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In post 3418, KittyTacky wrote:

In post 3323, Datisi wrote:k

if titus flips scum i am lowkey locktowning mathblade

Why? It has a "buddy defense" vibe imo. I don't know how to explain it.

well, it's like
fact: math is very good at scum
assumption: math and titus are scumbuddies

what in the everloving fuck is math doing? titus is close to death, and even if she doesn't die today, she probably will in the next few days. i think scum-math would know that, after titus flips red, he's gonna look like absolute garbage.

also, even speaking from a saving-titus angle - what is he doing?? he's calling her town for stuff that's not gonna convince anyone, and he's pushing me. except he's pushing me for not having an elaborate worldview around scum-titus - something that i don't think ANYONE voting her right now has! who is this supposed to convince to vote me?

and, i have very much seen town-math play an extra scumbuddy and strongly defend obvious scum. so i think it's very much not outside his townrange

* the only way the above doesn't apply is if titus is some uber strong scum power role that they would want to keep alive at all costs, which like... i doubt it, and we'll cross that bridge if we get to it

That makes sense, fair enough.

It really doesn’t.

If no one is solving Titus is town.

This wagon absolutely should not be happening.

Titus flips green. I die. Y’all miselim PP.

That’s how I think this goes.

Can you sell me why you want to kill Titus.

In post 3285, Datisi wrote:
uh, misty's case on me being s/s with t3 is like, fine, i guess. i am aware that the associates don't look great there in a vacuum. if misty was someone who was actually aware of my meta, i'd go into my usual "do you really think i play around partners the way i did there?" but i don't think xe is aware of that so yes whatever

In post 3395, Datisi wrote:also why are you saying plural "cases" when i have seen only one case (that was kinda mid, no offense)

is this a meaningful contradiction

probably not but i still feel eh about it

feel like im not doing anything productive

bleh

nothing Titus has said nor Math's defense of Titus makes me want to vote elsewhere. I actually think Math calling Titus town means she's scum anyways.

I skimmed but I'm going to reread when I get home but

@ bell/Toog why the votes on PP?

In post 3427, MathBlade wrote:If no one is solving Titus is town.

my issue with this is that you're making these like generalized conclusions about the gamestate when like... ok your point here i think is that if titus is scum, then the other scum would be hunting for places they could counterwagon

which, first off, they might not even want to save titus considering she's barely playing at this point, maybe she's a lot cause. or at least they don't want to actively look like they're doing that

and second, that's still only 3 people. looking at the entire game and saying that nobody is solving, therefore the lead wagon is on town, is just... not really a valid conclusion? not everyone can be scum

its like in the go game where you said that 2 unclaimed masons had gotten run up and therefore scum must have been in control of the game

both times you're ignoring that the vast majority of the game is town and scum can't be doing everything, and usually isn't even going to be doing that much bc most scum want to blend in

and considering the way t3 died yesterday i kinda don't get the feeling scum has a ton of control over what the gamestate looks like

In post 3432, Nero Cain wrote:@ bell/Toog why the votes on PP?

For me, it's simply because Titus is a Wind Cat.

you voted PP b/c Titus is a wind cat? So its a 1v1 between Titus and PP today?

In post 3429, Mistyx wrote:

In post 3285, Datisi wrote:
uh, misty's case on me being s/s with t3 is like, fine, i guess. i am aware that the associates don't look great there in a vacuum. if misty was someone who was actually aware of my meta, i'd go into my usual "do you really think i play around partners the way i did there?" but i don't think xe is aware of that so yes whatever

In post 3395, Datisi wrote:also why are you saying plural "cases" when i have seen only one case (that was kinda mid, no offense)

is this a meaningful contradiction

probably not but i still feel eh about it

i don't think the case on me you put out is *a bad look for you* but also if you're aware of how i play, it's a bad case

which i know you aren't, but i am

what about your play around t3 do you think is something you wouldn't do as scum

idk it just looks like shit

didn't t3 enter the game doing the bare minimum? probably would've done *something* to make myself look like not garbage

In post 3432, Nero Cain wrote:I skimmed but I'm going to reread when I get home but

@ bell/Toog why the votes on PP?

I've been wifom'd.
Penguin is trying to look reasonable and sane.
Titus is not.

In post 3438, Datisi wrote:idk it just looks like shit

didn't t3 enter the game doing the bare minimum? probably would've done *something* to make myself look like not garbage

I genuinely don't think you would, tbh.

In post 3438, Datisi wrote:idk it just looks like shit

didn't t3 enter the game doing the bare minimum? probably would've done *something* to make myself look like not garbage

good answer, i think

Disagree, Datisi would probably be passive, hope T3 does something to get themselves out of their situation, but not really do much to help or hurt their chances.

In post 3442, Bell wrote:Disagree, Datisi would probably be passive, hope T3 does something to get themselves out of their situation, but not really do much to help or hurt their chances.

if you think i, at this point, have ANY faith left that my scumbuddies won't be potatoes that do literally nothing to further the scum wincon, you are not familiar with my last few scumgames

In post 3440, Bell wrote:

In post 3438, Datisi wrote:idk it just looks like shit

didn't t3 enter the game doing the bare minimum? probably would've done *something* to make myself look like not garbage

I genuinely don't think you would, tbh.

i think what he did here is well in the range of possibilities of what he would do as scum

but i think as scum he would have done it intentionally being very aware of why that should make him town

and so i think when asked about it here, he would be a bit more likely as scum to have like, a ready made retort for why its impossible to be scum

but his answer was kinda like a "yea idk play better" which is not really at all similar vibes to how he's responded to similar questions before as scum

Are you saying you've learned from your mistakes?
Impossible.

i'm gonna do a funny

VOTE: flow trap

(still support the titus wagon, still wanna see her potentially run up, but if we're talking counterwagons, this one might be interesting)

i for one have not learned from my mistakes of thinking that me asking datisi why he can't be scum here is ever something i can correctly sort him based on

its fun to try tho

One does not simply stop being a nice guy.
I refuse to believe you aren't a push over who keeps giving people 15 chances while holding a reluctant, chagrined smile.

In post 3447, fireisredsir wrote:i for one have not learned from my mistakes of thinking that me asking datisi why he can't be scum here is ever something i can correctly sort him based on

its fun to try tho

That's my question.
Give it back.