Like not even trying to get into this argument at all but did you post the wrong video? Or am I missing something?
it might be related to the use of abilities in order to gain cs
now, that's not incorrect - in fact, it's very correct
it's just that you can set lasthits up so that you waste no mana/cds on them at all
not sure how this relates to the argument
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:42 am
by PJ.
Weird, Bad insults, that nobody knows what they are pertaining to aside. Mirror 1v1 doesn't mean anything, also I'd rather not make you cry in front of everyone.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:30 am
by Venmar
Guys, Corki and Graves are the best ADC's, no dispute is possible on this regard.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:54 am
by PJ.
I actually really enjoy corki and think he is perfectly fine in the current meta. I really like graves but I'm on the fence on whether he is any good.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:01 am
by xRECKONERx
Corki is great. Graves isn't...he's close, though.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:19 am
by Venmar
Corki is just SO MUCH fucking fun. He's also one of the few ADC's I can consistently do well with other than Varus. Graves is also just my favorite champion in general. If you get damage on Graves, and proper peel for him, he'll wipe out a team.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:19 am
by Venmar
(Though other ADC's are better than Graves in some scenarios, unfortunately. He's still great though)
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:30 am
by xRECKONERx
Graves misses the top cut of ADCs, which I think right now include Corki, Lucian, and Tristana.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:37 am
by Siveure DtTrikyp
Graves doesn't have range.
Whether range matters is fairly relevant as to how good graves is.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:42 am
by Maestro
Why am I the only one totally underwhelmed by Corki? Why is he good?
Also, my most recent match (CBF to go find Match results) is the perfect example of peaceable people asking for team to stop fighting, quietly getting CS and picking up kills, and carrying to a win. Annie and I just did our thing the whole game (I was on Jinx) and the enemy slowly became complacent, started losing teamfights, and we won handily after taking 2 inhibs.
No barons, 1 Dragon, which I forced after we took bot turret and got both laners out of the way. By the end I was 16/5, all 5 of which were in before 20:00. Nidalee was flaming Rengar for not ganking because she was feeding the Talon and needed help (it's a testament to his lack of ability that he didn't completely snowball), Rengar was flaming Nidalee back and calling us noobs because I refused to engage on Gnar (ADC) when his Fury was about to pop, and Ali would engage far too often and die.
I gave Ali some support advice ("don't take CS please" "don't steal buffs if you're helping me take them please" "don't engage when you're at half and they have all their CDs please") and he actually listened and improved throughout the game, and Rengar got a little better at ulting WITH us rather than against us, Nidalee had good poke and was cautious after lane, and I got fucktons of CS then carried with Annie (she was vs. a Malz mid and she won lane but wasn't too far ahead she could do it by herself).
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:44 am
by xRECKONERx
↑Maestro wrote:Why am I the only one totally underwhelmed by Corki? Why is he good?
His midgame damage spike is absolutely insane, and you can build him as an AD caster to where he doesn't have to rely on autoattacks. Great positioning, vision check, armor shred, and long range snipe/nuke.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:46 am
by Maestro
Huh. Guess I've just never seen a truly good one. The vision check I agree with, and his escape is fantastic - I'll give him that - I'd have to try him more to see the Armor shred in action but yeah, his ult is good. I just prefer global ones, so Jinx and Ez are most fun for me. (and Lucian because ZOOM ZOOM) :3
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:48 am
by xRECKONERx
Corki/Leona was actually my favorite lane back in S2 because holy fuck can Corki rip someone apart with his gatling gun if given enough time.