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In post 3442, Espeonage wrote:-.- Really, going to flop in with that?

And this post is much better?

At least muffin's has a talking point or two in it.

In post 3446, zMuffinMan wrote:see, the problem i have with you is that you're apparently convinced i'm scum, but you're doing absolutely nothing about it. i questioned why you think i'm scum and you gave some vague answer that, when pushed, you were unable to back up. instead you tried to deflect and claim that it's scum-motivated to question why you suspect me. lol

And in regards to my queries about it, you never actually tried to present what was desired to convince me of your case, or you deliberately ignored it.

In post 3447, Nero Cain wrote:, his main scumreads are his attackers

One problem is that you didn't attack me first. Also, as I said, Prohawk is less someone I think is really scum and more someone I'm not willing to trust with money and would prefer it go elsewhere. That's only 2/4, so nice try.

In post 3447, Nero Cain wrote:Voided: I'm not looking at the DP wagon.
Nero: Why not is he your buddy?
Voided: UGH! How dare you reach that conclusion.
Nero: Stop whining and tell me why.
Voided: I'm just not ok.
Nero:..........

A.) This is not a scummy conversation.

B.) Just because I'm not doing something like that somehow makes me scum? What if that's simply not how I like to do things?

In post 3447, Nero Cain wrote:Nero: Muffin just backtracked
Voided:Yeah he's suspicious
Muffin: Nero tampered with my post!!!
Voided: SRS tampering by Nero

I went over this already. It's cute (read disingenuous) that you're ignoring what I said about it so you can push your own painting version.

In post 3447, Nero Cain wrote:LB-Can you explain the town read on Voided?

She's done that already. Esp's is just gut. <_<

In post 3447, Nero Cain wrote:See if Gost ever responds to anyone accusing him of fake rage

Who the hell is Gost?

In post 3416, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Ghostly Penguin confuses me - it's been a while since I played with p_a (never played with Ghostlin), but she's never been this absent before

Ghostlin's absence is the big troubling thing; penguin disappears from time to time but Ghostlin is usually a guiding force as town. He isn't in this game.

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:Wait, Dr. Pepper was lynched by the end of D1? Aside from that, what extended case? The one where you compared his first post to Seanald's the first time you mention it, and then never add anything else aside from "this sounds fake", even though it really didn't, for the rest of the day? Looking past D1, the rest of your points against him are that his logic is terrible, which while it would be nice if only scum had terrible logic, that's not the way things are. And you were the second vote on Hermy, so you can't say that it was because it was a deadline lynch.

You haven't commented on me lynching DrPepper in general. Klick showed up with a bad post around the time when deadline was activated, which sounded fake to us, and we even ended up explaining why we did later. Other points against Klick were: posturing, focusing on us calling his line fake and doing nothing else, saying that he had a top scumread in Prohawk but being unwilling to vote him because he didn't want Voided to "escape a lynch" (implicit reasoning, #1306). Later, we had a lot of waffling based on the circumstances around his replace out; I actually don't see where we attacked him based on bad logic. And yes, when deadline was activated D1, our goal was to find a good lynch on the first person who pinged us. Hermy pinged us. What other sort of lynch would you expect us to find? Doesn't it seem hypocritical that you're criticizing us for not putting enough thought into determining a D1 lynch with a three day deadline when you're still having trouble finding a good scumread to lynch weeks into the game?

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:Wait, I can't spell. Still no Guille though.

Guille said "hi, I'm going to skim" and then disappeared. During this time, he showed absolutely no awareness of the game state, didn't complain, didn't do anything alignment relevant. What did you expect us to say about him?

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:Also, what was your read on Zd at the time?

Town.

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:Klick wasn't an inactive at that point, you didn't say any of that about Banakai back then, noting that I had only read up to page 60.

Klick was an inactive the entire time he was in the thread. I don't remember what happened on what page because I usually respond with off the cuff answers when I'm looking at things on my iPad; checking timelines is usually a horrible waste of time. No, I probably didn't find anything interesting about Banakai by then. Why does that matter?

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:The only post was just saying that you thought he was null, for what I saw as having a really similar post to DP's.

I pointed out how they were different.

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:DP specifically said something was happening in RL for him, so unless you have proof that he's lying, then that's not good enough. Further about Banakai, when you did finally post something meaningful about him, it was just echoing what LB was saying and you wouldn't have mentioned him at all if LB didn't bring him up. My reasons for suspecting those comments have barely even been damaged, much less shredded.

DP had time to log into the thread and notice when deadline was going to happen. If he noticed when deadline was going to happen and was town, he would also notice that there was a strong wagon forming that he could have looked at. He had time to put a vote down or contribute something in thread or give a shit that we were on limited time constraints, but he did not. Why? Because he was scum.

That's true. I also echoed what ffery said about him. Still doesn't mean that I didn't have a decent read on him.

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:Null+Scum=Null-Scum. Where's the problem? Also, how is lack of engagement scummy at all? Once again, it would be nice if it was, but it's not.

Null means that a player literally hasn't done anything (as in, has a rating of 0). Scummy means that the player is scum (as in, has a rating of -1). 0 + -1 = -1, as in a scummy hydra head plus a null hydra head is a scummy hydra. How did Quilford's posting make N's look townier if you didn't find anything in Quilford's posts that you liked? Lack of engagement is scummy because town players look for scum and try to get them lynched because that's their win condition. Scum players survive because that's their win condition; they also have more information than townies, so there's less "figuring things out".

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:He flipped town, so why would I not want the lynch to go through as scum? Aside from that, see the last point of the previous quote.

Easy target for you to push in the future.

In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:I had already tried several times to analyse Voided/Nero and failed, so I really didn't want to go right back into doing something that would cause me to continue being useless.

Why haven't we seen even a hint of this analysis in thread? I also wonder why you don't put any effort at all into figuring out who you actually want to lynch, even though that's sort of pretty much the most important thing when deadline is bearing down and you're the main wagon.

In post 3434, KingdomAces wrote:I... really don't want to decide. If I had to pick someone, I'd say BBMolla.

In post 3437, BBmolla wrote:Also, why can't people seem to not capitalize the M

I know it's wierd but BBMolla looks wierder

but I normally call you Molla so it's weird to type out molla because molla isn't a proper name

it's an improper name

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

KingdomAces (5): Lost Butterfly, Garuda, BBmolla, uʍop ǝpısdn, Harakiri
VoidedMafia (3): 1baldeagle1, , Nero Cain
Nero Cain (2): Lord Mhork, zMuffinMan
uʍop ǝpısdn (2): VoidedMafia, Espeonage
ProHawk (1): pieguyn
BBmolla (1): Ghostly Penguin

Not Voting (2): PeregrineV, KingdomAces

New deadline as of post 3220 is Monday, November 18th at 3:30pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

I don't suppose there's a chance we can swing support to a Nero lynch? He's still scum and he's slipping away just like I said he would.
>.<

KA is meh right now. Voided is town. Eagle is dumb but town for vote freezing. I need to think on molla.

Okay, I'm about to leave, so I'll make this quick then Quilford will have to do most of the posting from now on.

In post 3418, Harakiri wrote:Urk.

VOTE: KingdomAces

What makes you urk?

In post 3419, BBmolla wrote:

In post 3414, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:molla, I like you, I like your reads. What do you think of pieguy?

I haven't looked at him, everyone said he was town so I didn't bother

I'll put it on my to do list for you

thank you that means a lot

In post 3426, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 3408, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Think about what the fuck you're arguing. Do you know how much a piece of straw weighs?

So then you're making more out of it than there actually is.

In post 3408, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Also, I disagree that it's a very minor thing and dislike that you're trying to make me say it is.

If it was shallow but Pie was honestly pushing it like it was a good reason, you'd have a point. however, it was a shallow reason and Pie knew it was a shallow reason, so it seems to me that the content is irrelevant but the intent of pushing said content is.

You can fuck right off. I just said that I don't think it's this tiny small detail that you're trying to make me say it is.

In post 3459, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:

In post 3426, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 3408, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Think about what the fuck you're arguing. Do you know how much a piece of straw weighs?

So then you're making more out of it than there actually is.

In post 3408, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Also, I disagree that it's a very minor thing and dislike that you're trying to make me say it is.

If it was shallow but Pie was honestly pushing it like it was a good reason, you'd have a point. however, it was a shallow reason and Pie knew it was a shallow reason, so it seems to me that the content is irrelevant but the intent of pushing said content is.

You can fuck right off. I just said

and you quoted

that I don't think it's this tiny small detail that you're trying to make me say it is.

Also why are you ignoring the other things I said?

"Hey, everyone, look. I know you all are down in the dumps about these killings. Me too!"

When I was younger, I wanted to be a motivational speaker. It didn't work out. But I still liked to live the dream every once in awhile, and this seemed like a good enough chance.

"But we can't let ourselves get discouraged! So I worked out a deal with Mr. Thompson! He said we can knock off early, and he'll pay us for the rest of the day! Isn't that great?"

I beamed at the crowd. They didn't beam back.

"Uh, isn't the day almost over?" one of them asked.

I checked my watch. "Yeah. Uh. Er."

"So," he continued, "Not much of a deal then, is it?"

"Er."

has been activated. For Efficiency Bonus purposes, Day 4 will be considered to have had 24 hour periods remaining.

Right now I think our main point of discontention is actually a matter of theory. I am willing to admit that Garuda could be town who just got lucky with DP.

About BBm, all it is is PoE+not liking his playstyle. If you're expecting me to actually be good at this game, then you should seriously reconsider.

?

Just so we're clear, you're lynching me because you don't like me, not because you think I'm scum, right

can someone claim using wage freeze plz

In post 3420, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Guys, we should be voting Voided. Voided is just disregarding me for a stupid player whenever I try to attack him, so he's discrediting me.

Also, Voided was pissed that I froze a vote on him, LOL.

fake

and I don't see how that's even a scumtell

In post 3440, Harakiri wrote:Both of you can't even

begin

to complain about people misspelling your names. I mean, fuck, people have trouble figuring out my gender, let alone spell correctly.

I've never misspelt your name <3

KA is null for me. I'm fine with this


also are we changing the plan for N4? since one of the 4 townreads died we might wanna add another one in their place. same with the scumreads

In post 3409, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:If you think something's interesting enough to note in the first place, you should remember it. I asked you for clarification very early on while it would have still been fresh in your memory and you refused to give me an actual answer until I'd repeated the question twice and voted for you.

hell fucking no. there's no way I can remember exact shit in 100+ pages without having to go back and look for it, unless it's something major. you posting about fluff was not major, I wasn't even pushing it, but you all of a sudden included it when you wanna make a case on me. nice try

In post 3411, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Thank you for making my point.

no

next quote: I was thinking mhork did medium pyro, answered the questions, then started making stuff up (Pyro's reaction) after that. ofc that's really fucking stupid, and I get now it's incorrect. however, I know I've said this before. who's the one who's "dodging" now?

@Pie, pretty damn obviously was scum using it.

oh you're no fun > <

I damn well know scum used it. I was hoping scum would slip up and claim it anyway. thx a lot T_T

That is clutching at straws so bad.

no it's not

tell me what motivation I would possibly have for grasping at straws. it's a gambit that, even though it probably wouldn't work, at least has a chance to get something. see: what LB did with you (?). what's the difference between what I did and that? 0.0

v most recent version of THE PLAN. everyone nominate their top 2 townreads so we can fill in morph's spot and nominate which scumread should replace Seanald. we're making this happen

In post 3086, morph the cat wrote:

NOTE: IF you roll at 4, then send to whoever of Garuda or pieguym you're most comfortable sending money.

In post 2908, morph the cat wrote:

THE PLAN VERSION TWO: READ IT AGAIN FUCKERS

Updating plans to fit confotown Pyro's reads:

If your name is:

Lost Butterfly
morph
Pie
Peregrine

then tonight you sit down and get money. Bid as you see fit, advertise items you want to see available, play strategically, maybe steal some good stuff.

If your name is:

Voidedmafia
Seanald
Nero Cain
Kingdom Aces
Espionage
Prohawk

Then roll a 4 sided dice. Keep your roll a secret from any neighbor you might have.
If it is a 1, send all your remaining money to MTC
If it is a 2, send all your remaining money to LB
If it is a 3, send all your remaining money to Peregrine
If it is a 4, send all your remaining money to Pieguyn


If you don't have physical dice laying around, then you can roll virtual dice here: http://www.random.org/dice/

NOTE: This process will work best if it works randomly. Please don't pick your personal favorite out of of the list. Roll the dice and do what the Goddess of Chaos bids.



If you are on neither of these lists, then advertise as you feel appropriate. We don't want to lose another strong role like we did tracker.

Also, if anyone gets a windfall, shuffle the love around.

Too much resistance to lynch Voided.

In post 3470, pieguyn wrote:no it's not

tell me what motivation I would possibly have for grasping at straws. it's a gambit that, even though it probably wouldn't work, at least has a chance to get something. see: what LB did with you (?). what's the difference between what I did and that? 0.0

He thought I'd slipped.

EBWOP: It, dunno which head it was.