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In post 3333, Moongrass wrote:You don't find Titus' recent posting town indicative?

I suppose I can say it this way: I find it town-indicative for Titus, but I find the posting of everyone to be town-indicative, so I have to look beyond what looks town indicative to delve into the possible scumteam combos and what the players are doing given the possible scumteam combos and what they hope to accomplish with their approach.

It's actually a bit of a return to my mastin2 days rather than my mastina days, but in this specific case, I actually felt it was necessary to, so to speak, regress towards that standard, again, because everyone looks town and yet two players by necessity aren't. Two players who to me, look to be town, cannot actually be town.

Trying to weigh surface-level feels for which players feel the most town, and then voting off the ones who feel the least town, just...doesn't feel like it's the way we win here. I genuinely feel the way to win is to look at all the players who look town, and then analyze their possible scumteams, eliminate the impossible pairs, and then judge off of the remaining possible pairs which are the ones which look the most likely to be true, off of what the players are doing rather than how they look when doing it.

My possible scumteam pairings are (not necessarily ordered most to least mind you):
Titus-House
House-cyrus
Titus-Mia+Maya
House-Mia+Maya
cyrus-Mia+Maya

Moongrass-cyrus (nothing eliminating them as a pair but I think Moongrass is town)
Moongrass-Mia+Maya (nothing eliminating them as a pair but I think Moongrass is town)

Titus-cyrus (almost impossible but not quite)

These are the only teams that I see as possible.

And if you look at the play of each individual in question keeping in mind that these are the only possible pairs.
I struggle to see cyrus as scum here in most cases; I see Titus and House both maneuvering in ways that feel like they are trying to shift the gamestate in a way that is more favorable to their chances of setting up a viable scum endgame. That doesn't mean cyrus can't be scum, and it doesn't mean Titus and House are for sure scum.

But I see Titus positioning in ways that feel like they are setting up for a chance to endgame, and I see House positioning in ways that feel like they are setting up for a chance to endgame, and I see cyrus as just being...cyrus. It's possible cyrus is a pawn of House (in which case, eliminate House first), it's possible that cyrus is just scum left on his own because Nancy and DKKoba don't care enough as scum with their scumbuddy dead on D1 and have abandoned cyrus. But while those are possible, it feels like the best options are House and Titus here.

The suspense....

In post 3375, jjh927 wrote:Honestly I think it's pretty memes that the wagon includes all of me, Titus, Moon, and House

And that's not a concern to you...why?

If cyrus were scum, that would mean either his remaining scumbuddy was bussing bringing the game down to one scum with an investigative still around...

...Or that if cyrus were scum, his scumbuddy would necessarily be one of {Mia and Maya Fey, Moongrass} (the latter of which would be incredibly unlikely here imo).

I just don't think that cyrus is scum here.

And I'm sticking to that.

In post 3402, mastina wrote:

In post 3375, jjh927 wrote:Honestly I think it's pretty memes that the wagon includes all of me, Titus, Moon, and House

And that's not a concern to you...why?

If cyrus were scum, that would mean either his remaining scumbuddy was bussing bringing the game down to one scum with an investigative still around...

...Or that if cyrus were scum, his scumbuddy would necessarily be one of {Mia and Maya Fey, Moongrass} (the latter of which would be incredibly unlikely here imo).

I just don't think that cyrus is scum here.

And I'm sticking to that.

I actually think that's a pretty town post.

Scum would be too self-aware to draw visibility to something like that in that manner, IMHO.

Oh wait.

I'm scum.

I should be pulling some shit out of my ass to rationalize why jjh would say that, shouldn't I?

Very substandard strategy. My bad, everyone.

I kinda also think it's town since it's like a weird way of building a bridge
also I'm working on the moongrass pbpa but it might be broken into chunks to make it so the final results are more digestible

pbpa of moon's posts, starting with posts that come after the role PMs went out. Rather than giving a note on each post sequentially I'm just binning each post in a specific category (shade, commentary, both, or neither) and tallying the final sums. Some posts might be lumped together.

shade (3): 452 (and 453), 481, 502
commentary (7): 446, 467, 480, 557, 658 (I think the peacekeeper act constitutes commentary), 661, 702
both (4): 478, 510, 526, 544
neither (19): 447, 449, 466? (feels almost like commentary but I'll give botd), 469, 473, 475, 499, 503, 508, 514, 520, 524, 528, 540, 549 (and 555), 578, 607, 685 (and 694), 707

current percentage of moongrass posts that are not shade, commentary, or a combination of the two by my discernment: 57.58%
also I figured out the exact thing moon expressed when it came to how long it had been since we last played, it's in 707

obviously this is nowhere near done, but I felt like 707 was a good stopping point for now since it's getting kinda late and I also wanna put something out before thread close

I'm not really seeing what the point of this excersize is.

Exercise?

Comparing this game to my expectations of scum!you developed in our last game together

Cyrus has been eliminated. He was:

It is now Night 3. Actions are are due within the next (expired on 2021-06-21 01:00:00).

If you would like a fast night, please ask via PM. If ALL players request fast night I will process actions as quickly as I am able.

I may not be available immediately after deadline. Actions will be locked in at that point, but day start may be delayed. This is very unlikely, so I will not be poking TLich to resolve for me, but it is possible that day start will be delayed by less than 24 hours.

I will be around to resolve Night at or shortly after deadline, as an update.

DrippingGoofball would not answer it's door after Night 3.

It was

jjh would not answer his door after Night 3.

He was

Not_Mafia would not answer his door after Night 3.

He was

I don't understand how a commuter died.

IC Commuter should basically be a town tree stump with a vote.

In post 3415, House wrote:I don't understand how a commuter died.

Commuter was disabled when nk died.

I don't know how scum got two kills.

Yeah I think it’s reasonable to conclude those were both scum-driven
But the question is how the hell that fits into the balance

In post 3418, Titus wrote:

In post 3415, House wrote:I don't understand how a commuter died.

Commuter was disabled when nk died.

I don't know how scum got two kills.

Oh. Duh.

What scares me is if they were able to choose a killing role such as poisoner or x-shot vig.

If so, this game is already lost.

We're at mylo possibly. It's bed time for me. No one do anything rash.

Anywho, my only options for votes today are Moongrass & Fey hydra.

In post 3421, Titus wrote:We're at mylo possibly. It's bed time for me. No one do anything rash.

Not possibly, we are.

2 scum still alive, we mislim & they kill = game over.

How so?
Like, why is Titus off the table?
Only people I’m definitely NOT touching are myself and mastina