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Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:33 pm**

Oh really fuck me now.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:47 pm**

In post 3290, Taly wrote:(VC stuff)

Ah crap was gonna comment on this but I legit am probably about to lose power.

Will update you on it soon.

But uh:

mod: V/LA due to possible power-outage

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Snow is not your friend.

A president taught you that.

Hunger is bad, games of it doubly so.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:10 pm**

In post 3290, Taly wrote:(VCA stuff)

I'll risk trying since I recognize the awkward timing of replacing in and then an immediate v/la due to power outage. Will continue to try to make content until such a time as I am literally unable to. Funnily enough, did just have a dream where time was all out of whack, involved a mismatch between what people were telling me, what my watch was telling me, and my computer clock. I slept for 11 hours last night.

But on the VCs listed: can see DGB suspicion from it, although not slam-dunk. I can see why you'd think Battle Mage is town from that, so for the moment:
UNVOTE: Battle Mage

Vote: Haschel

as a temporary replacement.

(My first job fun fact was as a referee!)

I do see Flea and MURDERCAT as quite plausibly containing at least one scum, too. And Pooky doesn't look great either.

For the record, in townreads: I think Reck's town and Taly looks town and I think SirCakez is town and I think that Titus has a fair chance of being town, and Outworlder looks town too.

My attention is divided between three or so spots right now, so thoughts are a bit uncoherent. Like, Annie is an easy matchup for Ashe imo. I loved watching Batman Beyond as a kid, too.

But, I'll try to make a readslist.

Loosely, it'd probably be something like:

Taly

Sircakez
Reck

Outworlder

Blitzo (null, no read/info)
Maestro (ditto, but lower)
Battle Mage (initial scumlean, now reconsidering)

DGB (if scum bused, was probably her)

Flea the Magician

{Pooky, Haschel, MURDERCAT} (initial suspects and rudimentary solve right now, needs refinement)

Fun fact, family is watching a Bond film about the media mogul guy. I actually don't remember it. The governor looks good, definitely mellowed out after he had his daughter Elizabeth.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:12 pm**

VoteCount 3.7

Haschel Cedricson [4]

Titus Pookythemagicalbear sircakez Mastina

Battle Mage [1]

OutworldER

Blitzo [1]

Battle Mage

Flea the magician [1]

MURDERCAT

Maestro [1]

DrippingGoofball

Not Voting [6]

Blitzo, xRECKONERx, Flea The Magician, Haschel Cedricson, Maestro, Taly

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-29 17:05:20)

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:15 pm**

Mod gave me temporary access to the PTs (24 hours). Not much in them so not much to read, but would like to say (reading Flea from N1 topic): Autism + ADHD is my thing, and makes my current task rather easy.

Brian Long, Ethan Nestor, and Mark Fischbach are my icons.

Idols of undying are an achievement I find hard in minecraft by the way.

I lowkey suspect Bell's readslist in there has scum mostly in the lower section.

Quadrants come to mind and make me think of The Matrix.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:30 pm**

I'll be back in a few hours, have an obligation to attend to.

I'm recording lines like "I have bags that are deeper than the grand canyon under my eyes.".

Reddit be where I make my presence known.

I feel Ashe is OP.

Sorry for leaving. <3

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:43 pm**

Let's rally up the Haschel wagon and move the game along then

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:14 pm**

Why am I scum now? I'm town.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:15 pm**

Not ready to 1v1

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:48 pm**

In post 3386, mastina wrote:
In post 3213, SirCakez wrote:Gamma had a strong SR on BM too...
To quote a rather notable Among Us player:
Good enough for me!
VOTE: Battle Mage.

mastina are you actually in this game to play, or just to troll me (as usual)?

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:01 pm**

looking at the early posts, I can already see evidence of faulty logic and bad faith sorting on my slot. wonderful

VOTE: maestro

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:07 pm**

In post 3309, Battle Mage wrote:2. My heart says Pooky is scum here. He just feels so distant and un-invested. Like he's got a really crap scumteam. Also 1 post in the PT last night pinged me (something about scum always wanting to bus Bell, hence Pooky town because he wanted on the wagon - which is a reasonable assertion but it came a bit out of nowhere, and from my experience Pooky is not a big busser by preference.

I can buy this.

After all, my gloves are fabulous.

I see the strings pulling and overall they lead towards a team involving {Pooky, Haschel, MURDERCAT, Flea, DGB}, but I admit I've got nothing to work with in regards to Blitzo/Maestro and if I did my opinions on them may differ.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:12 pm**

Mastina this is very disappointing

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:20 pm**

In post 3322, Blitzo wrote:
I'll be catching up in a little bit.
BM's statement in that he clarifies his vote on me as "without much fanfare" is pretty inaccurate from what I recall - his push at that time seemed extremely obtuse and he still didn't have much of a reason for it even when pressed by other players iirc. Even then it seems like his vote has nothing behind it. I'm completely lost as to how to even engage this at this point so what gives?

Though I guess "without much fanfare" also means that it's a push that he agrees is bad but still wants it anyways?
Some weird cogdis going on there and I don't like it - I also don't like how I can't engage him on anything and it seems like he's more content twisting my words than figuring me out. Alternatively maybe I'm reading into it too much but it doesn't really matter since he basically won't talk to me at all so there's that.

It seems like he's 100% tunneled on me and I'm not sure what else can really be said about it or to him at this point - if he's somehow town here this is some pretty poor play on his end.

While this post doesn't really give me any objective way of measuring Blitzo, subjectively, gun to my head I am gut-townreading this post and as it is the one and only Blitzo post I have read at this time it is the only metric I have, therefore, gut-town.

On that note, I should be crafting compasses in minecraft for maps. They're a bit expensive but lacking cartographers or librarians is a bitch.

But no worries, I'm more fascinated by mafiascum right now with theory and flavor. Gunsmiths are dope.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:33 pm**

In post 3338, Blitzo wrote:I also think my reads here are a little skewed because I still have like 4 or 5 people I want to lim but there's obviously no way they can all be mafia. I may have to reassess here and I'm not sure how to do it yet.

People are gonna need to explain to me why they're scumreading Blitzo's posts since from today's content, I'm not seeing it.

Oh and on that note, Rorschack from Watchmen is an amazing character.

In post 3340, SirCakez wrote:MC could have murdered SirCakez in Comms last night SirCakez thinks

It's definitely possible, though we don't yet have a good way to distinguish between room-kills and scum-kills from what I've gathered.

Speaking of which, villager-rushing is my favorite strat in age of empires and to a lesser extent in some civs, age of empires II.

In post 3346, MURDERCAT wrote:outworld town too

I gotta say, Murdercat's posting streak here did look scummy, but I'm not familiar enough with Murdercat to tell if it's scum-indicative since I know from experience I'm probably more inclined to scumread Murdercat even when he's town.

On that note: my favorite building material in minecraft is stone bricks. A castle is my favorite creation.

In post 3334, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am going to shamelessly sheep titus

VOTE: HC

Mesthinks that regardless of Haschel's alignment, this is a scum-indicative vote. If Haschel's town it looks like scum opportunism; if Haschel is scum, it looks like scum bussing.

Btw fun fact; to this day I say "Well that's not good" in the exact intonation of Izzy from The Mummy Returns; it left a lasting impression on my childhood.

The DVD game for Harry Potter is a part of my soul, too. To this day, I'll break out in laughter and make people think I'm crazy just by randomly remembering a rather notable exchange.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:36 pm**

lol @ TGP replacing out.
I was busy with holiday stuff today but I'll be around tomorrow.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:50 pm**

In post 3368, SirCakez wrote:possiblt a scumteam of lurkfucks again a la Xenoblade 2

Well if my theory is correct, explicitly so, yes.

A team mostly comprised of lurkers with maybe 1 active player (with said active player, if existing, probably being the sole busser on Bell), fits with Bell not having a coherent scum counterwagon and the gradual rise of said wagon that people have said happened.

Oh and by the way, I am a girl. Speaking of which, I love art, in spite of sucking at it.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:57 pm**

In post 3392, SirCakez wrote:SirCakez is impressed you ended up with pretty much the same pool as everybody else this quickly

Blame Taly for suggesting I start on the daystart page, then.

I did some rudimentary VCA based off of the scumflip at the end of D2, and the rudimentary basic-level VCA gave me a basic initial working theory. And the posts that I was exposed to immediately after that was a lot of the people making these conclusions, which influenced me and helped solidify the formed thoughts from the initial vca.

If you wanted me to form different thoughts, I'd have had to have started from a different page.

Speaking of which, Tarzan is amazing, but the only reason he'd beat George of the Jungle in a fight is because George is so nice that he'd refuse to fight in the first place. Winning with kindness is better than through force, but being genuinely strong and a natural genius in certain areas helps. Just because you're not properly educated doesn't mean you're an utter moron. Smartness comes in multiple forms.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:04 pm**

In post 3409, Battle Mage wrote:mastina are you actually in this game to play, or just to troll me (as usual)?

Trolling would be fitting given the twitch streamer that I was quoting there (he's notorious for it as generally speaking the clown of the group and I love watching him for it), but nah, I am here to play and if you did read my posts, you'd see I reconsidered that initial take.

Also, I love to jam out to disco music.

In post 3412, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Mastina this is very disappointing

Sorry.

I aim to entertain, but my comedy is not always to others' tastes.

Early Installment Weirdness is a thing.

I love browsing about superpowers, by the way.

In post 3407, MURDERCAT wrote:Why am I scum now? I'm town.

Gut + initial vca + initial reading of your posts this day phase.

But who am I kitten, I love having pun.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:16 am**

before i really get into a solvy mindset today, i do like

tgp/mastina

a lot more especially with

mastina's

entry.

she responded to my prompt in good faith and it didnt feel like she tried to appeal to me. unless she is very competent scum AND the thread is largely wrong with solves, its hard to imagine her spew not coming from town because there is concrete rationale to support her POV and it doesnt feel burdened by the need to refrain discussion from slots, nor is vague enough to be interpreted as a potential positioning tactic for scum wanting to navigate the game through others' POV.

I specifically liked this line:

In post 3385, mastina wrote: Also, looking for the busser is a mistake unless you think that all scum or all but one scum bussed.

1)

I agree. With the accompanying solve, this is always the optimal approach.

2)

Scum-

Mastina's

most obvious motive right now is to direct attention away from the major wagons

if

they contain her partner. This is because scumteam has already lost a number early-game so they have even less incentive to bus now than D2. But this take really only perpetuates the need to look at off-wagon scum.

So again, unless town is in a horrid direction, this is a town-centric trajectory... and even if the more commonly-agreed solves are wrong, I still hesitate to think this comes from scum because it's a sound approach consistent with

mastina's

personal thoughts.

im not quite there at

"hard defend"

territory but scum entries - on average - are far more shittier than what she provided.

i also see

MC's

vex about

TGP's

votes as stated in 3347 but that cant be resolved anymore.

~~~

on another note,

mastina

made me remember a few things I wanted to address.

a few slots need to get roasted.

Blitzo wrote:It seems like he's 100% tunneled on me and I'm not sure what else can really be said about it or to him at this point - if he's somehow town here this is some pretty poor play on his end.

I'm going to be honest,

Blitzo

, this feels like scum AtE.

Mostly because this is the highlight of your contribution to the D3 thus far and this is an indirect way of discrediting

BM

, an already-widely suspected slot.

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Mastina this is very disappointing

your ISO is disappointing

pooky

needs to bear hugs.

since a lot of sus on you seems based around meta, does it make sense for you to just

let

people point solves at you and then not resolve the suspicion?

In post 3325, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 3317, Taly wrote:Reck, what is your solve at the moment?
bro idfk

i appreciate the honesty but i dont think this dissuades the people thinking that you will flip red, man.

In post 3363, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Maestro

In post 3378, DrippingGoofball wrote:Martina who are you replacing?

In post 3382, DrippingGoofball wrote:Mastina, Maestro is scum. Easy peasy!

DGB

, I feel like I've made several continuous posts stating my position on

Maestro

and other votes you've made previously and even though I'm wanting more explanation behind your reads, you don't seem vested in giving greater context to your POV.

I'm also equally offset by - what looks like indifference - to my PoE falling down to you as scum.

Honestly, I haven't really seen a post from your ISO that makes me think it couldn't be from scum. I think your play is either very lax as town or designed to drop under the radar from most slots in this game, and that's a popular scum tactic especially in larger plists.

In post 3407, MURDERCAT wrote:Why am I scum now? I'm town.

I still agree but your recent solve posts feel a little hollow >:

Can you explain in 3350 on how

Flea

is likelier the partner of

Bell

than

HC

? What do you think of the votes on

HC

so far?

~~~

As a universal note, I'm not fond of the thread's instinctual reaction to brand a whole solve or gameplay as wrong if it leads them to being scum, especially since much of the thread isn't combating the playerlist's progression.

This thread reaction just makes me more inclined to think I'm headed in a good direction with my reads.

If I'm confbiased somewhere, why hasn't anybody called me out yet?

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:30 am**

*violently attacks BM to see if it gets me NKed tonight*

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:41 am**

In post 3419, Taly wrote:your recent solve posts feel a little hollow >:

Hard PR, but ok, will do more

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:42 am**

Can't say many small words

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:42 am**

In post 3421, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 3419, Taly wrote:your recent solve posts feel a little hollow >:
Hard PR, but ok, will do more

oh that's what you mean by PR, post restriction.

haha

<3

np

murderkitties

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:46 am**

Annoying, checking everything I can't say

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