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In post 3323, Toogeloo wrote:Cape is damn near locktown from my PoV. MalcolmTucker was too, and I hate that I didn't push against that harder. Cape isn't in my PoE, and the only way he gets Elimmed is if I get Night Killed.

In post 3353, Toogeloo wrote:But you are pushing Cape, which has never been in Frog's PoE. Maria was though, StD was as well, and Frog had a ton of skepticism over Math trying to out PRs while resolving Pooky.

Pushing Cape is where you lost me yesterday. Cape is town.

I don't think that Cape kills Toog here. Toog has cape lock towned and even suspected Titus for suspecting Cape. Toog was exactly who scum!Cape would want to take into ELo I think.

In post 3306, Toogeloo wrote:I think I might be wrong on Maria. I am now leaning Titus + Enchant after BCG's iso followed by the events of Day 4.

UNVOTE:

This is the last time that Toog mentioned Enchant, as part of his solve. Enchant has been fairly widely town read up until now, so he could see Toog as a threat.

In post 3263, Toogeloo wrote:I'm supporting MariaR elim.

In post 3275, Toogeloo wrote:VOTE: MariaR

I'm dying in this hill.

Toog was fairly strong on his Maria scum read for quite a while, although he did start to relent when he transitioned into that Titus+Enchant solve. With Titus's flip, it is fairly reasonable to think he might turn back on Maria.

In post 2573, Toogeloo wrote:I think the following players are for sure town...
NM
MT
Cape

Mostly ok with the following players...
Math (with some reservation)*
Marci

Last time Toog made a read statement about math, and that means that cape+math were toog's only two living town reads left from this list.

Cape and Math should not see Toog as a threat, Maria and Enchant could.

One of the former + one of the later might still kill toog to sure up the later. Definitely not cape+math tho.

Possible scum teams:

Cape+Enchant
Cape+Maria
Math+Enchant
Math+Maria
Maria+Enchant

Cape + anyone feels less likely too, just because Cape would probably feel decent to end game with toog alive given the strength of his read. Like, even if their partner went down cape could arguably win a 3p Elo with Cape+Toog+1, either with toog leading into a cross with the other, or toog choosing cape if cape is crossed with the +1



Math on the other hand might be concerned about answering why he is still alive at 3p, and thinks he needs to win now.


So, I am left at
Math+Enchant
Math+Maria
Maria+Enchant

Need to find 1 town in here.

Pedit: Enchant, why are you fucking voting already in Elo?

Please unvote

At least give everyone time to check in, give there solves, ect.

Like, even if you are sure that Math is scum, you have to also make sure that his partner is found for 3p elo

UNVOTE:

Fine.

Jesus fucking christ. I am going to walk away, and if the game is still here when I come back I will sort through the two of them

pedit: thank you

I cannot believe you people decided to vote the townist player in the game while I was g-

no wait, I do believe it.

I'm like pretty sure it's Luke/Enchant and I'm prob voting Luke today

@Cape
@Math

Ready to listen and vote the wolves just lmk

In post 3395, Enchant wrote:VOTE: MathBlade

I gived it enough thought, and my decision is final.

In post 3398, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 3323, Toogeloo wrote:Cape is damn near locktown from my PoV. MalcolmTucker was too, and I hate that I didn't push against that harder. Cape isn't in my PoE, and the only way he gets Elimmed is if I get Night Killed.

In post 3353, Toogeloo wrote:But you are pushing Cape, which has never been in Frog's PoE. Maria was though, StD was as well, and Frog had a ton of skepticism over Math trying to out PRs while resolving Pooky.

Pushing Cape is where you lost me yesterday. Cape is town.

I don't think that Cape kills Toog here. Toog has cape lock towned and even suspected Titus for suspecting Cape. Toog was exactly who scum!Cape would want to take into ELo I think.

In post 3306, Toogeloo wrote:I think I might be wrong on Maria. I am now leaning Titus + Enchant after BCG's iso followed by the events of Day 4.

UNVOTE:

This is the last time that Toog mentioned Enchant, as part of his solve. Enchant has been fairly widely town read up until now, so he could see Toog as a threat.

In post 3263, Toogeloo wrote:I'm supporting MariaR elim.

In post 3275, Toogeloo wrote:VOTE: MariaR

I'm dying in this hill.

Toog was fairly strong on his Maria scum read for quite a while, although he did start to relent when he transitioned into that Titus+Enchant solve. With Titus's flip, it is fairly reasonable to think he might turn back on Maria.

In post 2573, Toogeloo wrote:I think the following players are for sure town...
NM
MT
Cape

Mostly ok with the following players...
Math (with some reservation)*
Marci

Last time Toog made a read statement about math, and that means that cape+math were toog's only two living town reads left from this list.

Cape and Math should not see Toog as a threat, Maria and Enchant could.

One of the former + one of the later might still kill toog to sure up the later. Definitely not cape+math tho.

Possible scum teams:

Cape+Math

Cape+Enchant
Cape+Maria
Math+Enchant
Math+Maria
Maria+Enchant

Cape + anyone feels less likely too, just because Cape would probably feel decent to end game with toog alive given the strength of his read. Like, even if their partner went down cape could arguably win a 3p Elo with Cape+Toog+1, either with toog leading into a cross with the other, or toog choosing cape if cape is crossed with the +1

Cape+Enchant
Cape+Maria

Math on the other hand might be concerned about answering why he is still alive at 3p, and thinks he needs to win now.


So, I am left at
Math+Enchant
Math+Maria
Maria+Enchant

Need to find 1 town in here.

Pedit: Enchant, why are you fucking voting already in Elo?

Lukewarm and Cape confirmed not teamed

In post 3405, MariaR wrote:I'm like pretty sure it's Luke/Enchant and I'm prob voting Luke today

In post 3406, MariaR wrote:@Cape
@Math

Ready to listen and vote the wolves just lmk

I was already leaning Maria as one of the two based on the Toog scum read there and because I was town reading both Math and Enchant before Elo started.

And this feels like Maria+Enchant to me.

Not alienating either of Math or Cape by calling them scum, and only needs one of them to vote me to win.

In post 3405, MariaR wrote:I'm like pretty sure it's Luke/Enchant and I'm prob voting Luke today

I can agree on Enchant.

I don’t see why scum wouldn’t kill Enchant or me last night.

This means one of two possibilities:

A) Enchant is scum
B) Enchant and I are designed to 1v1 meaning the other scum won’t win if any are found.

Not killing in the two confirmed VTs is also weird.

I am trying to figure out how this balances mechanically and it doesn’t make sense.

Titus’s solve of Luke + Cape seems wrong or the game would be over already.

So I am currently on VLA so I don’t have a solve but I think I need to figure out why scum Kill Toog.

Toog wanted to die on the Maria scum hill.

Ugh everyone has sus

Unvoting in elo is extremely sus and Enchant is experienced enough to know better

Gun to my head it’s Maria Enchant.

I wish Titus had rolecopped Maria yes that’s my fault call me stupid later

In post 3397, Enchant wrote:

In post 3396, Cape90 wrote:

In post 3394, Lukewarm wrote:I'm gonna look through Toog's iso, Cape I see that you are super gung ho about me being scum, but I am town and this is Elo, so if you are town maybe hold for a bit.

It's fine because it looks like we are solving between the claims first unless literally none of the PR claims are mafia

Do Maria and Luke look like team?

The answer to this would be no if you’re town because you voted me.

In post 3410, MathBlade wrote:Unvoting in elo is extremely sus and Enchant is experienced enough to know better

Excuse me

In post 3412, Enchant wrote:

In post 3410, MathBlade wrote:Unvoting in elo is extremely sus and Enchant is experienced enough to know better

Excuse me

Correct.

Unvoting in elo is extremely sus

Plus if it was Maria and Luke like you pitched after voting me

Luke never tells you to Unvote because he wins.

I asked it after cape implied that we can be possible both be town, which only possible if Maria and Luke are both mafia, or Cape mafia themselfs, which i honestly doubt.

In post 3408, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 3405, MariaR wrote:I'm like pretty sure it's Luke/Enchant and I'm prob voting Luke today

In post 3406, MariaR wrote:@Cape
@Math

Ready to listen and vote the wolves just lmk

I was already leaning Maria as one of the two based on the Toog scum read there and because I was town reading both Math and Enchant before Elo started.

And this feels like Maria+Enchant to me.

Not alienating either of Math or Cape by calling them scum, and only needs one of them to vote me to win.

The hard setup is extremely obvious here tbh

Math you should know I'm a good enough wolf player that I never NK Toog here the person who was suspecting me the most that's stupid.

Is it just gonna be we vote off Enchant and then Cape dies and I'm at f3 with Luke who I wanted to vote before and Math cause lol.

Hey Enchant if you vote Luke I won't vote you.

Unless you brag about it afterwards.

If you're a villager you need my vote to survive so go ahead and vote Luke.

Why don't you first?

I am the person responsible for getting Pooky out of this game and tried many times.
BCG tried (and didn't) pocket me all of D1 you can read that for yourself.
There is no world where I NK the person who has wanted my head for days, that's the biggest red flag in history and Luke's "OMG UNVOTE" performative crap comes from wolf 9/10 times.
pedit: Because you had no problem fast voting before I don't see wy now there's an issue?

Yall don't get to just run over obv town Titus when were both suspecting Luke then come into today like "oh yeah let's ignore that"