A little more clarification would be nice. My main thing right now, was PN actually ignorant of things? Like his Role PM, my having a PR, etc.? My having a PR is a big one, wouldn't his scum mates let him know that,
if
he was scum? What is your opinion of PN if you don't like his wagon? It
almost
sounds like a Town read, but I'd like to know for sure.
What parts of his wagon are bad? What premise are you disagreeing with? I have you as pretty solid Town, so you can be sure I'll consider what you're seeing seriously.
Are you willing to vote Xayzeck or Jordan?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:55 am
by jon_h61
↑jon_h61 wrote:Are you willing to vote Xayzeck or Jordan?
A little more clarification would be nice. My main thing right now, was PN actually ignorant of things? Like his Role PM, my having a PR, etc.? My having a PR is a big one, wouldn't his scum mates let him know that,
if
he was scum? What is your opinion of PN if you don't like his wagon? It
almost
sounds like a Town read, but I'd like to know for sure.
What parts of his wagon are bad? What premise are you disagreeing with? I have you as pretty solid Town, so you can be sure I'll consider what you're seeing seriously.
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:I've been trying to get a xay wagon for forever and a half, but yes, the wagon on you, PN, has plenty of validity or I wouldn't be voting you. Though to be fair I am voting you more for recent reactions than anything else.
I too am surprised I haven't been lynched for not really doing anything
I'm a bad person but this post ALONE makes me want to lynch him, but I feel like we have as much chance lynching scum/sk as we do lynching town/vig here. The other thing that kills me on the xay front is the lack of a vote along with lack of other activity. Yes that goes for saki and rach as well, but xay been here and posted and still isn't doing anything. Isn't pushing anything. Isn't using his vote. Which indicates to me day activity isn't important to him this game.
I'll consult with jingle about this.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:36 am
by Xayzeck
apathy
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:41 am
by Xayzeck
basically i don't think Jordan is scum
I haven't slotted PN
but I don't feel convinced on PNscum. I would vote him just to get him at L-1 because that would help with content, but I wouldn't be able to substantiate it. I would be voting ONLY BECAUSE he's the biggest wagon, and does that help town? I dunno, maybe? But only because they are willing to generate that content, I'm just the blind sheep.
I'd rather I picked up my game now, but right now I have nothing to pick up on. I don't have the time right now to read the previous pages, and they all process as clutter to me.
To be honest, I was ready to just selfvote on D3 and just get my lynch over with. I don't want to be near endgame, I'm a pretty big liability to town.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:42 am
by Xayzeck
↑Jordan_Downey wrote:I'm a bad person but this post ALONE makes me want to lynch him, but I feel like we have as much chance lynching scum/sk as we do lynching town/vig here.
then just do it
why are you contemplating this?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:42 am
by Xayzeck
I fail to see why the town has such a huge preference to a PN lynch to my lynch
what exactly has he done that is so astronomically scummy that you've just ignored me, and i've pretty much active lurked this game after TSO died
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:43 am
by Xayzeck
either like PN is really obvscum
or scum are just keeping me around because I'm easiest for lylo, yet nobody cares enough about me to rope me right now
↑Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:okay things are getting narrower. 3 scum down 2 to 3 left?
I do not think Saki, or PV are scum at all.
I still think Jordan's claim is full of kaka and they never outlined anything further on their "plan."
I have to stick with my day one probing of Necro and stay with town there... she could be faking things as scum though.
This leave PN, TD, Jon, xaym and Rach and I could run any of those up. I don't have time to sort anything out.
I thought the early pressure on xay was a mistake and coulda been wrong. I want to see what others say right now and don't have time to really look at much else right now.
Posting right after waking up isn't my strongest suit. I remembered yesterday I'd read through your ISO, all two pages, and decided you were Town only behind Peregrine. I didn't remember every reason why, and I refuse to try to keep notes in a large. It sometimes leads me to derp post, but if I tried to keep notes, I'd be at it all day, and as often as my reads have changed, I'd probably be in worse shape than I'm in now.
My choices for votes, hi to low, Xayzeck, Jordan, then PN. With Rach somewhere in there. I'm willing to bet both Xay and Rach flip scum. My gut says so.
pedit @ Xayzeck That's a good question, I've been asking for your lynch for a while. So, why the active lurking, then? You admit it makes you look like scum. If you're Town, shouldn't you be helping
us
out? Instead of asking us why, shouldn't you be giving us
your
opinion of these things?
ppedit Maybe? Or is this what you want us to believe?
pppedit Stop ninjaing me!
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:53 am
by jon_h61
@ Xayzeck You've been reading along, and posting pretty regularly. Surely you have some suspicions?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:01 am
by Xayzeck
↑jon_h61 wrote:@ Xayzeck You've been reading along, and posting pretty regularly. Surely you have some suspicions?
i've been skimming along, yes.
have i been reading critically and trying to slot people? not really
except i know that jordan claimed
and heads of jordan are not idiots, and probably have discussed enough that, if scum, would realise polarity locker is pretty antitown, and wouldn't have claimed, or made such a big deal of their PR to get everyone to claim polarity changes
unless you think otherwise?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:04 am
by Perpetual Nonsense
↑jon_h61 wrote:No, I'm not soft claiming being a PR. But I did receive a PR, if that helps.
Oh, like an inventor gave you something! Cool. that doesn't clear you.
↑DrippingGoofball wrote:Perpetual Nonsense is still not looking for scum.
I'm looking. I may not be looking at who you're looking at, but that's not the point.
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:Though to be fair I am voting you more for recent reactions than anything else.
but I don't feel convinced on PNscum. I would vote him just to get him at L-1 because that would help with content, but I wouldn't be able to substantiate it. I would be voting ONLY BECAUSE he's the biggest wagon, and does that help town? I dunno, maybe? But only because they are willing to generate that content, I'm just the blind sheep.
Xay, if you're town, please stop posturing. It's going to make you look even more lynchable tomorrow once the accusations of "you avoided the PN wagon and stayed off without a clear stance" come out. You know they will.
my big scumread is Jon and I Don't know how many other scum are left.
I think there's one scum in <Jordan, Jon>. I think it's Jon.
My instinct is to say the last scum (if there are 5 or whatever - well if there's an SK, good luck) is in the near-universal townreads. Look really closely at Tiphaine Death, please. We may not have paid good attention to the game, but we agree that something about them seems off.
So, closing reads:
<Jon, TiphaineDeath>
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:10 am
by Perpetual Nonsense
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:Thor, I haven't thought you're scum this game at all, you were displaying sk-ish tendencies that along with your level of play and current game state made me suspect you a bit, however nothing you've done remotely pings as scum to me, and since I think I have a bead on the actual SK voting you as SK would be silly.
Make sense?
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:I'm not voting you, I don't think you're scum, I don't even think you're the SK, chillax mr. smurf.
Thor, you look like the SK because you've been going with the flow and no so much arguing multiple wagons all game as being happy to be on multiple wagons.
The only strike against you I can see other than that is that you are alive. Honestly the only reason I'm not voting you right now is because I'm pretty sure I know who the SK is, I'm just not going to get a lynch on them today so it's not worth outing just yet.
You just told me Thor was obvtown. This doesn't match, sorry.
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:Are you kidding me? Thor is a very good player, and I had a strong townread on him, I rather assumed he'd talk his way out of it. Da herp, le derp.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:11 am
by Perpetual Nonsense
↑TiphaineDeath wrote:There was no way in my mind thor was actually going to get lynched, right up until scum derphammered him. He was obv town to me, and seemed likely to be a power role as well. I decided my wifom mattered more than him getting outed.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:35 am
by TiphaineDeath
I've had this argument before, even this bloody game. SK tells and Scum tells are very different. Thor was most definitely not scum, he was exhibiting things that made me think he could be the SK. Most of the people on thors wagon were voting him as scum, in fact as far as I can tell few people have been bothering to look for an SK this whole fucking game.
I even had this argument with thor while he was alive, I'm not really sure how many times I can repeat the same thing or why it's so hard to understand. Maybe if I translate it in to some form of seusian limeric for you....
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:07 am
by jon_h61
↑Perpetual Nonsense wrote:Oh, like an inventor gave you something! Cool. that doesn't clear you.
No. My slot was born with it. My predecessor had the same role too. Alas, they never had a chance to use it. I wonder what the differences would be if they'd had a chance to use it.