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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:53 am
by Vifam
In post 3423, PeregrineV wrote: In post 3420, Vifam wrote:Because James literally claimed Mafia if he's town fuck it then whatever none of this is our fault
No. That's not how you win the game. "Fuck it" is not scumhunting.
Nah Im not with that im sorry you don't get to be completely antitown and useless the whole game, selfvote, claim mafia and get to live. That's ridiculous
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:54 am
by PeregrineV
In post 3422, Vifam wrote:Plus Comm feels more town than him in the first place and James has been a complete anti-town entity all game so
Yes, this I agree with.
However, we now have additional information that we have to use in addition to feels and stuff.
At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.
Otherwise, as a logic puzzle, James is only 2nd best choice.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:54 am
by Vifam
If he's town then that's completely on him idc
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:56 am
by PeregrineV
In post 3425, Vifam wrote: In post 3423, PeregrineV wrote: In post 3420, Vifam wrote:Because James literally claimed Mafia if he's town fuck it then whatever none of this is our fault
No. That's not how you win the game. "Fuck it" is not scumhunting.
Nah Im not with that im sorry you don't get to be completely antitown and useless the whole game, selfvote, claim mafia and get to live. That's ridiculous
Day1, fine. Day3, not using information is anti-town.
Besides, Almost already shot him last night, probably.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:57 am
by Vifam
Yeah Yume avoiding the thread is bad also
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:57 am
by PeregrineV
This isn't "punish the player", this is "make your team win". Post-game, please spend a full page or 2 tearing him a new one.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:00 am
by Vifam
I see what you're saying but it''s honestly more likely he's scum anyway
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:01 am
by Vifam
At this point Comm being scum takes too many wild theories
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:04 am
by havingfitz
In post 3426, PeregrineV wrote:At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.
We're staying away from claims? Why?
We have a 1v1...a scum admission....so.....huh?
I'd be up for Yuma after James given my previous RC suspicions. Plus Yume (who I know not) avoiding/ignoring the game.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:05 am
by PeregrineV
Not really.
Comm the scum rolecop claims to target Fitz, targets someone else, gives a fake result, and now knows three roles in a single night, their target, the vig who claimed, and Fitz who claimed.
That's the simplest assumption, nothing wild about it.
And bonus is Ram who claimed.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:07 am
by Vifam
Were not lynching Comm I really dont wanna entertain the thought im sorry
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:07 am
by PeregrineV
In post 3433, havingfitz wrote: In post 3426, PeregrineV wrote:At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.
We're staying away from claims? Why?
We have a 1v1...a scum admission....so.....huh?
I'd be up for Yuma after James given my previous RC suspicions. Plus Yume (who I know not) avoiding/ignoring the game.
Because if someone claimed that I was not my role, I would think they are scum and want them dead.
If I was VT being accused of being a PR, I would say "got me" and take the bullet for the real PR.
You did neither. Which I find SUPER fishy.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:07 am
by Vifam
Im gonna lynch the guy who just claimed mafia then disappeared after selfvoting
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:09 am
by Ramcius
In post 3434, PeregrineV wrote:
Not really.
Comm the scum rolecop claims to target Fitz, targets someone else, gives a fake result, and now knows three roles in a single night, their target, the vig who claimed, and Fitz who claimed.
That's the simplest assumption, nothing wild about it.
And bonus is Ram who claimed.
only thing pinging me here, why counter me on Fitz? I was demanding him reveal target and role, so he could name someone else and let Fitz eat bullet as caught mafia killer
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:11 am
by PeregrineV
In post 3435, Vifam wrote:Were not lynching Comm I really dont wanna entertain the thought im sorry
You don't have to vote him, but if he flips scum, it makes you look bad.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:13 am
by Vifam
I really don't think he's gonna flip scum
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:14 am
by Vifam
99% sure he's town
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:14 am
by PeregrineV
In post 3438, Ramcius wrote: In post 3434, PeregrineV wrote:
Not really.
Comm the scum rolecop claims to target Fitz, targets someone else, gives a fake result, and now knows three roles in a single night, their target, the vig who claimed, and Fitz who claimed.
That's the simplest assumption, nothing wild about it.
And bonus is Ram who claimed.
only thing pinging me here, why counter me on Fitz? I was demanding him reveal target and role, so he could name someone else and let Fitz eat bullet as caught mafia killer
If Fitz were Comm's buddy, then Comm could be trying to cover for Fitz. Even is Comm flips Scum Rolecop, we could believe he is telling truth on Fitz. See
3436.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:15 am
by PeregrineV
Maybe. That's why if we are not doing logic, then let's get rid of people we will never be able to get a read on because they never post. Or make them post.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:18 am
by Vifam
I think it's logical to lynch the guy claiming scum
Comm's play doesn't really make sense from a scum perspective
Comm isn't gonna claim D1 then go on to say he got the wrong result on Fitz
Like that's some shit you really gotta plan out
If he planned it all out good for him I guess he probably deserves to win
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:22 am
by PeregrineV
Yeah, cause town never do stupid shit.
In post 3444, Vifam wrote:
Comm's play doesn't really make sense from a scum perspective
I mostly agree.
In post 3444, Vifam wrote:Comm isn't gonna claim D1 then go on to say he got the wrong result on Fitz
No, as town he shoudl not.
Like that's some shit you really gotta plan out
If he planned it all out good for him I guess he probably deserves to win
Yes, and no. I don't care how well they planned it out, I still want to win.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:24 am
by Ramcius
In post 3444, Vifam wrote:I think it's logical to lynch the guy claiming scum
Comm's play doesn't really make sense from a scum perspective
Comm isn't gonna claim D1 then go on to say he got the wrong result on Fitz
Like that's some shit you really gotta plan out
If he planned it all out good for him I guess he probably deserves to win
Thing is, he claimed Fitz after me, which raises red flags there, so either they both scum and Comm tried save Fitz, or they both town and we dealing only with mafia, but no sk in this game
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:30 am
by havingfitz
In post 3436, PeregrineV wrote: In post 3433, havingfitz wrote: In post 3426, PeregrineV wrote:At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.
We're staying away from claims? Why?
We have a 1v1...a scum admission....so.....huh?
I'd be up for Yuma after James given my previous RC suspicions. Plus Yume (who I know not) avoiding/ignoring the game.
1) Because if someone claimed that I was not my role, I would think they are scum and want them dead.
2) If I was VT being accused of being a PR, I would say "got me" and take the bullet for the real PR.
You did neither. Which I find SUPER fishy.
1 - which I did evidenced my immediate vote on Comm. That has been retracted due to further consideration. Supported by subsequent claims and stuff.
2 - OBE due to point 1 but also...I'm not you. I'm not complex enough to support a falsehood as town. Plus if I had the real vig might have still claimed and/or Comm would still be suspect.
Do you think James is scum?
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:34 am
by havingfitz
In post 3400, havingfitz wrote: In post 3393, Ramcius wrote:my jk on you takes effect N3, my night actions are delayed, at least i assume so, since there nothing in my pm about my night actions not being delayed, that means my block on Fitz took effect N2, so posible i blocked N1 delayed NK from mafia team, you are safe for tonight and rb on you have no effect, you couldn't use your ability anyway, if you say true about being non consec.
With redirector in play i had no reason block you
, especially night you can't use your ability. Bus driver i don't believe, why swap Fitz and Zekro? Anyway, at this point you as good as VT till redirector alive
You had no idea a Redirector or bus driver was in play N2.
^^^
How could you support a N2 decision with speculation not brought up until D3??
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:42 am
by PeregrineV
In post 3447, havingfitz wrote: In post 3436, PeregrineV wrote: In post 3433, havingfitz wrote: In post 3426, PeregrineV wrote:At this point, if we are staying away from claims, then I would rather lynch Yume.
We're staying away from claims? Why?
We have a 1v1...a scum admission....so.....huh?
I'd be up for Yuma after James given my previous RC suspicions. Plus Yume (who I know not) avoiding/ignoring the game.
1) Because if someone claimed that I was not my role, I would think they are scum and want them dead.
2) If I was VT being accused of being a PR, I would say "got me" and take the bullet for the real PR.
You did neither. Which I find SUPER fishy.
1 - which I did evidenced my immediate vote on Comm. That has been retracted due to further consideration. Supported by subsequent claims and stuff.
2 - OBE due to point 1 but also...I'm not you. I'm not complex enough to support a falsehood as town. Plus if I had the real vig might have still claimed and/or Comm would still be suspect.
Do you think James is scum?
1. I saw that in
3113,
3119,
3127. Still, you seemed convinced at a speed that surprised me.
2. There's nothing complex about VTs taking hits for Town. That's basic town play.
Maybe the vig claims and maybe they don't.
No one seems to suspect Comm except me.
I think James is probably town. I'd be surprised if he's a cop, but if he is scum, then day1 would be some hard James bussing for some bonus town credit/revenge for crap play.