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In post 3473, Sakura Hana wrote:My logic is still sound regardless, if scum had any reason to disbelieve Katsuki, then Katsuki wouldn't be poisoned, ergo, Dunn and muffin are town, possibly Wisdom too.
MariaR is also scum.

Katsuki is fake claiming period. If he really is cop you'll see it when he's done being poisoned at day end I know I'm town at most I live for one more day.
We get the pools figured out and decide what pool to lynch in

I mean, if scum does have a gunsmith AND a poisoner it makes Katsuki's role more believable.

when the scumteam is likely 3 people no it doesn't.

In post 3450, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3448, Nosferatu wrote:oh yeah you like claimed a guilty

ok

someone claimed a guilty on you too, this is bad reasoning

ok?

like there's so much shit wrong there

In post 3449, Moment wrote:Hm. The person who claimed this guilty asking why you're voting there doesn't give you pause?

ive got no better place to put it at the moment and i believe the act of voting/unvoting is more important than where your vote is, so I don't really feel like unvoting.

In post 3450, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3448, Nosferatu wrote:oh yeah you like claimed a guilty

ok

someone claimed a guilty on you too, this is bad reasoning

ur ignoring the fact that I didn't have a guilty when the day started
and that while I claimed the fact that I had a gun, kokichi did not, and immediately assumed that it was a fakeclaim.
the circumstances for the two are totally different

@nancy: please stop taking it personally when someone calls you out for saying stupid shit tia. It happens to literally everyone every game.

In post 3477, MariaR wrote:when the scumteam is likely 3 people no it doesn't.

No, it is actually MORE believable if the scumteam is 3 people
We have a flipped roleblocker.
We have an existing poisoner.
We have a likely scum gunsmith.

out of those 3 the only one who actually gives any meaningful result is the roleblocker
the gunsmith is the equivalent to a scum miller for the other gunsmiths, so it's hard to tell if town/scum gunsmith from a gunsmith result.
the poisoner is the equivalent to a scum godfather for the other gunsmiths.

So only 1 scum actually gives any meaningful result to the gunsmiths and town doesnt seem to have any other way to figure out who's scum other than by day play entirely coz the investigatives are useless.
So an alignment cop can easily find the scum gunsmith and the scum poisoner and tell the difference, likewise can find a town gunsmith

Anyone with a "not gun" result can still be a scum poisoner
Anyone with a "gun" result that is a claimed gunsmith can still be a scum gunsmith.
An alignment cop doesnt care they'll get the alignment and i doubt there are millers or godfathers if the gunsmiths are already in a bad situation wrt investigations.

Just like the vanilla cops of last game, any non vanilla result didnt mean much for the town.

Ergo, i believe that Katsuki is the role he is claiming. And if the inno on muffin was enough to cause scum to poison him, i also believe that muffin is conf town.

Basically if you believe katsuki is fake claiming you have to believe that the town is more at a disadvantage than it already is wrt investigatives.

the poisoner is not a god father to gunsmiths because all you do is claim and the poisoner can be figured out.
Neither are the gunsmith millers because the gunsmith works on putting scum into pools of people with basic with up spec/knowl

the most powerful role is the roleblocker because it was the only one you couldn't have a good guess on

I don't even think I'm bias with this knowing katsuki is fake claiming you're just incorrect

I think you're underestimating how op poe by role is this game

Yeah poisoner is totally not a godfather.

In post 0, FakeGod wrote:

Poisoners

and

Doctors

do not have guns

Ok so you get everyone to claim if they have a gun or not then you know poisoner has to be in the people without guns.
All done

one scum in gunsmiths
one scum in no guns
should be autowin

If we're assuming there's a scum gunsmith (and I'm pretty sure we are) Than even that isn't helpful you could apply the same thing you're doing with poisoners to gunsmiths.

The only way your logic makes sense is if no one claimed but a simple mass claim and the fact it's a fakegod game blows this out of the water
Pedit: Exactly

In post 3487, MariaR wrote:Ok so you get everyone to claim if they have a gun or not then you know poisoner has to be in the people without guns.
All done

we currently have 4-5 ppl claimed to have guns
that leaves 10-9 ppl without guns.

Good luck PoEing the later.
Now can we please lynch player that has an alignment cop guilty on them?

nope

In post 3490, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 3487, MariaR wrote:Ok so you get everyone to claim if they have a gun or not then you know poisoner has to be in the people without guns.
All done

we currently have 4-5 ppl claimed to have guns
that leaves 10-9 ppl without guns.

Good luck PoEing the later.
Now can we please lynch player that has an alignment cop guilty on them?

The fact we even get a pool to poe from in the first place proves my point.

This game boils down to

(Okay X Y Z is claiming to have a gun so some scum has to be there if we find it the others are clear)

(There's also scum in A B C so if we lynch there the rest are clear)

You think we have a cop and a doctor to help with that?

there isn't a cop in a game full of gunsmiths ffs

im scared that we lynch mariar and she actually flips scum lmfao

I wish I was scum with how slow half the people in this town are eeee

ditto
but no, i only get to be scum in games i dont want to

You know what i also just realized.
That if the poisoner is the scum's Main character, anyone that doesnt have a gun and gets revealed as non MC is conf town LMAO.