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i would not have counterclaimed as titus did.

i would have played along

oh well

ok so um hooray? we lynched scum?

↑ mastin2 wrote:

Btw, Mac's town.100%. Not saying why. If you can't figure it out, just trust me, okay? (I'll need to take a look at that wagon to see where the scum are in it.)

aristophanes was mac



VOTE: mastina

after mastina flips scum, LC is next

TSO got the Cop, debated whether to hit Wicked or Flubber, happily hit Wicked.

Town.

So, yeah. 7th time lucky, mastin?

↑ Antihero wrote:

Final Vote Count of Day 3

Aristophanes - 8 (Flubbernugget, T S O, Kari, Sonic Boom, Fluminator, Cerberus v666, Nachomamma8, Jaqen Hghar)

Kari - 4 (Aristophanes, vezokpiraka, Wickedestjr, Lying Cat)
Wickedestjr - 1 (mastin2)

Not Voting: ika

So, Flubber is town, i'm town, Sonic is town. Flum is town/Constantine is town. Those are the current assumptions I have in looking at this.

So in the pool of TSO, Kari, Nacho, Jaqen, i expect 1 scum(two is possible, but unlikely, simply because either of the two of those who voted earlier could have voted Kari and swung the momentum to that wagon easily, but didn't, and I find a Nacho/jaqen/Aristo/x team unlikely, and also unlikely that they would both just bus that slot like that when Nacho was around inconsistently enough for a no lynch to be easily explainable.

That means there are 2 in vezok, wicked, lying, mastin, ika.

Sonic, I don't think Mastin's bad read on D1(right? it was D1?) is a reason to scum read her. Do you have anything more?

↑ T S O wrote:TSO got the Cop, debated whether to hit Wicked or Flubber, happily hit Wicked.

Town.

That makes it super easy.

VOTE: TSO

I have no idea why this makes it super easy - is this a counterclaim?

Because if it is - this would have to be the worst scum play ever and we'd definitely lynch you before we lynch me.

If this is some bullshit about confirming the chain - die.

Also, Titus, after this game I'd like to discuss how I could have crumbed my knowledge of what the invention was to you in a fashion that was non obvious. I think that's what screwed up the whole thing. I didn't want to reveal the invention, but doing so was the only way for you to think i wasn't just lying.

pedit: No, it's because the people i feel who are most likely to be scum on the aristophanes wagon are yourself and Nacho, so I feel there's a good chance that you're scum there, combined with the added bonus of chain confirmation stuff. There are others I'd be willing to vote too, but that made that particular choice easy for me.

My vote on the Aristophanes wagon was exactly the sort of play I wouldn't make as scum - it contributed to the death of an important scum role and it gained me no towncred. Look to the Kari wagon for scum.

The further you are from the start of the Aristo wagon, the more likely you are to be scum on it. Flubber would be borderline confirmed town if he hadn't flipped, I am town, and Kari is also borderline confirmed town. Someone like you appears significantly worse off.

Also, please don't attempt to mumble stuff about "mmm it confirms stuff yknow" and wander off - it's not going to work and just makes your push look more suspect than it already is.

↑ T S O wrote:My vote on the Aristophanes wagon was exactly the sort of play I wouldn't make as scum - it contributed to the death of an important scum role and it gained me no towncred. Look to the Kari wagon for scum.

Well yes, there's clearly likely more scum on that wagon than on the aristo wagon. So, let's accept for a moment that you're town, and thus it's extremely likely that wicked is as well. We're left with LC, Vezok, mastin, Lying, as the the individuals most likely to be scum?

TSO, I don't care about how "suspect" anything I do looks, pretty much ever. I lay out my thoughts and why i'm thinking what I'm thinking. I'm wrong sometimes, I'm right sometimes, but how what I do is viewed is never a concern to me.

I also never understood why people always immediately make any dispute about situations like this immediately into a me vs you thing. Anybody want to explain that to me? Just because i think you're scum doesn't mean you need to immediately attempt to diminish my credibility.

Also, TSO, is there any particular reason why you never claimed who you were going to investigate if you received the cop, and why you didn't investigate me? Do you share Jaqens concerns about transparent cop targets?

Let's lynch cerb. This shit is unbelievable.

He bullshit claims he got the third invention and is counterclaimed immediately by titus.

Then somehow the weak cop goes to TSO who mysteriously investigates some other than cerb. And our weak cop dies.

I wonder why I wanted cerb dead earlier. Seeing how both him and TSO were on the Aristo wagon I have the feeling scum already know all the inventors and don't really need the role cop anymore.

Why would I investigate Cerb, when it's obvious I was going to investigate Wicked if I got it?

↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:

↑ Lying Cat wrote:

Yeah. I agree.

Thirded

↑ vezokpiraka wrote:Let's lynch cerb. This shit is unbelievable.

He bullshit claims he got the third invention and is counterclaimed immediately by titus.

Then somehow the weak cop goes to TSO who mysteriously investigates some other than cerb. And our weak cop dies.

I wonder why I wanted cerb dead earlier. Seeing how both him and TSO were on the Aristo wagon I have the feeling scum already know all the inventors and don't really need the role cop anymore.

vote cerb

That's a bit of a stretch if you're using it as the reason for voting me.

↑ T S O wrote:Why would I investigate Cerb, when it's obvious I was going to investigate Wicked if I got it?

Hmm. I'm not sure it was wholly obvious. I disagree. There were definitely a few different options you could have investigated. You even said you were waffling between some choices yourself. If YOU were uncertain who you were going to investigate, it's disingenuous to say it was obvious to everyone else who you would target.

↑ vezokpiraka wrote:Let's lynch cerb. This shit is unbelievable.

He bullshit claims he got the third invention and is counterclaimed immediately by titus.

Then somehow the weak cop goes to TSO who mysteriously investigates some other than cerb. And our weak cop dies.

I wonder why I wanted cerb dead earlier. Seeing how both him and TSO were on the Aristo wagon I have the feeling scum already know all the inventors and don't really need the role cop anymore.

vote cerb

I mean, the only way I can *know* what the invention is AND who it went to would be if scum control this invention, or scum have a rolecop in addition to the vanilla cop we've already seen, plus a day tracker or something to see who inventions went to.

So, sure, that's reasonable, if you think scum have this invention. Sonic, do you think SC is scum, and if not, do you think scum would have given that invention to SC two nights in a row?

Greetings all! I'm replacing some other player. I'll get started today by looking over the game.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:Greetings all! I'm replacing some other player. I'll get started today by looking over the game.

Titus tracked you to the kill last night. Explain yourself.