Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)

[Raven Branwen]

I already solved this game

UNVOTE:

So, you think I should vote NK15? Explain why PB is town and NK15 scum?

You’re wrong on me but you will find that out.

I wish you people hadn’t mislynched Creature. He might have solved this game for us. :/

[TrueSoulEnergy]

The bummer is that I think I'm very obviously town by mechanics and play, but both ABR and Ame are town and chill, so they should win this

I agree with everything but the part about Ame solving this. Watch him wagon Titus tomorrow. It won’t shock me in the slightest.

Youre derailing the game with your endless blaming. Shut up about it. Move on.

Why is PB town?

They are derailing the game because they are

Scum.

[Raven Branwen]

I'm fine with being the lynch today 'cause I can't vengekill anyone so scum will be forced to take decisions. I actually think it's the right path if I'm eventually be a mislynch to make it today rather than later.

I still have one bard shot and I can use it now, I don't know if it would go through but it should. Who should I bard?

PB is clearly town.
Anyways yeah believe me or not but Raven is last scum.

And when game doesn’t end and it 100% won’t with my lynch, what will you say then Sherlock?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Ame, you said your upgrade was at two xp. But what was that upgrade, actually? The treestump-kill?

I’d be willing to switch vote to this because to be fair, Raven did say “the kill could be to frame Alisae”
And this post is exactly is what’s happening.

[Raven Branwen]

The bummer is that I think I'm very obviously town by mechanics and play, but both ABR and Ame are town and chill, so they should win this

I agree with everything but the part about Ame solving this. Watch him wagon Titus tomorrow. It won’t shock me in the slightest.

Youre derailing the game with your endless blaming. Shut up about it. Move on.

Why is PB town?

They are derailing the game because they are

Scum.

You thought obvscum SK Alch was locktown in Post-Appoocalypse, so your reads aren’t good.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I already solved this game

UNVOTE:

So, you think I should vote NK15? Explain why PB is town and NK15 scum?

You’re wrong on me but you will find that out.

I mean if your town and we lynch NK15 the game would end and we would win.

Fine I’ll bite.
VOTE: NK15
But if this isn’t scum, I’m death tunneling you.

[Raven Branwen]

Ame, you said your upgrade was at two xp. But what was that upgrade, actually? The treestump-kill?

I’d be willing to switch vote to this because to be fair, Raven did say “the kill could be to frame Alisae”
And this post is exactly is what’s happening.

Yes, because I’ve literally seen that in two games now, where the sole vote on the NK was framed, which is one of the reasons I doubt Alisae is scum here.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

So scum didn’t no kill then.

I didn't protect anyone though

Wait Raven what was their interaction with you and creature?

[Raven Branwen]

I already solved this game

UNVOTE:

So, you think I should vote NK15? Explain why PB is town and NK15 scum?

You’re wrong on me but you will find that out.

I mean if your town and we lynch NK15 the game would end and we would win.

Fine I’ll bite.
VOTE: NK15
But if this isn’t scum, I’m death tunneling you.

It’s not me but if you’re right on PB, I’m glad I unvoted. This is why I didn’t want the responsibility of venging, because I’m not sure.

[Raven Branwen]

So scum didn’t no kill then.

I didn't protect anyone though

Wait Raven what was their interaction with you and creature?

What was who’s? Okay, I think you’re town now, so that helps. I thought Creature had stopped the NK when I made that post but the likelier explanation was that scum didn’t have XP but PB says that Creature actually did stop it. I’m no mech expert, so I’m still confused on this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

indecisive yet so ready to blame others for their mistakes. Quit projecting.

[Raven Branwen]

indecisive yet so ready to blame others for their mistakes. Quit projecting.

Are you quite done yet shitting on me? Yeah, I think it’s far better to be indecisive than driving a lynch on blreding obvtown like Creature clearly was.

You’re convinced it’s PB and TSE is convinced it’s NK15, so sue me for not being sure.

[Raven Branwen]

We do know that scum do not have fakeclaims, so PB’s role sounds townie to me.

[Raven Branwen]

I see some votes on spring and I think they come mostly because of playstyle rather than an actual scumread

I'm aware of Hectic being more serious than I'm used to, but that seems to be because of spring putting him on the spot rather than an alignment thing. It's a new angle for me.

No I don't think it's AI for spring, that's what I meant

@PB why is spring not reevaluating his thoughs? He got quite solid feedback from people but instead of doubt he persist even more.

This is what I mean by PB dissociatives.

~ker

PB doesn’t sound like a Farkset buddy here.

[Raven Branwen]

I see some votes on spring and I think they come mostly because of playstyle rather than an actual scumread

I'm aware of Hectic being more serious than I'm used to, but that seems to be because of spring putting him on the spot rather than an alignment thing. It's a new angle for me.

No I don't think it's AI for spring, that's what I meant

@PB why is spring not reevaluating his thoughs? He got quite solid feedback from people but instead of doubt he persist even more.

~ker

PB doesn’t sound like a Farkset buddy here.

This is what I mean by PB dissociatives.

I said that obviously not Kerset.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I see some votes on spring and I think they come mostly because of playstyle rather than an actual scumread

I'm aware of Hectic being more serious than I'm used to, but that seems to be because of spring putting him on the spot rather than an alignment thing. It's a new angle for me.

No I don't think it's AI for spring, that's what I meant

@PB why is spring not reevaluating his thoughs? He got quite solid feedback from people but instead of doubt he persist even more.

This is what I mean by PB dissociatives.

~ker

PB doesn’t sound like a Farkset buddy here.

I disagree. Scum theater.

[Titus]

I see some votes on spring and I think they come mostly because of playstyle rather than an actual scumread

I'm aware of Hectic being more serious than I'm used to, but that seems to be because of spring putting him on the spot rather than an alignment thing. It's a new angle for me.

No I don't think it's AI for spring, that's what I meant

@PB why is spring not reevaluating his thoughs? He got quite solid feedback from people but instead of doubt he persist even more.

This is what I mean by PB dissociatives.

~ker

PB doesn’t sound like a Farkset buddy here.

I disagree. Scum theater.

ABR, what would it take for you to finally listen to us on NK15 if you're town?

[Pink Ball]

The bummer is that I think I'm very obviously town by mechanics and play, but both ABR and Ame are town and chill, so they should win this

Why do you think you were town? Can you explain all your townreads?

First of, because of how Farkset died. Ame hasn't fully claimed so we don't really know how they died. We know it was because of Ame, but not how. Scum can't really know that either, so I think they're paranoid about him and that's why they haven't killed him, 'cause there's a chance Farkset targeted Ame on N1 and they think that Ame treestumps scum as a passive.

I barded Ame right after Farkset died 'cause I didn't think of this until later; Ame never told not to bard him so that's why I'm assuming that Ame is not a PGO (in this case treestumping instead of killing). My point is, I lack the information that scum could have, 'cause if I had it, I would've not barded Ame right away because of paranoia.

I also happened to get Knight lynched. It doesn't matter if he was obvscum or not (I don't think that's true), but I was the main factor into derailing Alisae's lynch and making Knight the lynch during that day. I'm more of the philosophy of having as much scum members alive to win together rather than bussing unless completely necessary as scum, and in this case I don't think it was really needed. I could've just shut up and follow louder voices.

I followed last day's plan by barding Raya, which I think is what got him killed and that's good for having a better PoE. If I were scum, I would've killed Raya but not barded him, why would I use one of my shots on him when I can restrain it for a better purpose? Also, I did two night actions last night: bard Raya (confirmed) and train, leaving me with 1 XP. If you want to, I can bard today and leave me without XP; if there's a nightkill, then I become conftown.

Basically, my play is pretty much solid town, and the paranoia towards my slot is rather unreasonable. From Ame I get it, 'cause he could feel pocketed and because of a wrong PoE, but from you it feels like you went for the "you guys suck, I know who the remaining scum is... and you won't believe who they are, but I'm so good I caught them!!" road and it matches with your personality. What I mean is, you want me to be scum to be the only one who realized this, instead of going for the obvious path that is me being town.

[Pink Ball]

I'm fine with being the lynch today 'cause I can't vengekill anyone so scum will be forced to take decisions. I actually think it's the right path if I'm eventually be a mislynch to make it today rather than later.

I still have one bard shot and I can use it now, I don't know if it would go through but it should. Who should I bard?

The bummer is that I think I'm very obviously town by mechanics and play, but both ABR and Ame are town and chill, so they should win this

Aren’t you usually more upset about being mislynched? Why are you so chill about this?

'Cause I haven't given enough attention to this game so I'm not as invested as in other games, and because we're 7v1 right now and my lynch secures that it stays 5v1 next day instead of 4v1.

PB has given up its 7v1. Not worth fighting hard every day for weeks and weeks only to lose in the end.

You clearly don't know me. I would be invested as fuck on winning this if I were the remaining scum. I love being scum and when the game's hard, even better

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's convincing, but what does barding do?

Whats your upgraded abilities?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Raven, does PB deserve all the credit for knightmares lynch?

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, what would it take for you to finally listen to us on NK15 if you're town?

If you write a decent case that isn't "my VCA"

[Albert B. Rampage]

theres too much info in this game and I need you all to help me solve this.

[Titus]

ABR, what would it take for you to finally listen to us on NK15 if you're town?

If you write a decent case that isn't "my VCA"

Define what would make a "decent case". I am not going to put in the work to case someone if you're just going to plug your ears and claim to be a better player.

[Pink Ball]

That's convincing, but what does barding do?

Whats your upgraded abilities?

Barding is giving my target the chance to perform twice during the next night: they can use their ability and train at the same time, for example. The upgrade gives me the chance to perform twice when I bard someone too. Takes me 1XP to bard, so I've trained twice when barded Ame and Raya, I think that's what how my role was supposed to be played. And of course, try not to bard scum 'cause I give them the chance to perform a kill and train at the same time.