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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:46 am
by shellyc
In post 3471, UNOwen wrote:PlusJOYED's quickhammer was awful but I don't think dave+Plus is the team, and between them dave is the one I believe is scum.
hmmmm
who do you think is daves partner?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:47 am
by shellyc
In post 3472, duppin wrote:but I don't really get the point about me avoiding voting on them?
like you're saying that they're miselimination bait but you're not doing anything to fix that, you binned them as newbtown and avoided attention on them
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:49 am
by duppin
In post 3476, shellyc wrote: In post 3472, duppin wrote:but I don't really get the point about me avoiding voting on them?
like you're saying that they're miselimination bait but you're not doing anything to fix that, you binned them as newbtown and avoided attention on them
But how am I avoiding voting on her? I said that if she is town then I think she is mislim bait which means that if she is scum then she is likely to get limmed as well. I had no scumread on her, so I just think it's a bit weird to phrase it as me avoiding voting on her
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:52 am
by shellyc
In post 3477, duppin wrote:But how am I avoiding voting on her? I said that if she is town then I think she is mislim bait which means that if she is scum then she is likely to get limmed as well. I had no scumread on her, so I just think it's a bit weird to phrase it as me avoiding voting on her
why did you actually townread them then? newbie pass?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:52 am
by UNOwen
Either duppin or Hectic. I was thinking I must be wrong about duppin, but then bugs was killed and the paranoia duppin expressed about that kill pretty much exactly matches my reaction to it, so I will be reviewing my Hectic read.
I believe the play here is to not execute regardless, but we should actually make use of the time available to us this time.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:53 am
by duppin
Anyway I think the most obvious pair would be dave + plus. UNO could be scum but I stand by my earlier read - i think his votes sound very town. I do believe shelly is town.
Hectic I think your play has been really town overall but I must admit that the way you defended Noraa and questioned scumreads on her day 1 does bother me a bit now. It would help me a lot if you could convince me that you are indeed town and not just deep wolfing. I am very curious as to where your thoughts are at today
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:53 am
by shellyc
do we massclaim here or nah?
uno why have you failed to interact with me? I feel like you're constantly *not* evaluating me for some reason
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:53 am
by duppin
In post 3478, shellyc wrote: In post 3477, duppin wrote:But how am I avoiding voting on her? I said that if she is town then I think she is mislim bait which means that if she is scum then she is likely to get limmed as well. I had no scumread on her, so I just think it's a bit weird to phrase it as me avoiding voting on her
why did you actually townread them then? newbie pass?
No I never townread her until the end of day 1 where I said I got slight town vibes from her "fire" towards BM
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:57 am
by shellyc
In post 3480, duppin wrote:Hectic I think your play has been really town overall but I must admit that the way you defended Noraa and questioned scumreads on her day 1 does bother me a bit now. It would help me a lot if you could convince me that you are indeed town and not just deep wolfing. I am very curious as to where your thoughts are at today
hectic was very town d1 but I think there's been a sharp dropoff in contribution and less of that town spark in hectic
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:58 am
by duppin
I would personally be okay with claiming - but seeing as mafia had a doc i am not entirely sure it is the best idea to force a mass claim
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:58 am
by shellyc
In post 3482, duppin wrote:where I said I got slight town vibes from her "fire" towards BM
GUYS DUPPIN IS SCUM
does not warrant a TR. aggressiveness isnt alignment indicative. you're finding very stretched reasons to read people here.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:58 am
by duppin
In post 3485, shellyc wrote: In post 3482, duppin wrote:where I said I got slight town vibes from her "fire" towards BM
GUYS DUPPIN IS SCUM
does not warrant a TR. aggressiveness isnt alignment indicative. you're finding very stretched reasons to read people here.
That's a really bad read.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:59 am
by UNOwen
In post 3481, shellyc wrote:do we massclaim here or nah?
uno why have you failed to interact with me? I feel like you're constantly *not* evaluating me for some reason
We have interacted before, but I have had you as town for quite a while now. Perhaps at this stage of the game that needs to be checked but just from my memory I suspect that when I review your posts I will conclude that your interactions with Noraa are not likely to be scum together.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:00 am
by shellyc
Massclaim: yay or nay?
why does mafia doc = not a good idea to massclaim btw?
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:01 am
by duppin
In post 3488, shellyc wrote:Massclaim: yay or nay?
why does mafia doc = not a good idea to massclaim btw?
Because it could indicate there is a vigi around
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:02 am
by shellyc
I was using that to reference how you basically TR'd aggressiveness which is not alignment indicative at all, and
Noraa tunnels more as scum from my shallow metadive
forced reasons to TR scumbuddy? Check.
pedit:
if we had a vigi why do we have no double kills
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:04 am
by UNOwen
Since we won't be executing, massclaim gives mafia more information for free. So I would say no but I am open to persuasion on why it is a good idea.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:05 am
by duppin
In post 3490, shellyc wrote:
I was using that to reference how you basically TR'd aggressiveness which is not alignment indicative at all, and
Noraa tunnels more as scum from my shallow metadive
forced reasons to TR scumbuddy? Check.
Yes and it is a terrible read. Why would I feel the need to throw a tr on a partner? She came across as very passionate to me when discussing with BM like being annoyed at BM calling out her friendship with you. I liked the fire of her tone and thought it felt slightly townie. I was clearly wrong but it is what it is.
pedit:
if we had a vigi why do we have no double kills
I do not know.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:07 am
by shellyc
if we no elim today scum likely no kills leaving us in the same spot tho
it's Miseliminate Or Lose. this is either the last day or the second last day. tbh I think we can solve this if we claim here.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:07 am
by shellyc
meh
I think im just going to end up paranoid and/or afraid if we elim today, best play is to no-execute, but scum has no incentive to kill either
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:08 am
by duppin
In post 3494, shellyc wrote:meh
I think im just going to end up paranoid and/or afraid if we elim today, best play is to no-execute, but scum has no incentive to kill either
Sure they have as there could still be TPRs around.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:11 am
by shellyc
Town Informed GS: There is a Mafia Doctor (detects 2/3 mafia)
Town Weak FN (basically a confirmable cop if crumbing)
Town Rolestopper (tbh, strongest protective)
VTs
Against
Mafia Doctor
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
is fairly balanced imo
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:12 am
by duppin
Okay we should not massclaim today
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:14 am
by shellyc
I know where you're heading with this but ehhhhh
I do think massclaiming here is the reasonable play fwiw. but if the consensus is no then nah no massclaim
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:20 am
by shellyc
this is mine