Oh man, you definitely have to elaborate on this. Preferably in the same post you finally address my goddamn questions.
In post 3031, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Sorry, Two Sheds; I did look through Liberty Taco's iso before night end but didn't have a chance to post there. Honestly it was very difficult to get a bead on those posts; there weren't a ton of places to get a foothold and my brain would kind of glaze over trying to get a read. The few reads he does give were weak or unsourced, and the reaction to your wagon is bad.
In post 1851, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Hey all, getting caught up now. I see from the votecount people are no longer on Two Sheds. Is that because people no longer think she's scum or are the other two wagons significantly better?
Obvs I'm about to draw my own conclusion but it'd be cool to have an answer to that by the time I get caught up.
She went V/LA so the pressure felt pretty useless and I'm not super confident she's scum so I moved my vote.
Note the two different reasonings for the vote switch.
Now, last night you said you were worried he would make a push on you today and I told you I felt your reasoning was a stretch. So yeah, it was definitely a surprise to see Liberty Taco open the day with an unprompted attack on you. This babysitter thing doesn't make a lot of sense to me and honestly I'm not particularly interested in learning more about it, but the timing is all wrong based on the order of posts and the length of time between all the parts of that. I don't know if Liberty Taco is making things up or if this is some elaborate bus thing, but either way Liberty Taco is likely scum.
That's not to mention he's accused my vote of being opportunistic (and doubled down when asked to elaborate) when
I literally have not voted today
.
I'm perfectly willing to vote Liberty Taco right now, but I haven't read the last few pages and should probably hold off on that. Tomorrow I want to take a look at that paradigm guy and probably Red Hot Chili Wizard; I want to see how they are reacting to the Liberty Taco wagon.
ok, seen enough for suss, good wagon comp.
VOTE: Haschel Cedricson
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:05 am
by Battle Mage
In post 3428, SirCakez wrote:SirCakez also likes mastina's entrance but he realizes that mastina would be a good scum replacement here and is wary due to the atrociousness of TGP
what did you like about mastina's entrance? isn't it just...how she is?
I thought TGP was ostensibly cleared due to being alone with Reck and them not killing each other anyway? I asserted this earlier today, and nobody questionned it, so I'm assuming it's accepted wisdom.
In post 3385, mastina wrote:
Also, looking for the busser is a mistake unless you think that all scum or all but one scum bussed.
1)
I agree. With the accompanying solve, this is always the optimal approach.
2)
Scum-
Mastina's
most obvious motive right now is to direct attention away from the major wagons
if
they contain her partner. This is because scumteam has already lost a number early-game so they have even less incentive to bus now than D2. But this take really only perpetuates the need to look at off-wagon scum.
So again, unless town is in a horrid direction, this is a town-centric trajectory... and even if the more commonly-agreed solves are wrong, I still hesitate to think this comes from scum because it's a sound approach consistent with
mastina's
personal thoughts.
Except...I do think all scum or all but one scum bussing is perfectly plausible.
Also you listed me as a "widely scum read slot". Is that true? I think 1 player is voting me, and although my name has cropped up a lot, especially early in the game, I think the consensus is I'm obvtown? Generally votes on me have been based on demonstrably bad logic, or people just voting for personal grudges rather than anyone actually thinking I'm scum. So, an odd take.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:21 am
by Battle Mage
ah ive thought through the pairs thing again, it isnt quite as simple i guess. because if you had:
Cakez, Gamma, Titus in 1 room
and Reck, Alisae in another room.
and Alisae and Titus died, it would be more likely that Reck was scum than Gamma+Cakez.
So maybe throw Reck and TGP back into the mix.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:25 am
by Battle Mage
I don't understand why Maestro has not posted for many days, and hasn't been replaced, but TGP who was posting frequently, was replaced.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:26 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 3435, Battle Mage wrote:why would scum NK Gamma for attacking me though? doesn't make sense, surely better to keep him alive to attack me.
Thegoldenparadox has requested replacement and I am currently searching
i thought if you didn't post for 48 hours you were forcibly replaced?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:32 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 3442, Battle Mage wrote:you think I NKed Gamma because he attacked me? eh, well I don't have a rebuttal to that, other than - I didn't.
Don't be dense
I don't but that was the implication
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:32 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 3443, Battle Mage wrote:i thought if you didn't post for 48 hours you were forcibly replaced?
prod first
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:33 am
by Taly
In post 3437, Battle Mage wrote:Also you listed me as a "widely scum read slot". Is that true? I think 1 player is voting me, and although my name has cropped up a lot, especially early in the game, I think the consensus is I'm obvtown? Generally votes on me have been based on demonstrably bad logic, or people just voting for personal grudges rather than anyone actually thinking I'm scum. So, an odd take.
...
You've been the most consistently pushed player in this entire game. Widely scumread may not be the most accurate in terms of numbers at any given time, but I'm one of the minority people who've openly professed a townread on you, and certainly one of the ones who have done so the longest.
{Gamma/Cakez/Titus/Mastina/OWER/Flea/DGB}
being a handful of people who've suspected you at some point.
Are you confused on my wording or my take itself? Because if the former, then OK, and if the latter, then I clarify that I'm not discussing the merit of your suspicion. I'm talking about the volume that you have been suspected.
Thegoldenparadox has requested replacement and I am currently searching
i thought if you didn't post for 48 hours you were forcibly replaced?
In theory, yes, you have a 24 hour timer on posts and a 24 hour timer on replacement after that.
In practice, I am a human being who has to sometimes sleep and eat and do other things and not a thread activity checking robot so sometimes the prod does not immediately go out at exactly 24 hours, and in those instances the player still has 24 hours from the time of the prod.
