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Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:07 am**

Yeah I think we got just past that. Was there a place you wanted to start or is 21 fine?

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:09 am**

21 is fine

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:11 am**

see you when you finish w/ 41

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:28 am**

In post 619, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:I won't comment on Shoshin vs DT until I see what I want to see.
It shouldn't take more than 2 RL days.

In post 620, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:
In post 618, Alisae wrote:yo where am I wrong
Walk me through things plz
The unvote is to show my neutrality at this moment.
I can kinda see both sides but I need few RL days to see something assuming this shenanigans continues for those few days.

In post 622, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:I don't think this is TvT by the way.

Did you see what you were looking for and do you still think this is not TvT?

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:30 am**

In post 710, Jingle wrote:To ISO
Lycanfire
Xtoxm

To IGNORE
Gamma Emerald
NerfedBuJ

To TOWN
Alisae
Reiuji Utsuho
Vedith
Karmeleon

To SCUM
PvtUrist
Extrapolated Eagle

To ANNOY UNTIL THEY START MAKING ALIGNMENT NOISES
Shoshin
DoubtingThomas
Clemency
DrDolittle
grapes
mcqueen

Groups very vague, honestly don't have much to go on outside of my townreads.

this post is really town

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:34 am**

like all four of those townreads are ones I'm agreeing with at this point and the rest is pretty out there

I don't have Jingle pegged as the kind of player to purposely do shit like this as scum when there isn't a need to

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:35 am**

In post 3429, Ankamius wrote:
In post 710, Jingle wrote:To ISO
Lycanfire
Xtoxm

To IGNORE
Gamma Emerald
NerfedBuJ

To TOWN
Alisae
Reiuji Utsuho
Vedith
Karmeleon

To SCUM
PvtUrist
Extrapolated Eagle

To ANNOY UNTIL THEY START MAKING ALIGNMENT NOISES
Shoshin
DoubtingThomas
Clemency
DrDolittle
grapes
mcqueen

Groups very vague, honestly don't have much to go on outside of my townreads.
this post is really town

read the same post

pressed "X" to doubt

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:36 am**

In post 3430, Ankamius wrote:like all four of those townreads are ones I'm agreeing with at this point and the rest is pretty out there

I don't have Jingle pegged as the kind of player to purposely do shit like this as scum when there isn't a need to

you've played w/ vedith before at this point

are you townreading him based on what you've read in the game?

like Jingle/Ved are my two reads that could go either way, TBH

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:36 am**

I think you'd have to be reading through the thread through the same mindset I am to see it

the townread list is really town-indicative

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:39 am**

In post 3432, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3430, Ankamius wrote:like all four of those townreads are ones I'm agreeing with at this point and the rest is pretty out there

I don't have Jingle pegged as the kind of player to purposely do shit like this as scum when there isn't a need to
you've played w/ vedith before at this point

are you townreading him based on what you've read in the game?

like Jingle/Ved are my two reads that could go either way, TBH

my vedith townread up to that point is somewhat direct, but a lot of it is from the way the wagon on BuJ was handled; namely that I'm also townreading BuJ and the way the wagon formed was sketchy (this is the wagon that grapes easily slid onto after feeling the need to justify a Shoshin vote earlier btw)

it looks like an easy out wagon and iirc there wasn't really much support for BuJ before Vedith started that, so I think it's far more likely that either grapes was the only scum that hopped onto it or it was DDL+grapes

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:39 am**

In post 3433, Ankamius wrote:I think you'd have to be reading through the thread through the same mindset I am to see it

the townread list is really town-indicative

srs question

what mindset are you in

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:41 am**

but like

Reiuji and Karmeleon are relatively easy townreads (Reiuji moreso, Karmeleon only spewed town a few pages before)
Alisae is another one that's not the easiest person to townread at that point either, but that's another read I agree with

I find that post town-indicative because they're all townreads I also have, but are varying levels of consensus instead of fairly easy scumreads, one of which even is in the middle of a push

add that to how little consensus there is to the rest of the reads

it paints a pretty clear picture

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:41 am**

In post 3435, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3433, Ankamius wrote:I think you'd have to be reading through the thread through the same mindset I am to see it

the townread list is really town-indicative
srs question

what mindset are you in

I'm in analysis mode

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:42 am**

In post 731, Alisae wrote:
In post 727, DoubtingThomas wrote:Like, I have a really good read on catching really good players who are not being engaged in the thread as well as they should be if they were town.

For those of you know the likes of Bopolis, Wiggles, Knights, Achromatic, Dyachei, etc, I have like 100% scum read on legendary town players who are not really "actively" trying to catch scums when they were wolfing. Not like activity-wise active, more like, are they engaging with people in the thread and trying to solve everyone's slots?

iirc, Alisae has won like best town or scum player in the scummies last year, right? and she also has like 23k posts here?

The posts she's making here and the empty reads she's giving out while refusing to interact with me and trying to justify her fixation of tunneling me feels like a good player trying to play poorly on purpose.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HE THINKS I'M GOOD AT THE GAME
HAHAHHAHAHA
THATS SO FUCKING FUNNY OMG

btw this is still the best post in the game so far

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:44 am**

In post 3436, Ankamius wrote:but like

Reiuji and Karmeleon are relatively easy townreads (Reiuji moreso, Karmeleon only spewed town a few pages before)
Alisae is another one that's not the easiest person to townread at that point either, but that's another read I agree with

I find that post town-indicative because they're all townreads I also have, but are varying levels of consensus instead of fairly easy scumreads, one of which even is in the middle of a push

add that to how little consensus there is to the rest of the reads

it paints a pretty clear picture

Alright I can see that.

So scum pool for me right now is:
Max
Mcqueen
Liger
Xtoxm

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:44 am**

In post 3437, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3435, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3433, Ankamius wrote:I think you'd have to be reading through the thread through the same mindset I am to see it

the townread list is really town-indicative
srs question

what mindset are you in
I'm in analysis mode

also srs

what angle are you coming from

if you need me to explain the question i can

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:45 am**

also

gamestate read at carryover from shoshin/DT to nerfedbuj wagons

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:46 am**

Max
mcqueen
Liger

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:47 am**

In post 743, DoubtingThomas wrote:thanks for contributing

In post 744, DoubtingThomas wrote:VOTE: alisae

In post 745, DoubtingThomas wrote:loud is not scummy. being daft is, however.

In post 746, DoubtingThomas wrote:daft is not the right word. probably thick is a better word. pretending 'not contributing' is cool, or twtbaw or something. just being unhelpful.

In post 747, DoubtingThomas wrote:loud is scummy hmm idk if this is an actual thought process, tbh

does anyone know DT well enough to know whether he hedges on shit like this as town

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:48 am**

In post 3440, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3437, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3435, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3433, Ankamius wrote:I think you'd have to be reading through the thread through the same mindset I am to see it

the townread list is really town-indicative
srs question

what mindset are you in
I'm in analysis mode
also srs

what angle are you coming from

if you need me to explain the question i can

I'm looking at trajectories mainly and how people are responding relative to how I'm seeing the gamestate at that point

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:49 am**

In post 3444, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3440, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3437, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3435, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3433, Ankamius wrote:I think you'd have to be reading through the thread through the same mindset I am to see it

the townread list is really town-indicative
srs question

what mindset are you in
I'm in analysis mode
also srs

what angle are you coming from

if you need me to explain the question i can
I'm looking at trajectories mainly and how people are responding relative to how I'm seeing the gamestate at that point

good thing I asked the second question

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:49 am**

In post 3441, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:also

gamestate read at carryover from shoshin/DT to nerfedbuj wagons

I believe that scum didn't like the Shoshin/DT wagons and that the BuJ wagon was an out

the way grapes handled both of them is a lot of evidence for this

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:51 am**

In post 3446, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3441, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:also

gamestate read at carryover from shoshin/DT to nerfedbuj wagons
I believe that scum didn't like the Shoshin/DT wagons and that the BuJ wagon was an out

the way grapes handled both of them is a lot of evidence for this

Do you think it had to do with one of them being scum?

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:54 am**

wagonees specifically?

probably, I don't think grapes is an especially strong scum player so the tone shift is probably indicative

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:54 am**

Votecount 1.8
Shoshin(4) ~ Lycanfire(10), NerfedBuJ(13), DoubtingThomas(88), Frozen Angel(69)
Xtoxm(2) ~ DrDolittle(24), Shoshin(79)
NerfedBuJ(2) ~ Vedith(73), grapes(16)
DoubtingThomas(2) ~ Xtoxm(16), Alisae(76)
Vedith(1) ~ Extrapolated Eagle(90)
Lycanfire(1) ~ mcqueen(1)
Gamma Emerald(1) ~ PvtUrist(14)

the only reason I see for grapes avoiding these wagons is if one of them is scum trying to avoid a wagon or there's already too many scum on one of the wagons

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