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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:45 am
by RadiantCowbells
i should have tried to come in as a neutral party representing the nrg as opposed to my feeling son this as a player but there's a lot i didn't like.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:46 am
by Ankamius
I find it insane that we had two lynches, one of which was scum before town lost
But ngl I also have the impression that town horribly misplayed the power that was there so
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:46 am
by RadiantCowbells
like i've kinda tainted the pool by coming in saying it was awful. zzz
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:46 am
by RadiantCowbells
i don't think normal games should be predominantly decided by usage of town power.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:47 am
by Ankamius
In post 3391, Not Known 15 wrote: In post 3366, Something_Smart wrote:RCE's role doesn't matter 53/54 of the time, and neighborhoods don't really affect balance at all especially when scum is in them.
Traitor- scum, however. Your statement on RCE's role is incorrect. The traitor being in the selection with them and the cop meant they came all under heavy fire; making the survival of the traitor unlikely, and town really failed to catch even one mafia from the traitor flip. You are omitting two high powers, though.
1. Aurathebirb (they forgot this shame on them) originally knew (due to informed) that Mafia had a traitor and consisted of 4 scum.
2. Vorkuta, the Vig, had a powerful information: They could not be stopped from killing Mafia. That meant that any N3+ protective without Loyal, and any N3+roleblocker without disloyal
was a fakeclaim
. And the Macho IC and the info about the N1 Neighbor cop(as cop) were designed to lessen the possibility of them being killed early.
These powers were not used this time.
This is why I said a bit scumsided and not alot.
My primary feedback for you is that the role pms really were not easy to read, it took me like 30 seconds to understand the babysitter role with all the different modifiers solely from how it was formatted.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:48 am
by Creature
It still contained atleast one VT and normal roles. Just the balance was bad, but like a lot of normals are like that.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:50 am
by Ankamius
Aura never coming in and revealing her info, and even later asking what informed was meant that we believed morality was the source of the town being informed of 4 scum. The problem is... I can't really be sure that she even did realize she had that info because of the aforementioned formatting.
If that mishap hadn't happened, I strongly believe that I would have played the game differently than I did.
I only pushed sorting the SS vs morality thing until later because of that tidbit
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:51 am
by RadiantCowbells
normal games shouldn't be based off of informed roles sharing info, modclearing a bunch of slots based on another informed slot, etc. in my opinion.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:59 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 3379, RadiantCowbells wrote:???
"against rc"?
the mod modkilled obvtown when i had both of you caught how arrogant and stupid do you have to be to claim a win against me when the game was 4v9 and you only won due to a modkill
To be fair, we played in a way where we were totally fine having you scum read us.
We were going for you the day DDL was modkilled. DDL was my biggest support. You replacing our nearly compromised the game.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:59 am
by Ankamius
I was thinking the setup was based around access and unaccess to information, RC.
That's why I was thinking that Morality was mechanically scum after aura's flip and why I was thinking that the traitor was probably the only mafia in the neighborhood.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:00 am
by RadiantCowbells
you do not actually believe that the modkill and ensuing replace outs benefited town rather than scum.
if you want to claim that to save face publicly feel free to.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:02 am
by Flavor Leaf
We lost the Shoshin mislynch. We were playing to the players not the conf town due to replacement.
This game got 10 times harder as soon as you two replaced out.
The mod kill did help scum more, but the replace outs that it ensued, when it was actually a solid call, while upsetting, wasn’t.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:03 am
by RadiantCowbells
there's no shoshin mislynch when your entire scumteam gets consecutively lynched.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:03 am
by RadiantCowbells
the only possible mislynch was going to not get lynched due to claim. you guys were done before the modkill happened.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:05 am
by Flavor Leaf
How?
I was never getting lynched, and you already had a pretty deep wagon going on you.
Had 2 more people voted you, we’d have gotten you, and then Shoshin the next day.
However, I do agree, 9:4 is bleh.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:06 am
by RadiantCowbells
if it makes you feel better to claim that you think you could have mislynched you there feel free to do so.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:07 am
by Flavor Leaf
And that was our mislynch pool for Day 2, afterwards the pool changes.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:07 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3377, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I mean, to be fair, it was a fake claim.
SOMETHING SMART!!! I DID IT!!! I won a page 1 Miller fake claim and got past a guilty!!!
I'm glad you did it, but it doesn't really count for much because you were dodgy about it early on and also it was obviously bullshit
I did think you were ascetic for a while, hence the claim, but I eventually changed my mind but not the opinion that you were scum, so I kept it.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:08 am
by RadiantCowbells
i'll give you a hint
boats n hoes would have been lynched d2
you would have been lynched d3
vedith slot who knows how long it lasts tbh
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:08 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 3415, RadiantCowbells wrote:if it makes you feel better to claim that you think you could have mislynched you there feel free to do so.
It’s not a matter if I feel if it were to happen, it just was a likely possibility. Had Vedith slot voted you, that was essentially you getting lynched, because we would’ve only needed 1 more to just end the day with you.
We were also setting up a positioning for Day 2.
We have about 28 pages in the mafia thread. We weren’t unprepared
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:09 am
by RadiantCowbells
you can have literally infintie pages.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:09 am
by Ankamius
Vedith slot was me RC
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:09 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3401, Ankamius wrote:I find it insane that we had two lynches, one of which was scum before town lost
But ngl I also have the impression that town horribly misplayed the power that was there so
I'm pretty sure I played my imaginary PR better than most people played their real one...
But even if people played their PR's right, there wouldn't have been nearly enough power to balance 9:4.
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:10 am
by RadiantCowbells
Which slot was STK?
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:10 am
by RadiantCowbells
ok
yellowsnow would have been the slot that lasted a while.