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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:01 pm
by Alisae
In post 3397, Cabd wrote:Wait for the morphheads to get their catnaps, and then yeah, we'll act tonight and get on with it.
what does it look like is being voted so far.

I just woke up and I saw DS's iso dive to bulge being icky and bulge's response also being a bit icky.
I think my top pick atm is Gamma

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:04 pm
by Alisae
do we actually just hate bulge's content?
because I'm a sucker for it tbh

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:04 pm
by Cabd
I think my personal pool today is {Gamma, Midway} for the elim. Then shooting pool is depending heavily on those flips and other thoughts I won't get into here.


But spayhalf has Thoughts and Thoughts are to be loved and cherished and respected.


Want to hear opinions form the other ya-yas, and from your lover.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:08 pm
by Alisae
Consider me on Gamma then

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:11 pm
by Alisae
In post 3322, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3279, fferyllt wrote:Hm, I lost my final point in 3276

Contrast the below with
In post 3226, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Tammy DS is trying to destroy the idea that cabd is conftown but doesn’t want to put himself in a position to 1v1 cabd rn as that’s probably a losing battle.
Generally I see this kind of behavior on a less dramatic level where the scum just try to gaslight the conftown.
This is a much bolder move that speaks of scum desperation.
It's like Gamma inadvertently described his own response to Alisae in the earlier post as something akin to gaslighting the conftown.
I'm more trying to figure out why Ali's teamguess has locked onto the players I feel the strongest about being town apart from clears, because I would definitely rather work with em than against em. I can see how that looks like gaslighting but it's really not. I'm just trying to understand Alisae's perspective so I can present mine and figure out how best to solve the game considering each. But later posting has shown that it might be a futile endeavor anyway because when Alisae gets into that type of confidence I mentioned earlier it's
nigh impossible
to talk em out of it. So I'm at a point where I'm at least trying to help Alisae play better in future games because I don't know if I'm gonna be able to have meaningful interactions with em much longer.
You, Bell, and Peta are acting upon very similar reads in a way that I feel like a scumteam would.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:12 pm
by Alisae
if ur town your townflip is also very helpful because it means I should in fact consider one of Bulge and DS.
You just seemed like you wanted to kill both of them regardless and that irks me

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:18 pm
by petapan
In post 3401, Alisae wrote:do we actually just hate bulge's content?
because I'm a sucker for it tbh
its bad and his response to me is basically outing

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:21 pm
by Alisae
In post 3406, petapan wrote:
In post 3401, Alisae wrote:do we actually just hate bulge's content?
because I'm a sucker for it tbh
its bad and his response to me is basically outing
how is ti outing

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:23 pm
by Bell
@alisae why can’t we just have similar reads?
Though right now that’s absolutely not the case.

I think the only reads we agree on right now is mild scum read on mwb and mild town lean on SD?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:24 pm
by Cabd
In post 3407, Alisae wrote:how is ti outing
Spoiler: shitposting
Texas Instruments made the TI-89 Titanium to basically enable cheating on tests. The built in solve for X and coding functions combined with ways to bypass the cache clearing rules on standardized testing is really scummy. (Even if they are expensive as fuck) So of course TI is outing.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:30 pm
by petapan
In post 3407, Alisae wrote:
In post 3406, petapan wrote:
In post 3401, Alisae wrote:do we actually just hate bulge's content?
because I'm a sucker for it tbh
its bad and his response to me is basically outing
how is ti outing
you know the thing i said earlier with pooky being suspicious of me was town indicative for him (before you guys outed)

here it's the opposite. i'm going all out attack on him trying to hijack the day and get him voted. he just brushes me off as "genuine but a little misguided". it's an unnatural perspective to have when i'd have every reason as scum to push him here, and i snowed him in that marathon game with pooky. he should have every reason to be cautious when i'm baying for his blood and yet it's not there

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:38 pm
by Alisae
What happens if his stance on you is that he's sus of you instead of "Genuine but a little misguided"

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:41 pm
by petapan
then the response would make more sense? it doesn't feel like he's actually been trying to read me. it gives a different vibe from the other people i've been poking at this game.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:43 pm
by Alisae
How is it different from someone else in the playerlist

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:47 pm
by petapan
bell got very omgussy and had a list of grievances with me (and granted, he's been really weird about it at times, but still makes -more- sense to me)
cakez fielded my questions calmly but tried to ak how to read me while i was grilling him

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:51 pm
by Alisae
I thought you and Bell were at each others throats?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:58 pm
by petapan
for a while. now he'd be, like, my begrudging compromise vote mainly because other people want him dead? but now he'd be below bulge and gamma. i said last night i'm "wimping out" on him

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:58 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3383, midwaybear wrote:
In post 3381, Gamma Emerald wrote:That's not a way to win as town. In any game, ever.
Do you think I'm town?
I find you scummy but I also feel like if you're town there's more can be doing to both make it clear and help solve the game, potentially doing both at once.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:00 pm
by petapan
also because the way bulge's read on bell progressed was fucking gross

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:01 pm
by Alisae
In post 3418, petapan wrote:also because the way bulge's read on bell progressed was fucking gross
draw it out for me

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:09 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3401, Alisae wrote:do we actually just hate bulge's content?
because I'm a sucker for it tbh
Do you actually like Bulge's content or is this a love-to-hate thing

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:10 pm
by Alisae
I think its generally fine

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:10 pm
by petapan
In post 2679, The Bulge wrote:
In post 2485, Bell wrote:Conftown: Cabd, Jake, Tammy, FF, SS, Alisae, Pooky.
Town reads: Cakez.
LT: Gamma.
Can die pool: Bulge, Nahdia, DS, Peta.


Isn't this game already locked?
idk what to say about this post rn but like when are we yeeting bell?
this is basically the first time he ever makes a statement about bell
In post 2740, The Bulge wrote:as for the bell thing, i have reasons for scumreading him outside of that singular post of his which I haven't gotten to yet. this is also something I thought was quite clear.
this is in response to me when i take issue with that statement
In post 2806, The Bulge wrote:
In post 2778, Bell wrote:
In post 2738, The Bulge wrote:
In post 2712, Bell wrote:#2679: Where'd the old Bulge go?
In post 2713, Bell wrote:You usually latch unto one person, what changed here?
im playing from behind baby, I want all the smoke
I’ve read all of your games on site I think. This is new, try again.
oh THAT old bulge. eh, I like to think I approach basically everything in life different from when I was 17-19. honestly you are in a better position than I am to judge whether young bulge meta holds up today, I seriously don't remember shit from my old games.
In post 2779, Bell wrote:You’re almost always playing from behind, that makes no sense.
except this. I do remember this. this position I'm in is a familiar one, but not since I came back. not to this extent. and like I said, I probably just deal with things like pressure and commitment better now than I did in high school.
In post 2817, The Bulge wrote:
In post 2814, Bell wrote:I feel like that isn’t true though bulge you’ve not been super active ever from what I’ve seen. But I also don’t think you’re inactive enough to be impossible to read so I don’t think you should feel guilty about it.
I don't post a lot, and old habits die hard, but I stay caught up. the lurker's guilty conscience is what got me miselimmed a bunch in my early days. my recent bout of especially low activity was a pretty harrowing reminder of exactly what I don't want to let my play come to but I'm feeling a second wind more lately
but the way he talks to bell here isn't how someone normally talks to someone they're scumreading
In post 3266, The Bulge wrote:Bell has been off this game but I wonder if he would be under as much scrutiny if he were playing, say, on an anonymous alt. I did iso bell already, and I can't find a lot that points to scum. just not a lot that points to town i'm afraid. I feel like this elim will either happen or not happen eventually regardless of my stance so I'm not gonna focus on it as much as I thought I might
and then, suddenly this, after cabd is voting Bell and trying to get that wagon going. he's thrown some bulllshitty responses my way trying to justify this but to claim he had "reasons for scumreading him outside of that singular post" and then not come up with jack shit is just completely implausible

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:13 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3404, Alisae wrote:
In post 3322, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3279, fferyllt wrote:Hm, I lost my final point in 3276

Contrast the below with
In post 3226, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Tammy DS is trying to destroy the idea that cabd is conftown but doesn’t want to put himself in a position to 1v1 cabd rn as that’s probably a losing battle.
Generally I see this kind of behavior on a less dramatic level where the scum just try to gaslight the conftown.
This is a much bolder move that speaks of scum desperation.
It's like Gamma inadvertently described his own response to Alisae in the earlier post as something akin to gaslighting the conftown.
I'm more trying to figure out why Ali's teamguess has locked onto the players I feel the strongest about being town apart from clears, because I would definitely rather work with em than against em. I can see how that looks like gaslighting but it's really not. I'm just trying to understand Alisae's perspective so I can present mine and figure out how best to solve the game considering each. But later posting has shown that it might be a futile endeavor anyway because when Alisae gets into that type of confidence I mentioned earlier it's
nigh impossible
to talk em out of it. So I'm at a point where I'm at least trying to help Alisae play better in future games because I don't know if I'm gonna be able to have meaningful interactions with em much longer.
You, Bell, and Peta are acting upon very similar reads in a way that I feel like a scumteam would.
I don't feel like peta's reads resemble mine or Bell's. I can understand saying mine and Bell's look similar, but again we just seem to be cut from the same cloth.
I'm at least glad that it seems like you're not tunneled based your post after this one btw.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:15 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Though Bell seems a bit more adamant about us having different reads lol