Mainstream Mafia II: D&D Edition [FIN]

[AaronFrost]

I didn't think I'd ever have to create a rule about off-topic discussion. Or mass multi-posting.

Please don't make me have to.

Why are you cherry picking posts from 1200 posts ago to comment on them like any of them mean anything? The game started on day 1. Play with us in the real world or keep playing with memories of the past.

Game started on Page 1 and arguing other wise is bad
Like do you think I shouldn’t be trying to read the entire game? Because the off-topic discussion actually makes reading not super painful.

I mean you do you but personally I'm not reading anything from that entire governor phase. If I wanted to read 90+ pages of memes, I'd go on Reddit, which I do.

[InsideJob711]

I think Nero started to want to push me when I said my slot is self-resolving and wants more info
that sounds scummy but he's probably town :/

[Nero Cain]

don't even try to scumhunt b/c you can't even do it.

[chennisden]

sigh.

[InsideJob711]

not really sure its a secret that my early that my early game is trash

[Formerfish]

Maybe you should work on that instead of it being a comfortable status quo and crutch/excuse for bad play.

And if you know that, don't be such an obstinate ass in the first few days.

[Gamma Emerald]

We can definitely make this the longest game on site.

I'm already a part of the largest newbie game on site, why not go for longest large game as well?

You guys wanna talk about religion next?

God is dead. Discuss.

Yeah, why the hell did your attitude change pal?
Also, why are you acting like you can still Gladiate? I thought you could only do that once by how you described it earlier.

[Nero Cain]

Like do you think I shouldn’t be trying to read the entire game? Because the off-topic discussion actually makes reading not super painful.

yeah but Gamma. It has nothing to do with the game and all it does is add more useless and if you're town all it's doing is making ppl want to lynch you.

Also, if you're town you should be trying to help scumhunt and you can't do that unless you start replying/producing game content.

Of course, if you are scum then not doing that is a decent play.

[Gamma Emerald]

So I lose my gladiator because the mod went against what the gladiator was meant for?

This sucks, I'm like fucking vanilla now.

Yeah see what the fuck are you are about rn

[Gamma Emerald]

In fact I kinda feel the behavior with the gladiate is kinda scummy
Including the sporadic reposting of the fact that it happened

[Nero Cain]

Maybe you should work on that instead of it being a comfortable status quo and crutch/excuse for bad play.

And if you know that, don't be such an obstinate ass in the first few days.

love this post but you know most players are complete shit.

[Formerfish]

In fact I kinda feel the behavior with the gladiate is kinda scummy
Including the sporadic reposting of the fact that it happened

Right, because it wasn't getting lost in Creatures shit posts...

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: 3 post Scumread on Rauth

Okay then...
The governor shot has an advantage that Bingle didn't bring up earlier.
It gives reads. The whole process of voting for the governor shot, and then later how the person with the shot uses it, generates reads. And I believe that offsets the mechanical disadvantages of the shot.

Having said that, at this stage in the game there's only one role that could effectively use governor in this situation that can get away with claiming right now. And that would still be heavily ill-advised due to the presence of a cult. So if we do give someone the governor shot, we probably won't be doing it for mechanical reasons. And since we haven't had enough time to form good reads yet, the next strategy we could use to give the shot is to give it to someone who can be read somewhat easily to see how and if they use it in the first few days.

So I'm going to VOTE: Creature (I could be convinced into voting for DEB as well.)

I mean, DEB seemed pretty easy to read in my last game. (Then again, he got confed day 2 so... my perception might be inaccurate)
And it has been a while since I played with Creature, so if they're no longer an easy read I guess I'll just UNVOTE: and see what other people think of my strat.

Everyone who posted earlier than me is slightly suspect.

Any logic to this?

I got my PM, said "oh hey, this will be fun when it starts" and then left it to chkflip to tell me when it started because I had nothing to do, no reason to engage with the game.

On the other hand, someone who gets a scum PM has a scum PT and is engaged with the game and waiting for it to start and thus noticed when the nonsense begins. Obviously plenty of people will see it in the Large Theme list and what not, but all equal, anyone who posted before chkflip deigned to tell us the game started gets a mild mark against them.

Or, you know, had the sign-up thread bookmarked and noticed the title for the sign-up thread had changed to say the game was now up. That's also possible.

And I disagree that the cult recruiting the governor shot is an issue, I guess it should be clear that that slot probably won't survive very long. (And since it has a high probability of becoming cult then scum would probably shoot the slot at some point.)
To be clear whoever gets the governor shot is the day 5 lynch if they last that long and cult isn't already accounted for. (Exact day adjustable depending on the number of night kills we end up having at night and whether or not there's an early cult leader death. But yeah, as zoraster said, this is a 40 player game. We can afford a one-shot governor, especially if it allows us to create reads and start discussion before getting into day 1. Suggesting otherwise isn't necessarily alignment indicative considering that it's probably the mechanically correct choice, but I don't think it's the correct choice with all things considered.)

First of all, there's so much waffle in these posts I thought I'd walked into a Denny's. Second, he rambles on about explaining exactly why he's doing what he's doing, which makes me think he's very concerned about how people see him and not too concerned about how he sees other people. He's doing this for reads, apparently, but when I've repeatedly asked for people to explain how the existence of a governor gives reads he's been silent. (And yes, this conversation has given the opportunity to read people, but no more than a normal D1 would. And it's certainly caused a lot more thread apathy because of people sitting on their hands doing nothing waiting for the real game to start.)

As soon as he receives pushback on the idea, he drops it with a "I guess I can see what people think of my idea." Unvoting at L-20. Which shows a real commitment to using it as a mechanic to scumhunt.

Further, as soon as zor comes in with a similar sentiment, he jumps right back into the same thing, but the tone isn't "I believe this thing" but rather "Look, someone else believes this thing! I'm not SCUMMY!" And even still, while blatantly hiding behind zor's agreement, he feels the need to defend himself from zor's thought that people who joined the thread early were more likely to be scum.

tl;dr, quickhammer no governor so we can lynch this.

I would vote to kill this.

Bingle or Rauth?

[davesaz]

I can't tell yet if Gamma is trying hard, or trying to look like trying hard.
3383 is a decent find. I actually remember that post from FF and had questioned internally whether the offer to gladiate again was a gambit or not.

[Formerfish]

So I lose my gladiator because the mod went against what the gladiator was meant for?

This sucks, I'm like fucking vanilla now.

Yeah see what the fuck are you are about rn

I'm role playing since I shot my load and missed the target.

Now I will be a cult of personality and hopefully can act like somewhat of an IC.

[Gamma Emerald]

You have (expired on 2019-11-16 22:00:00) left in this phase.

I don’t like how short this is

[Formerfish]

Day 1 Vote Count 1.2

Amrun -

Menalque, Dongempire, Iconeum, chennisden, gobbledygook

Wooper -

BBmolla, Enter, Doctor Drew, Formerfish

TrueSoulEnergy -

Cephrir, Chemist1422, AaronFrost

Rautherdir -

Bingle, KidAmn, InsideJob711

Firebringer -

Amrun, Creature

Creature -

Firebringer, Untrod Tripod

Bingle -

Flavor Leaf, Rautherdir

Flavor Leaf -

Dr Easy Bake

Gamma Emerald -

zoraster

Nero Cain -

TrueSoulEnergy

Doctor Drew -

Flavor Leaf

InsideJob711 -

Nero Cain

Menalque -

Virgo the Immaculate

40 alive, 21 majority.
You have (expired on 2019-11-19 22:00:00) left in this phase.

Cult Q&A is coming tomorrow.

The timer is off in that one. This one looks correct

And according to you the game has been running this whole time, why are you starting to complain about the time?

[Nero Cain]

oh hey,

TSE

. Who would you be ok lynching today?

[Nero Cain]

hey now, I'm the cranky one that gets to complain. Stop stealing my shtick, bro.

[Gamma Emerald]

final election count 1.7

No Governor (21) -

Bingle, xofelf, davesaz, Gamma Emerald, InsideJob711, chennisden, BBmolla, Enter, gobbledygook, Amrun, Iconeum, Chemist1422, Creature, cephrir, dong empire, Menalque, Pine, wooper, The Fonz, zoraster, Nero Cain

TrueSoulEnergy -

TrueSoulEnergy

chennisden -

Formerfish -

EspressoPatronum,

No Governor hammered. It is now day one. 21 still majority.
You have (expired on 2019-11-16 22:00:00) left in this phase.

Korina is no longer silenced.

Ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu............


Guys. I get that in the end there had to be a lot of town saying no gov, but shit I felt like I was into something with what I was doing and then with the fact that no one was talking about a silenced player who gains speech with a resolution to the gov situation...

What does Korina have to do with what you’re talking about?
Also, yes pre-Day 1 counts as readable content but we’re starting from scratch for the vote, <1 week feels like a bit of a crunch. Not calling it impossible, but yikes.

[Formerfish]

I'm glad you started interacting with us in real time. There are enough of us online for you to bounce things off of.

Nero seems ok, Ali can be our chaos factor and you should be able to see town me or we really are going to have an issue.

[Formerfish]

Only thing Kor had to do with that was that it was another wrinkle to that that we hadn't explored.

Kor didn't reveal anything when he posted, so that idea is moot.

[Gamma Emerald]

jadesmar needs to replaced or policy lynched

Why is that the name you chose to call out?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm glad you started interacting with us in real time. There are enough of us online for you to bounce things off of.

Nero seems ok, Ali can be our chaos factor and you should be able to see town me or we really are going to have an issue.

Only thing Kor had to do with that was that it was another wrinkle to that that we hadn't explored.

Kor didn't reveal anything when he posted, so that idea is moot.

I’m pretty sure there were other recent posts I had responded to as well. What is the second line of that first post talking about, I see no real common thread for those things you mention.
As for Korina, Ok. You made it sound like it had to with whatever you were talking about with the voting

[InsideJob711]

I'm glad you started interacting with us in real time. There are enough of us online for you to bounce things off of.

Nero seems ok, Ali can be our chaos factor and you should be able to see town me or we really are going to have an issue.

I'm just sheeping pink ball tbh