Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[Amy Dunne]

I think I’d be more willing to experiment with mutations over cross game pr usage. Cross game pr usage is where doubles mafia fell apart, after all.

/pre-in

+1

/pre-in

[Amy Dunne]

Vengeful ghosts was painful

Games are usually painful when town doesn’t think. That’s been my experience anyway but it still was a cool setup regardless.

[Jingle]

I think I’d be more willing to experiment with mutations over cross game pr usage. Cross game pr usage is where doubles mafia fell apart, after all.

/pre-in

I think I’d be more willing to experiment with mutations over cross game pr usage. Cross game pr usage is where doubles mafia fell apart, after all.

/pre-in

+1

/pre-in

Can't promise I'll honor pre-ins for a game I have no idea if I'll even design, let alone run, but assuming it's soon enough that I even remember this I'll send you PMs to make sure you're still interested for sure. Probably wont be anytime soon though, multigame setups aren't the easiest to mod.

[Jingle]

I hope you do that nightmare game again, that one seemed really fun. I don’t mind mech complex setups, I just hate roles that that can guilty/inno a player merely for voting. I feel WA undermines play as an important factor.

I think that there's a disconnect between what I mean with mechanically complex and what you mean with mechanically complex here. I'm specifically referring to games with a heavy emphasis on nightplay over dayplay and unraveling the mess of actions involved in the game.

I'm not entirely sure what I'd do with Your Nightmare to build on it, but it might be worth a revisit. I'll keep that in the back of my head and see if any setups jump out as compatible.

[Taly]

*hugs Amy because it's fun *

[Radical Rat]

I don’t necessarily hate mechanically complex setups

The wagon role is exactly what I mean by mechanically complex. Things like bus drivers, extra communications, my conspiracies game with an SK/maf godfather traitor combo, games with thieves… basically the games that require a lot of legwork to understand or are virtually impossible to understand prior to endgame.

Comparatively, you enjoy my mutation setups which are fairly straightforward but twisting, like vengeful ghosts with a dead thread that could vig shoot or the game where the scum wincon was that their night kill was actually an escape from danger.

I hope you do that nightmare game again, that one seemed really fun. I don’t mind mech complex setups, I just hate roles that that can guilty/inno a player merely for voting. I feel WA undermines play as an important factor.

As opposed to more normal roles that guilty you for existing? Voting is absolutely part of play, and can be avoided or manipulated accordingly

[RCEnigma]

We just didn't know how to play around it. Despite knowing it existed.

[RCEnigma]

The UB was the part that felt demoralizing because like, we sort of honed in on the role belonging to cheeky from n1 onward AND hit a bulletproof AND thought survivor existed AND was town siding. So it seemed like our corner was smaller than it was.

But also town gonna town so there's that.

[CheekyTeeky]

multigame setups aren't the easiest to mod.

Don't be so mod-ist, you make them look easy ^.^

[Amy Dunne]

*hugs Amy because it's fun *

<3

[Amy Dunne]

I don’t necessarily hate mechanically complex setups

The wagon role is exactly what I mean by mechanically complex. Things like bus drivers, extra communications, my conspiracies game with an SK/maf godfather traitor combo, games with thieves… basically the games that require a lot of legwork to understand or are virtually impossible to understand prior to endgame.

Comparatively, you enjoy my mutation setups which are fairly straightforward but twisting, like vengeful ghosts with a dead thread that could vig shoot or the game where the scum wincon was that their night kill was actually an escape from danger.

I hope you do that nightmare game again, that one seemed really fun. I don’t mind mech complex setups, I just hate roles that that can guilty/inno a player merely for voting. I feel WA undermines play as an important factor.

As opposed to more normal roles that guilty you for existing? Voting is absolutely part of play, and can be avoided or manipulated accordingly

Hard disagree but I honestly don’t know how to make my point any clearer.

[Amy Dunne]

multigame setups aren't the easiest to mod.

Don't be so mod-ist, you make them look easy ^.^

lol

mod-ist

but yeah definitely true.

[lilith2013]