30 pm
by Bell
No.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:32 pm
by Bell
changed my mind on math blade. I thought he might have been scum taking the position of laying me into my grave while trying to try a town read out of me.
He could still be, but he's looking rather broadly at the game.

I'm trying to figure him out.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:35 pm
by Bell
There's also the general issue that nobody seems to be on Dunnstral's side this game.
If you aren't scum then his buddy is arguably bussing him.

Well, I mean.
Actually.
Hmm.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:38 pm
by Bell
I have a sinking feeling.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:41 pm
by Dunnstral
Also nobody has listed a single reason for me being scum, so that ought to tip you off.

Guillotina, did you lie about your role or what? What are you implying

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:42 pm
by Bell
Let me think more seriously about your question guilotina.
Dunnstrall isn't a bad elimination just because I'm not town reading him


On the other hand, I'm wondering now about how people are playing around you.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:43 pm
by Bell
In post 3360, Dunnstral wrote:Also nobody has listed a single reason for me being scum, so that ought to tip you off.

Guillotina, did you lie about your role or what? What are you implying
there really isn't an actual argument for you ever being scum because of how you play being really difficult to interpret.
Rather, i doubt if you ever roll scum I'll ever even notice the difference because what would the differences even be?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:46 pm
by Bell
The vestiges of my firebringer town read is suddenly dying a violent death.
They seem informed of your alignment, their reaction makes less sense.
Though arguably BM positioning themselves is even more strange because he should know i'm going to die so why even tunnel on me if he knows I'm
a) going to die.
b) am wrong? He called you scummy anyway so it's not like im pushing me makes him look better in hindsight.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:49 pm
by Bell
How would I even begin to build a case on scum dunnstrall?
What would that even look like?

VOTE: FB

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:52 pm
by Bell
What I mean to say is that while other players were noting how you responded was 'bad'

FB defended you without making a true case essentially letting you dry out and die while pushing an alternative on Dunnstrall.

let's suppose FB is scum for a moment and Dunnstrall is town and you're town guilotina. (we're assuming here).

FB is pushing for Dunnstrall to be in the arena with you, thus killing him or putting him in a position to be killed.

The problem here is that I'm not sure which of dunnstrall/FB is just scum knowing too much or not.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:53 pm
by Bell
Or whether both players in the sum team are pushing you because it's convenient and there isn't necessarily a need to take opposite stances.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:55 pm
by Bell
Cookie+MB+BM

Dunnstral+??

FB+Cookie/MB/BM?

Would scum FB push on scum partner dunnstrall while holding that guillotina is town?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:56 pm
by Bell
Who here has watched DBZ up to the Cell games?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:57 pm
by Bell
I know FB has.
But who else?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:59 pm
by Bell
Bleh, there isn't really enough time for this.

but I think we should probably be putting more thought into who we put into the arena with Guilotina.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:01 pm
by Bell
Fb+BM?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:04 pm
by Dunnstral
Figuring me out across games is something that is very doable. In this game, maybe not so much, though I'm not sure why I'm being considered in the first place

I need to know if Guillotina lied about their role for some reason. This is the whole reason we are voting them

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:04 pm
by Bell
I think putting one of BM or FB into the arena is sound.

I think the scum team is in Dunstrall/FB/BM/MB.

I also think, I need to narrow the pool further and I need to exclude at least one more player from that to plausibly win the game.

I keep vacillating as to whether I'm being manipulated by MB or not.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:06 pm
by Bell
In post 3372, Dunnstral wrote:Figuring me out across games is something that is very doable. In this game, maybe not so much, though I'm not sure why I'm being considered in the first place

I need to know if Guillotina lied about their role for some reason. This is the whole reason we are voting them
I don't think if they're town they lied about their role, (or maybe they did) but they might also have concealed additional abilities.
or I'm paranoid.