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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:46 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
yea.... curse bein a piss baby wasnt wat i expected. anyway

ur still scum like independent of this shit so ???

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:48 pm
by TheWayItEnds
i was only reffering to the middle line referencing me

no reaches in that post

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:49 pm
by TheWayItEnds
right im caught scum for thinking that eating RBs or getting a confirmed town is more positive EV than lynching my slight scum read

i member

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:50 pm
by Save The Dragons
yes

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:52 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
ok then ???? idk what u want from me LOL ??? like where im at is u r sayin u took no action 2 not be misinterpreted. why r u surprised that u got misinterpreted.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:52 pm
by TheWayItEnds
especially after i had to walk it back a bunch when bears claimed they were poisoned

something i knew was coming as a member of the scum team

very logic yes

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:55 pm
by Cephrir
In post 3407, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:also theres literally no irch def of ceph i can find like ???? u ok there buddy
No this does exist actually its early on in irchers iso and it's a weird break from his usual nothingposting

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:00 pm
by Cephrir
Idk I think LLD could have been killed for reasons other than her reads. If their n1 kill did indeed fail they might have avoided obvious protection targets n2

Or it's just a rolecop, or maybe they saw her making the save n1 somehow, or etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:01 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
In post 3431, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3407, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:also theres literally no irch def of ceph i can find like ???? u ok there buddy
No this does exist actually its early on in irchers iso and it's a weird break from his usual nothingposting
YEA we uh. we got there. sorry 2 disappoint u all LOL

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:15 pm
by SirCakez
In post 3427, TheWayItEnds wrote:right im caught scum for thinking that eating RBs or getting a confirmed town is more positive EV than lynching my slight scum read

i member
Reminder that "lynch" is no longer an acceptable term for mafia.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:15 pm
by The Three Bears
I'll try to get back soon. I've been swamped.

~Mama

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:19 pm
by Andante
In post 3435, The Three Bears wrote:I'll try to get back soon. I've been swamped.

~Mama
swamped you say? allow me to catch you up on what's happening... I wanted Dunn maf, no one went with that, there was a whole TWIE thing, now MUSH has a case against dragons. and tbh I'll likely sheep whatever MUSH wants to do, but I won't vote dragons.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:04 pm
by The Three Bears
In post 3346, TheWayItEnds wrote:like if someones going to claim non conseq FN as a scum fake claim they really want that first night action and you can assume their power level drops off afterward

whereas if he was town the EV we get from leaving him alive and eating RB or becoming confirmable is much higher

if im only slightly scum reading ircher which i clearly was day 1 then i think the positive EV play is to give him the 2 more days
no kill but we got mold'ed which I reckon means we're a delayed kill....

-Poink

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:13 pm
by Bell
In post 3221, Galron wrote:
In post 3218, Bell wrote:? You just answered my question Galron. Thanks. Dunno why it took you so long to get there though.
I'd like to know the importance of it.
I thought it seemed an odd post to have an expletive and a vote behind it. It kind of felt like you knew there would be consequences but impusively did a thing instead and I was trying to figure out if your reason was believable or not.

I'm tired.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:16 pm
by Bell
As for your answer, it sounds real to me. So that's cool.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:24 pm
by Galron
I don't know if I buy that because it seemed fairly self-evident to me, but it was me doing the thing so I guess it would

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:40 pm
by Tet
In post 103, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 96, Ircher wrote:
In post 63, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mine
Can you explain how this is scum indicative for Cephrir? I'm not familiar with his meta.
In post 71, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:For actively seeking fun. It reads to me like you drew scum, hated it, and are now looking for ways to make your own fun.
This seems really reachy. A lot of people mess around during the beginning of a game. How is this scum-indicative for Cephrir specifically and not for anyone else?
It is hard to explain because it is a thing Cephrir has only shown and told about in places I can't really draw evidence from but given Ceph's lack of outrage at the claims I am making I think you can infer the logic is at least true. Whether it is valid and reaches Ceph scum this time you can evaluate yourself but.

The logic is not fallacious
I was moreso seeing this as the interaction string where ircher defends Ceph and earns LLD's initial scumread off the back of it.

Twie had like 5 posts since this conversation started though and hasn't mentioned it or tried to elaborate on what he was getting at even when the direct question to him was requoted though so like..... Maybe were chasing nothing anyway.

VOTE: Twie

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:44 pm
by Tet
In post 3437, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 3346, TheWayItEnds wrote:like if someones going to claim non conseq FN as a scum fake claim they really want that first night action and you can assume their power level drops off afterward

whereas if he was town the EV we get from leaving him alive and eating RB or becoming confirmable is much higher

if im only slightly scum reading ircher which i clearly was day 1 then i think the positive EV play is to give him the 2 more days
no kill but we got mold'ed which I reckon means we're a delayed kill....

-Poink
not from scum, if at all. Scum didn't opt for a delayed kill when they had the option of an untraceable kill, a strongman, or a janitor at their disposal.

Bears I'mma need you back down here on earth.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:48 pm
by Tet
@Mush I don't want to steer you off track because LLD scumreading std does play into my reservation on that slot. But they have been trending downwards since the back half of day 1 specifically with some of the stances they started taking compared to early day 1 where the pushes looked good and the processes matched up.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:50 pm
by Tet
It's 0° omw to work and I can't feel my fingers. I'll get some more succinct thoughts out around 6-7 a.m. twies next post string should include a full claim.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:51 pm
by Galron
VOTE: thewayitends

Call me

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:52 pm
by Galron
We don't need a claim

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:58 pm
by SirCakez
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TheWayItEnds (8) - NorwegianboyEE, Dunnstral, Roden, Malakittens, Andante, Save the Dragons, Tet, Galron
tictac (2) - Cephrir, The Three Bears

Not voting (7) - TheWayItEnds, Bell, catboi, Toogeloo, tictac, mastina, MUSHSHAGANA

(expired on 2022-02-06 11:21:00) remain until day end

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to reach a majority.

Please let me know if you see any errors with this count!

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:30 pm
by TheWayItEnds
In post 3434, SirCakez wrote:
In post 3427, TheWayItEnds wrote:right im caught scum for thinking that eating RBs or getting a confirmed town is more positive EV than lynching my slight scum read

i member
Reminder that "lynch" is no longer an acceptable term for mafia.
fuck my bad

old habits

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:31 pm
by TheWayItEnds
In post 3441, Tet wrote:
In post 103, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 96, Ircher wrote:
In post 63, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mine
Can you explain how this is scum indicative for Cephrir? I'm not familiar with his meta.
In post 71, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:For actively seeking fun. It reads to me like you drew scum, hated it, and are now looking for ways to make your own fun.
This seems really reachy. A lot of people mess around during the beginning of a game. How is this scum-indicative for Cephrir specifically and not for anyone else?
It is hard to explain because it is a thing Cephrir has only shown and told about in places I can't really draw evidence from but given Ceph's lack of outrage at the claims I am making I think you can infer the logic is at least true. Whether it is valid and reaches Ceph scum this time you can evaluate yourself but.

The logic is not fallacious
I was moreso seeing this as the interaction string where ircher defends Ceph and earns LLD's initial scumread off the back of it.

Twie had like 5 posts since this conversation started though and hasn't mentioned it or tried to elaborate on what he was getting at even when the direct question to him was requoted though so like..... Maybe were chasing nothing anyway.

VOTE: Twie
lol?