with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:39 pm
by Datisi
Vote count 2.00
with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2020-09-30 12:45:00).
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:55 pm
by bob3141
In post 3133, NDMath wrote:I'll look at plusjoy tomorrow, I agree with plus's logic that if IV is town I want to get it done with since it's gonna be hard to change enough people's minds (mine included) to not elim him later on.
VOTE: innocent villager
L-1
NdMath you does seem like your wagon chasing. Seems to me you have just been supporting what ever is the going wagon. Dont think ive seen you push any wagon that someone else hasnt started all game. You push me then as soon as my wagon goes. You then say your ok with ouska. Osuka wagon breaks up and tehn your all for IV. Your town read disappearing on IV as soon as he is the lead wagon
Why did did you swap to IV from osuka. When frankly IV end of day was prety townie.
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:57 pm
by bob3141
The only reason that any one could give is damage limitation to avoid a flash lynch hitting a town pr. And at the point you swapped your read there was still a few days to deadline
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:05 am
by shellyc
Comprehensive review during night:
Tayl0r Swift - huge scumpings on this slot. ISO shows that they are agreeable and no effort into solving. Blending and no strong opinions, was on that ridiculous iv wagon opportunistically. Scummy
Andresvmb - some effort into solving, tone seems fine. But I have gut doubts here especially after rereading newbie 2023. Null, need to see more tbh, slightly town
teacher - Like his posting, scum!kerset wants him to be a mislim, rolestopper mistake is very genuine and they show logical trajectory. Townie
Saudade - Shows very townie emotions, no scum would tunnel someone from what, page 3? Their read on obvscum Kerset is great. Townie
Menalque - Competent player so I have doubts but thought process is fine and the way they defended IV was probably genuine. Nullish town
PlusJOYED - After rereading the confrontation I think the aggression is within their scumrange but it's likely TvT and I'm being wrong on them. Plusjoy does have a fairly weak scumrange (don't get me wrong, this isn't personal). Their reads are weird but scum probably does not go against the grain so much. Confusing posting but this seems TSTBS so townlean
NDMath - ascetic claimer + rolestopper makes sense. placing IV at E-1 isn't that good of a look. generally lurking. Agreeable and seems to want to dodge the thread rather than scumhunt. Scummy, but probs depends on bob's alignment here
Kerset - ISO devoid of content, teacher susp is a clear deflect, don't see doc playing like this. the scummiest person in this thread especially with iv townflip
bob3141 - again, falls into the "apathy + agreeable" category. ISO does not display a solving mindset. Vote on teacher looks super bad. Scummy
Ydrasse - Hammer was +scumpoints and ridiculous. I HATE THE HAMMER. but overall super townie vibe so probably downgrade to null here. Ydrasse crushed a newb game as scum so they have the potential as a deepwolf here. Null
osuka - Kerset / osuka is *probably* TvS here, with Kerset almost lockscum at this point. In hindsight when reading their ISO they are quite disagreeable and seem like classic lynchbait. Null but all depends on kerset.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:06 am
by shellyc
rip saudade you will be remembered
VOTE: Kerset
I will avenge you
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:09 am
by bob3141
In post 3029, teacher wrote:Andres is town. Come get Bob who is now just straight lying about my own past games.
How am I
newbie 2007. You were a mafia goon partnered with a scum roleblocker. <<< your last game and all of sudden your claiming that scum have rolestopper. Yet got mixed up with roleblocker
Also in post 20 of your pt you claim scum shoudl ignor there start info.
newbie 1991 - in post 4 you talk about keeping crumbs small.
newbie 1983
you say yout effort scum player. that tries to ignor his alignment. In it you talk to your partner about claiming
in post 10 you say you crumbed tracker in your opening post
So i can very easily imagine a scum you forgetting the exact role of your buddy or infact your own role.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:43 am
by teacher
In post 3389, bob3141 wrote:The only reason that any one could give is damage limitation to avoid a flash lynch hitting a town pr. And at the point you swapped your read there was still a few days to deadline
False, again. The quoted vote was appr 16 hours to deadline. Are you now just trying to get Mena to defend you with the why tell such easily verifiable lies?
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:47 am
by teacher
In post 2981, bob3141 wrote:Last scum game his team had a rolestopper. So doubt he wouldnt know the difference
This is where you straight up lie about the past games. I have never, ever played with rolestopper. So why should I know what it does?
I have absolutely played with roleblocker, and know what it does. Stopper and blocker have similar meanings outside mafia, yea? So why shouldn’t they be two words that mean the same thing?
here i corrected it straight away. How is that lie. When quite quickly i typed a correction that i had wrote the wrong word. In quick fire post during my meta dive of your scum pts.
In post 2981, bob3141 wrote:Last scum game his team had a rolestopper. So doubt he wouldnt know the difference
This is where you straight up lie about the past games. I have never, ever played with rolestopper. So why should I know what it does?
I have absolutely played with roleblocker, and know what it does. Stopper and blocker have similar meanings outside mafia, yea? So why shouldn’t they be two words that mean the same thing?
you see there is a little thing called a description. Don't you think the first thing any player does is to check.
As you say you know what a roleblocker does. SO you know for sure that the role that you claim scum have is. IS not a roleblocker.
It simply doesn't fly, you not knowing rolestopper does when it takes 10 seconds to search it. Mafiasucm rolstopper in google and what do i find in 10 secs
As i said it a dumb tell. Where your just trying to play dumb. When there is no way I can believe that someone who joins newbies as SE doesnt know common roles.
In post 3389, bob3141 wrote:The only reason that any one could give is damage limitation to avoid a flash lynch hitting a town pr. And at the point you swapped your read there was still a few days to deadline
False, again. The quoted vote was appr 16 hours to deadline. Are you now just trying to get Mena to defend you with the why tell such easily verifiable lies?
Now stop being childish. You know when some is scum, its when all they can come back with is "oh no your lying"
few definitions.
1.
a small number of.
"may I ask a few questions?"
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2.
used to emphasize how small a number of people or things is.
"he had few friends"
It doesnt matter if day one ends mid day. Its still 1-2 days
He choose to vote IV, He choose not to push for any alternative lynch. He didnt say oh at worst IV is VT. He said oh now i think he is scum. He didnt say im voting to avoid no lynch. Which we were still a fair bit from
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:08 am
by bob3141
And who would think scum would still be self voting 1-2 days away from deadline. When they could simply vote osuka and claim that although he though osuka had good chance of flipping town. He knows for sure he is town.
Only a yogurt
And it wasnt at the time that the lynch was 100% decided. So again still pleanty of time on the clock
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:12 am
by bob3141
Instead NDmath does a second U turn and votes IV with conviction. When in reality any townie should hvae views IV as absolutely terrible lynch. That only value is that its not going to hit town pr. Town never happy jumps for such a lynch. They go into it with no confidance that they will hit scum. and that they will heavily regret it. On the other hand scum always try and make excuses.