↑TeChNoWC wrote:peta, what makes you suspicious of zajnet? That he wants a BB PL lynch?
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:15 pm
by petapan
↑petapan wrote:I lack townreads on both of them, that's all (although staeg wanting to sheep me makes me feel warm and fuzzy). I'm working by PoE at this point in the game.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:17 pm
by TeChNoWC
@Delta: Which wagon? Hasn't this been a practice for nearly everyone at this game, at some point or other?
@peta: I get that you are working now off your townreads first, scum second (and probs good at this point in the game since the scumpool will be pretty small), but who out of everyone looks most scummy to you?
Also thinking since we have another scumflip, another VC analysis would be good.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:18 pm
by petapan
have not decided yet, or i'd be voting them. not as many obvious connections.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:53 pm
by ShadowLurker
mod: sorry in advance for this long "bah" post
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OH FOR FUCKS SAKE I JUST READ 138 PAGES YESTERDAY. EARGJLEKGRJARELKGJLKRG
THIS WAS GOING TO BE MY FIRST* GAME IN 4-5 YEARS FUCK YOU SCUM
*technically 2nd but my 1st got eaten by the site crash
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:47 am
by Trevor
OK Zajnet's ISO is questioning, complaining, quoting, and making observations. No real scumhunting in it. My townlist right now is
I'm trusting other people's reads on TeCHno. It's interesting that Delta, a proven non-VT role, has survived the night kill for 6 nights. It's also interesting that the scum didn't kill Peta last night. Maybe they are just retarded because there is no incentive of killing a slot that just replaced in that wasn't even the towniest.
I want Deltabacon to fullclaim NOW because you're obviously not in danger of a nightkill. Abilities, partners, everything.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:49 am
by redFF
meh i think it's pretty hilarious that they killed shadowlurker, kill was probably just for the lulz.
this means they aren't worried about losing any time soon.
this means the townlists people are posting probably have a scum or 2 on them.
e.g.kondi
vote:kondi
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:50 am
by Trevor
Wow fucking hell you have tunneled on kondi the entire game despite everyone agreeing that he is obvtown.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:19 am
by SpyreX
Ok ok ok I'll actually not be lazy and do the VC this gameday.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:28 am
by TeChNoWC
↑SpyreX wrote:Ok ok ok I'll actually not be lazy and do the VC this gameday.
THANKYOU.
Because after I suggested it no one wanted to do it, and with eight games going on I sure as hell am not doing it.
I'VE SPENT NEARLY ALL DAY ON MAFIASCUM JUST READING. FML!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:34 am
by petapan
↑Trevor wrote:Wow fucking hell you have tunneled on kondi the entire game despite everyone agreeing that he is obvtown.
he has a grudge against him that extends to outside the game. i'd say more but rule #1.
not sure how illuminating VCA would be given the rules and the likely numbers of scum, but i'll keep an open mind.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:11 am
by callforjudgement
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:29 am
by kondi2424
Problems with that VC.
VOTE: funkybike
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:45 am
by Jackal711
VOTE: funkybike
Still think he may be scum. Though he was on the Zdenek lynch wagon it could very easily have been a distancing/bus vote.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:50 am
by TeChNoWC
Vote: funkybike
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:51 am
by SpyreX
hrm. I'm thinkin about angel or whatever in the greater context. Especially with the NKs
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:55 am
by TeChNoWC
↑SpyreX wrote:hrm. I'm thinkin about angel or whatever in the greater context. Especially with the NKs
Speak more.
I brought this point up early but no one wanted to listen.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:03 am
by SpyreX
Having the ability to dodge A wagon would be one that made sense for scum in this game. Multiple sure wouldn't.
Of course, the easiest way to "test" this is to run up DW and see if his compatriots deflect his lynch. That'd lend some serious credence to town angels.
As for the NK's:
imaginality, VT, was killed night 1
Rhinox, VT, killed night 2
MattP, VT, killed night 3
amrun, VT, killed night 4
uberninja, VT, killed night 5
Chevre/ShadowLurker, VT, killed night 6
Now this is the grossest kind of meta but: imagine, Rhinox and SL point at someone mafia side being an older player AND still being around. Imagine was town enough but unless they're playing avoid the doc (which in this setup would be damn near broken) these kills fluctuate really, really weird - there SHOULD have been a shot on DW because, at the minimum, it opens up the "I'm an angel totally" angle later.
SL makes no sense in the greater scheme. A PR left and "if I am scum I have won" peta still alive after Matt gets PR slit AND amrun gets tanked?
Really as stupid as it is the first thing that comes to mind is I'm being quasi setup because I cant think of many other scenarios (Kondi maaybe) where the kills make sense at all.
And with this game having a gamut up top, wasting them is even odder.
Could yesterdays kill be a simple choice of someone we weren't willing to lynch to try and WIFOM us into thinking peta is scum? I mean, after what I said it kind of would make sense. With Zdenek flipping scum it has me even more worried this is a repeat scenario of NY 152, but peta should definitely not be killed just yet. I'm even more uncormfortable though having him in lylo, if it were to come to it.
why do rhinox, imagine and SL deaths point to an older player scum? Is there any scum already dead that might fit this bill (though obviously not for SL I guess).
I think Trevor is right and Deltawave should full claim at this stage, though I know pretty much nothing about angels.
All this stuff just adds to the fact that Delta and peta need to die before the game gets super small, or before all the people that are left are those that will just blindly follow peta and not question his actions, and assume everything Delta says and does is great because he's an angel and 'therefore conf town'. No one's really expressed this sentiment in any great form but everyone seems pretty scared to discuss the idea of lynching the guy.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:38 am
by kondi2424
I personally think that all Angels should claim right now with all abilities.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:40 am
by SpyreX
I wouldn't kill peta before 3p lylo and only then if he voted me making it a desperation move HOPING he's scum. DW != peta.
imagine, and SL to a degree, are good players that haven't been as active lately. So I dont think those kills were an accident - they happened for a reason.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:50 am
by theamatuer
↑kondi2424 wrote:I personally think that all Angels should claim right now with all abilities.