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Instead of arguing Titus' point, how about I just tell a story.

Funnily enough it involves DkKoba

About a year ago I was a Universal Backup

So DkKoba got suspicion day 1 around their slot, apparently by an alleged cheater and the game got canceled because of it... but that's irrelevant

DkKoba claimed a partial backup

So I was a full on Universal backup and DkKoba claimed to be a partial backup (sounds a lot like Frogsterking/Titus).

OFC Koba was mafia in this game.

Being the mech noob I was, like I was paranoid but I didn't really do too much about it, but we killed some other mafia day 1 so I decided that I would out the next day.

Next day just kind of never ended up happening because of the alleged cheating scandal involving someone suspecting Koba initially. So I just posted what I was going to out with postgame.

But postgame I was being told that stuff like this really doesn't happen in typical setups by other people that postgame. The game was also using the mafiascum format/setups mostly at the host's discretion but it was on another site.

In post 3347, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3345, Titus wrote:

In post 3336, Cape90 wrote:titus' claim still doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I think the claim was easy to make anyways. Also marci was quite literally another investigative this game anyways, and titus as another investigative with mathblade and Enchant as town seems pretty frozen wolf to me. Like they are only pointing fingers at the "scummiest" people versus what is actually mechanically viable

It was easy to CC someone for literally no gain?

Irrelevant. Had to CC whatever your alignment.

If Frogger checked you and you turned up role cop and didn’t it’s a guilty.

You hadn’t made up your mind that Frogger would die yet and there was a high likelihood you’d be checked.

Okay let's assume Titus is mafia.

What motivation of mafia killing rolecop, if every mafia so far claimed truthfully and can't be caught redhanded? Who they wanted to protect?

Frog had a lot of influence. They are killing Frog, not Rolecop, otherwise Titus would have been as just a scary threat.

In post 3350, Toogeloo wrote:Frog had a lot of influence. They are killing Frog, not Rolecop, otherwise Titus would have been as just a scary threat.

This. Look at Frogsterking last read...StD scum.
That hasn't changed.
Wagons didn't change.

I'm in a bit of bored phase tbh. While Math was ordering people v mech, I solved by play and I'm just waiting for catch up.

Lol season ends the 14th. Grind time

But you are pushing Cape, which has never been in Frog's PoE. Maria was though, StD was as well, and Frog had a ton of skepticism over Math trying to out PRs while resolving Pooky.

Pushing Cape is where you lost me yesterday. Cape is town.

In post 3353, Toogeloo wrote:But you are pushing Cape, which has never been in Frog's PoE. Maria was though, StD was as well, and Frog had a ton of skepticism over Math trying to out PRs while resolving Pooky.

Pushing Cape is where you lost me yesterday. Cape is town.

Then we can argue Maria v Cape tomorrow. I am 100% Luke scum. Like 85% on cape

UNVOTE:

For now. No reason to keep you at -1. Kind of surprised at no Enchant hammer, tbqh, lol.

In post 3355, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:

For now. No reason to keep you at -1. Kind of surprised at no Enchant hammer, tbqh, lol.

Why

Why would you hammer E-1?

In post 3357, Toogeloo wrote:Why would you hammer E-1?

Exactly.

Why i would?

Lulz

wha

In post 3349, Enchant wrote:

In post 3347, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3345, Titus wrote:

In post 3336, Cape90 wrote:titus' claim still doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I think the claim was easy to make anyways. Also marci was quite literally another investigative this game anyways, and titus as another investigative with mathblade and Enchant as town seems pretty frozen wolf to me. Like they are only pointing fingers at the "scummiest" people versus what is actually mechanically viable

It was easy to CC someone for literally no gain?

Irrelevant. Had to CC whatever your alignment.

If Frogger checked you and you turned up role cop and didn’t it’s a guilty.

You hadn’t made up your mind that Frogger would die yet and there was a high likelihood you’d be checked.

Okay let's assume Titus is mafia.

What motivation of mafia killing rolecop, if every mafia so far claimed truthfully and can't be caught redhanded? Who they wanted to protect?

Titus because she’d be the invest that can find the important PR roles. She was being defensive the moment Frogger claimed.

There’s also the idea to protect BGC. We had a plan going Titus was against,

If Frogger I and NM all live Frogger checks BGC or Titus there’s two guilties,

BGC if didn’t visit town Pooky would be outed because of his suggestion.

But when NM claimed disloyal vig afterward then Pooky was dying.

So if BGC dies instead Pooky is confirmed scum who gets elimmed anyway.

In post 3350, Toogeloo wrote:Frog had a lot of influence. They are killing Frog, not Rolecop, otherwise Titus would have been as just a scary threat.

I disagree. Frog was killed due to role.

If Frog wasn’t killed there me v Frog would been incredibly proscum.

*still gobbles crow*

Lukewarm, MathBlade
Titus

Enchant, Cape90, MariaR, Toogeloo

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VOTE: Titus

Mackin' my bed and sleepin' in it.

As i stated, one is likely mafia, but silent agreement on Titus cuts my nerves now.

Problem is, i don't understand motivation of scumteam at all.
Frog was killed when there was revealed Disloyal Vig and no revealed protectives.

Targeting Frog no matter how he was right Rolecop VS Disloyal Vig no matter how he was jestery is ??? play, unless mafia have way to shut down vig notlethally and they seems to be not. I didn't pay attention on this before, but seems like mafia claiming trully, especially if you want argue Titus!scum who are most likely are rolecop and would't fear other Rolecop. So they have no merit to kill rolecop from role perspective.

Frog needed to be to be chosen, instead of loyal vig.


... Or mafia are not competent. Possible. MathBlade is actually competent... But i already was in game, where i blindly townreaded him when mafia made most bullshity claim just to get instakilled, and i was like "oh mathblade would suggest more belivable claim if he was mafia".
Yeah, Math was maf in this one. So while we both think about mech in priority, i have no clue how Math ticks. Even less i know about how Titus tick.

EIther way, i am not hammering yet. Need to think it over.

The existence of a "Mafia loyal bodyguard" is baffling. If BCG had protected Pooky, BCG would die, and everyone would know Pooky was scum regardless.

Scum don't have a roleblocker, or you are right, NM probably dies first. So the best they can do is cut Pooky loose. Kill the most vocal player on the town side, and hope that whomever NM shoots the next night isn't one of them when they kill him then.

In post 3366, Enchant wrote:As i stated, one is likely mafia, but silent agreement on Titus cuts my nerves now.

Problem is, i don't understand motivation of scumteam at all.
Frog was killed when there was revealed Disloyal Vig and no revealed protectives.

Targeting Frog no matter how he was right Rolecop VS Disloyal Vig no matter how he was jestery is ??? play, unless mafia have way to shut down vig notlethally and they seems to be not. I didn't pay attention on this before, but seems like mafia claiming trully, especially if you want argue Titus!scum who are most likely are rolecop and would't fear other Rolecop. So they have no merit to kill rolecop from role perspective.

Frog needed to be

damn right

to be chosen, instead of loyal vig.


... Or mafia are not competent. Possible. MathBlade is actually competent... But i already was in game, where i blindly townreaded him when mafia made most bullshity claim just to get instakilled, and i was like "oh mathblade would suggest more belivable claim if he was mafia".
Yeah, Math was maf in this one. So while we both think about mech in priority, i have no clue how Math ticks. Even less i know about how Titus tick.

EIther way, i am not hammering yet. Need to think it over.

If Frog was shot because Rolecop and Titus was town >> Why is Titus not dead?
If Titus is town then Maria and Toog (would double check later I can’t remember if Luke is checked) are the only possible other PR scum.

We know that I am a voyeur you saw me
We know that Titus checked rest as VT.

Titus does not go after them.

This reads like Titus caught and avoiding spew

In post 3366, Enchant wrote:As i stated, one is likely mafia, but silent agreement on Titus cuts my nerves now.

Problem is, i don't understand motivation of scumteam at all.
Frog was killed when there was revealed Disloyal Vig and no revealed protectives.

Targeting Frog no matter how he was right Rolecop VS Disloyal Vig no matter how he was jestery is ??? play, unless mafia have way to shut down vig notlethally and they seems to be not. I didn't pay attention on this before, but seems like mafia claiming trully, especially if you want argue Titus!scum who are most likely are rolecop and would't fear other Rolecop. So they have no merit to kill rolecop from role perspective.

Frog needed to be

damn right

to be chosen, instead of loyal vig.


... Or mafia are not competent. Possible. MathBlade is actually competent... But i already was in game, where i blindly townreaded him when mafia made most bullshity claim just to get instakilled, and i was like "oh mathblade would suggest more belivable claim if he was mafia".
Yeah, Math was maf in this one. So while we both think about mech in priority, i have no clue how Math ticks. Even less i know about how Titus tick.

EIther way, i am not hammering yet. Need to think it over.

Enchant, you said it yourself that it is weird that there are so many doubled roles.

Role cop + role cop
Voyeur + Voyeur
Tracker + Tracker

But, there is a distinction in there.

Marci was half of a tracker(even night), and furtive was a third of a tracker(joat with 3 abilities). They combined to like of a full tracker getting to shoot every night as long as they live.

You are a 1 shot, night 3 voyeur. That added to a full voyeur is not really much in the grand scheme of things. As of right now, on day 4, You + Math = of a full voyuer shooting every night and that just goes down the longer the game goes on.

But Frog was an ungated rolecop, and Titus has claimed 4 results for 4 nights. They would combine to of a full voyeur right now. I know titus has claimed to be out of shots, so would be lessening over time. But that would not start lowering until DAY 6!

That is definitely the most overlap of the overlaps.

And it makes more sense to me that scum gets a rolecop then scum gets a voyuer anyways. (both are confirmed to be true claiming their roles by how you handled start of day 4). Rolecop actually is useful for a scum team in this set up, to find the vig / doctor / joat. While voyeur, is just... kinda weak.

I hate this feeling. I feel i was right, but i am never right statistically speaking.

Therefore, i could protect obvmafia again. I am still not sure of this matter, but something to be done.

Fine.

VOTE: Titus

Mech mech mech mech

Meanwhile the most obvious scum coast because Titus is omg perfect scum ever.

We lose this game now because Math won't give credit to town.

Because omg we have to mech things. Ignore any discussion of Luke cape.