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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:50 am
by fireisredsir
i was blocked n3 and uncrowned acted last night

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:52 am
by furtiveglance
In post 3350, fireisredsir wrote:uncrowned acted last night
TEA

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:52 am
by jjh927
Well, that gives us a good indication of who should claim next

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:53 am
by fireisredsir
the thing with pengu is like, his claim checks out with everything he's said all game, and he already knew my claim so it doesn't make sense for him to fake claim something that seems kinda in conflict with my role

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:54 am
by jjh927
It's worth remembering that at this point, people probably need a particularly good reason to act at night

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:03 am
by fireisredsir
i wonder if datisi like intentionally made role costs be slightly not equivalent to their actual usefulness in order to confuse people/prevent outguessing the mod kind of stuff

like 15% for a tracker shot vs 150% for a cop shot? 25% for mine, and 70% for a TA?

maybe like part of the game is figuring out if your ability cost is worth using

i was assuming (and i think most people were) that the cost would like balance out to make all prs roughly equal in usefulness/cost, but in a normal game that's not how it works, some roles are stronger than others, so i don't think that assumption necessarily has to be true

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:05 am
by PenguinPower
In post 3355, fireisredsir wrote:i wonder if datisi like intentionally made role costs be slightly not equivalent to their actual usefulness in order to confuse people/prevent outguessing the mod kind of stuff

like 15% for a tracker shot vs 150% for a cop shot? 25% for mine, and 70% for a TA?

maybe like part of the game is figuring out if your ability cost is worth using

i was assuming (and i think most people were) that the cost would like balance out to make all prs roughly equal in usefulness/cost, but in a normal game that's not how it works, some roles are stronger than others, so i don't think that assumption necessarily has to be true
You’re probably right.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:06 am
by PenguinPower
Fire can be town I guess.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:08 am
by Klick
Also sounds plausible to me fwiw

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:11 am
by fireisredsir
if that is the case then oops i probably failed the mechanics test LMAO

my role probably was not worth using all 4 nights, my bad

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:25 am
by PenguinPower
In post 335, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 329, Something_Smart wrote:you can probably assume that town will make some collective effort to keep average productivity in the 75-85% range.
I don't think this is a safe assumption!

would love to be wrong though
In post 1174, PenguinPower wrote:like it's grating on me now - base psychology is going to have town using their power because people at heart are not logical.
:)

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:31 am
by fireisredsir
i was trying to be logical but apparently not

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:32 am
by fireisredsir
Image

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:33 am
by fireisredsir
i have some Thoughts on uncrowned btw which i am really itching to share but i think it's better to wait for the claim

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:21 am
by Andresvmb
In post 3330, PenguinPower wrote:You all are acting like idiots.

Fine. Massclaim.

I’m a forum mafia player (tracker) base 15% cost + 10% for each subsequent shot. I’ve been banking productivity and used my first short last night in Andre (didn’t go anywhere) since if we’re in 17:4, it’s basically a cop shot. This is why I’ve been skeptical of fire’s productivity claim since the original claim as I can get three full tracks out for less than three of his shots.

Piss off.
It wouldn’t necessarily clear me, but you’ve known that I didn’t act N1 (which means I’m either harnessing productivity points as Town, VT, or Scum with no power), and you still voted me yesterday? For the sake of a wagon? What nonsense is this?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:22 am
by Andresvmb
Like ugh that’s kind of annoying.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:22 am
by fireisredsir
he used his shot last night, not n1

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:23 am
by Andresvmb
In post 3338, PenguinPower wrote:I don’t want to say entirely right now. But the hammer on mala was sus.
Yeah, suspicious. I saved furtive so I could hammer my Partner. This is honestly silly.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:24 am
by Andresvmb
So then I’m clear. That’s even worse. If I didn’t go anywhere, then I didn’t kill anyone. Which I know I didn’t. But even less reason to be saying that I’m suspicious. Unless I’m what, Ninja? And really?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:25 am
by fireisredsir
i don't think he's saying you're suspicious now, he was explaining why he chose to track you

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:26 am
by Andresvmb
Well now we know I just hammered correctly and my perspective is Town. Unless I’m a Multitasking Ninja Roleblocker, which I suspect no one believes.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:27 am
by Andresvmb
Since Penguin is clearing me I’ll Unvote.

UNVOTE:

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:28 am
by Andresvmb
Also, the last Scum is always between {fire, Penguin} then. They’re claiming what is essentially the same role. But then I’m even more confused about that vote yesterday.

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:29 am
by Andresvmb
Like I doubt Town has two Trackers? Is that what we’re saying?

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:30 am
by Andresvmb
To be fair, Datisi did troll us with that One-Shot Cop being Town.