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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:10 pm
by Titus
In post 3421, Aristeia wrote:ok I guess that makes sense but if a scum took vengeful dont they just claim VT how do you even find them
Given the issue that no one is claiming the n3 vig, we should deviate from my suggestion.

We take the scummiest VTs and make them claim their categories and why.

Then, any required PRs claim. By required PR, I mean a PR that must exist for those VTs to exist.

If there's a VT without a dance partner and/or lacks a good reason, high odds they are scum. Furthermore, they must argue scum is above them. The higher up the fake VT claim the more likely it's bullshit.

We need Implosion, Dwlee, and Harley to claim VT or PR.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:13 pm
by Ausuka
In post 3048, MathBlade wrote:This forces scum Ausaka to waste their JK on Roden to fake it.

So if Roden gets ascetic he knows scum in Asuaka or Enchant

If Roden doesn’t then Enchant is not ascetic and very likely bulletproof conf town.
or enchant comes in like "I'm town ascetic cop I was just trying to wifom"?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:16 pm
by Wallflower
In post 3426, Ausuka wrote:
In post 3048, MathBlade wrote:This forces scum Ausaka to waste their JK on Roden to fake it.

So if Roden gets ascetic he knows scum in Asuaka or Enchant

If Roden doesn’t then Enchant is not ascetic and very likely bulletproof conf town.
or enchant comes in like "I'm town ascetic cop I was just trying to wifom"?
And then I’ll be like “bruh”

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:17 pm
by Ausuka
In post 3427, Wallflower wrote:
In post 3426, Ausuka wrote:
In post 3048, MathBlade wrote:This forces scum Ausaka to waste their JK on Roden to fake it.

So if Roden gets ascetic he knows scum in Asuaka or Enchant

If Roden doesn’t then Enchant is not ascetic and very likely bulletproof conf town.
or enchant comes in like "I'm town ascetic cop I was just trying to wifom"?
And then I’ll be like “bruh”
I already got to that point tbh

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:18 pm
by MathBlade
If he does the Enchant trades and then has Harley Quinn conf town from being shot Ari conf town and has to give a new check

Odds of that are near zero

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:19 pm
by MathBlade
Like town enchant legit just claims cop then Ari is Doctor who saved HQ and we elim me and call it a day

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:20 pm
by MathBlade
So then it’s very likely if Enchant comes back ascetic we have a three way between Roden/A/enchant

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:22 pm
by Ausuka
In post 3101, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3098, Aristeia wrote:
In post 3096, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3092, Aristeia wrote:
In post 3091, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3089, Aristeia wrote:
In post 3087, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3084, Aristeia wrote:I tolerated your defense of HEM but this defense of Enchant too is just more scum siding lol
Then vote me.

Confirm Enchant as BP town

Lock town unelimmable I am fine with that

you being vanilla town doesn't mean Enchant is BP town
It does because of the missing kill
not true there is probably a doctor
Then said doc would be on Roden if it exists. If doc goes rogue then another no kill happens possibly

But if Roden dies I am going to think doc doesn’t exist
so we lim you - you flip vanilla town

so doc protects roden

roden checks enchant finds he is not ascetic so possibly scum bulletproof

ausuka dies at night

ok what now
Town BP.

Not scum BP.

There was no kill.

So ergo Enchant is conf town and can be reevaluated at elo but not before
I don't think that's what conf town means

Don't think it's impossible for enchant to be scum BP either, being vig immune and making sure there's no cop has utility

(Could also just not have that slot I suppose, not bp or ascetic?)

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:24 pm
by MathBlade
But that has to be who scum shoot since Ari said scum would shoot there.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:24 pm
by Dwlee99
There's no way to conf enchant without confirming not ascetic and limming scum today

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:24 pm
by MathBlade
So the odds are like 90 to 1 scum shoot enchant

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:25 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3434, Dwlee99 wrote:There's no way to conf enchant without confirming not ascetic and limming scum today
Or you lim me
Prove I am not killer
Then scum shot in Enchant and HQ

Problem solved

Scum always shoot enchant in that group as enchant is top spot

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:26 pm
by Ausuka
In post 3433, MathBlade wrote:But that has to be who scum shoot since Ari said scum would shoot there.
I'm sorry I'm not sure what this means. You think it's overwhelmingly likely scum shot Enchant so he's town?

Why couldn't scum just have shot hq

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:26 pm
by Ausuka
or scum shot mathblade

I'm joking mostly I have actually seen scum do something comparable before lmao

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:27 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3437, Ausuka wrote:
In post 3433, MathBlade wrote:But that has to be who scum shoot since Ari said scum would shoot there.
I'm sorry I'm not sure what this means. You think it's overwhelmingly likely scum shot Enchant so he's town?

Why couldn't scum just have shot hq
Ari laid out the case yesterday
It’s why she didn’t want to elim enchant n1

Look there she said it better than I can.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:28 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3438, Ausuka wrote:or scum shot mathblade

I'm joking mostly I have actually seen scum do something comparable before lmao
Haha this is never the case I like never get shot ever.
If scum shot me there’s way better shots.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:32 pm
by Ausuka
In post 3132, Aristeia wrote:yes i bussed hem on d1 so i could claim doctor on d2 and never endgame

genius
Yeah uh I do think Ari is like obviously town here now

Pedit: ok but I'm not compelled to agree with Ari I think it's fairly likely scum would choose to shoot someone else given that enchant was like a highly potential miselim if town and also like possibly just scum, and apparently Ari also thinks that now, so

pedit: no really I played this one mini normal where like, there were 4 prs left in the game and the scum shot a claimed vanilla townie scumread by like basically everyone

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:33 pm
by Aristeia
In post 3433, MathBlade wrote:But that has to be who scum shoot since Ari said scum would shoot there.
I said scum would shooot enchant
if enchant was not scum


So if Enchant dies, we know he's town

if Enchant lives, then we know he's scum.

I was assuming Enchant would've picked Ascetic Cop because that's the protown thing to do. picking bulletproof is literally making sure the town does not have a cop.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:38 pm
by Ausuka
In post 3266, Titus wrote:
Enchant1BP
Ausuka2JK
Harley Quinn7
Bellaphant9VT confirming Ausuka
Gamma Emerald14
implosion16
Malakittens216
Aristeia512doctor
humaneatingmonkey800goon
Titus9999
Dwlee994
Roden4voyeur
Save The Dragons8VT
MathBlade8VT confirming either n3 vig or vengeful is present



night 3 vigilanteorvengefulShould be present
1-shot vigilanteor2-shot PGO (active)
ascetic coporbulletproofEnchant
draft copor1-shot watcher
doctororroleblockerAri
universal backuporrolecop
neighborizerorvoyeurRoden
jailkeeperortrackerAusuka
Huh, I didn't really think about this yet but it makes it look like scum don't have a blocking role? I guess scum could have gone for jk but it sort of points to scum low in the draft I think?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:40 pm
by Titus
Again, this who shot whom discussion is pointless.

Let's just wait on HQ Implosion and Dwlee

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:42 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 3436, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3434, Dwlee99 wrote:There's no way to conf enchant without confirming not ascetic and limming scum today
Or you lim me
Prove I am not killer
Then scum shot in Enchant and HQ

Problem solved

Scum always shoot enchant in that group as enchant is top spot
Scum don't shoot enchant in that group if enchant is scum though

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:44 pm
by Titus
Dwlee PR or VT

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:46 pm
by Dwlee99
VT

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:49 pm
by Titus
So now we have Implosion and HQ to claim PR or VT. If PR to specific n3 vig or not.

This will out Enchant as near probable scum and possibly catch the VT partner.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:49 pm
by implosion
hi i'm here.

does order matter or should i go