Warrior Cats Mafia [Day Three]

[Datisi]

is kitty even widely scumread anymore?

[PenguinPower]

i don't think so

[Cephrir]

...Is Misty widely scum read?

It's fun to just not read the game and say random shit

[MathBlade]

Lmao

Like do we have to do this while I quote shit you deny it repeatedly?

Like seriously

That’s an elaborate dodge of The Who is scum with Titus question.

[MathBlade]

You’re literally proving my point

Finding something to nitpick versus addressing the overall topic

[Datisi]

i mean if your overall topic is "here are a few incorrect assumptions, now give me a full game solve to accompany scum-titus or your read is invalid", yes you are absolutely right i am not responding to that lol

[MathBlade]

i mean if your overall topic is "here are a few incorrect assumptions, now give me a full game solve to accompany scum-titus or your read is invalid", yes you are absolutely right i am not responding to that lol

I am not saying an entire solve.

I am saying show some in-depth thought I know people are capable of.

Like “maybe Titus is scum with X because Y”
Or “Titus isn’t scum with Q because R”

Replace letters with whatever makes sense

Something to show you’re thinking and willing to talk about other slots rather than just picking on Titus over a perceived slight.

[MathBlade]

Mistyx is scummy. She’s saying that things are arbitrary but not actually offering her own suggestions as to what the thread should be talking about. 452 is also scummy because it’s questioning mech stuff that isn’t public. Also her asking why mastina’s Norwee vote is the only vote Norwee cares about is bad because mastina was leading the wagon. 601-609 progression is bad. Her questioning of KT is good and displays clear scumhunting.

FENCE SITTING. T3 CAN GO IN EITHER DIRECTION FROM HERE. LOOK AT HIS LAST SENTENCE.

An example

There’s several Misty is scum snipes like this

Like seriously.

[Cephrir]

If you're expecting me to preflip Titus as scum you are going to be disappointed

[Bell]

I object to the idea I’ve ever had an in-depth thought in my life.
Misty is scum snipes isn’t really the same thing as being widely scum read.

[Bell]

Anticipation: yes, it does make a difference because you’re supposed to be representing the faction that is trying to figure out the truth.

[PenguinPower]

Like “maybe Titus is scum with X because Y”
Or “Titus isn’t scum with Q because R”

Replace letters with whatever makes sense

Something to show you’re thinking and willing to talk about other slots rather than just picking on Titus over a perceived slight.

Why do I need to decipher the whole scum team or make pre-flip associatives just because someone was caught being super scummy?

Like - it's not a "perceived slight..." it's continuous scummy behavior and she should be yeeted for it.

[MathBlade]

If you're expecting me to preflip Titus as scum you are going to be disappointed

I am expecting you to be scum hunting

Preflip associations are how you make sure a read is sound

If you think someone is scum but have no partners your read is bad

If you’re not validating your reads you’re not hunting

So ergo everyone should be doing them

Relying on them extensively no but doing them yes

It’s like everyone decided to phone in Titus is the elim and we don’t have to talk anyone else now

And when imho she flips green the take away is “oh well”

[MathBlade]

Like “maybe Titus is scum with X because Y”
Or “Titus isn’t scum with Q because R”

Replace letters with whatever makes sense

Something to show you’re thinking and willing to talk about other slots rather than just picking on Titus over a perceived slight.

Why do I need to decipher the whole scum team or make pre-flip associatives just because someone was caught being super scummy?

Like - it's not a "perceived slight..." it's continuous scummy behavior and she should be yeeted for it.

At best if I am being generous at face value she made one mistake

Then people nakedly vote

And don’t talk anyone else

[PenguinPower]

I think you are clouded in your view of her play this game if that's your takeaway.

[MathBlade]

I think you are clouded in your view of her play this game if that's your takeaway.

I really don’t think so.

I have a trip this weekend.

I am fully expecting Titus to flip green and then no one reflect and just “she was scummy”

When no she wasn’t.

V/LA until Monday after work

See y’all Monday if Titus isn’t flipped by then.

[Cephrir]

If you're expecting me to preflip Titus as scum you are going to be disappointed

I am expecting you to be scum hunting

Preflip associations are how you make sure a read is sound

If you think someone is scum but have no partners your read is bad

If you’re not validating your reads you’re not hunting

So ergo everyone should be doing them

Relying on them extensively no but doing them yes

It’s like everyone decided to phone in Titus is the elim and we don’t have to talk anyone else now

And when imho she flips green the take away is “oh well”

I have a different approach to the game than you and I've been getting rather good results recently so how about not telling me how to play thanks

[KittyTacky]

math, are you saying that scum-her is not capable of faking the event in this game?

Correct. I don’t think so no.

I think she has been swamped in RL and I don’t think this is fakery.

Her level of fakery as scum is generally really good.

if her level of fakery is really good... why is she not capable of acting confused about flavour names?

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I think if Titus flips red then Math stonks go way down. Might be partners.

[KittyTacky]

k

if titus flips scum i am lowkey locktowning mathblade

Why? It has a "buddy defense" vibe imo. I don't know how to explain it.

[KittyTacky]

Then again I don't remember how buddy defense-y Math is as scum. Actually I'm not sure I ever played with scum Math.

[KittyTacky]

one of them doesn't, the rest probably do, but i don't think it's worth pointing them straight at every power role

This. I really don't like Toogeloo's plan, stuff like this works in Town of Salem (or a poorly designed open) where the rolelist is known and you can eliminate scum with contradictory claims. But not in a closed setup.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Titus

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: PenguinPower

[fireisredsir]

I have an important announcement.

Due to things that have come to light and

Unforeseen Circumstances

, we as the wind clan have come to a decision that we must act with quick haste.
In part of this decision, we will now attempt to back the following motion.

VOTE: T3

It gets better if you vote him before he shows any signs of life

can someone from windclan paraphrase the discussion that preceded this

[fireisredsir]

Might as well disclose it since scum likely know by now.
Titus joined Wind Clan and I asked in wind clan if we could potentially flashwagon T3 since I townread everyone else in hood. This makes sense since we were talking about if there was scum in the hood and I thought if there was scum in our hood its probs just T3.
Norwee agreed with the idea so I went with it. I obvs couldn't get to check in with Val or Shiro about it since time was kind off of the essence. It was an idea worth trying because maybe if we did say eliminate T3 and flip him before he could tell scum that Titus joined Wind Clan, that would be a huge edge to have over scum. This is assuming he does flip scum ofc.

ok ig it was explained later was more just wondering who started this discussion

i was kinda thinking it could have been someone else who had the idea and then alisae jumped on it to get ahead of things and take credit for starting the push in the main thread, but if they were the one who brought it up originally then that kills that idea

not like its impossible they decided to hardbus there tho