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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:12 am
by MathBlade
Because artifact transfers happen at night in the OP.
He’s saying that didn’t happen
Assuming you’re truthtelling You submit by end of day.
<< Spiffeh would receive artifact here
You get results end of night.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:16 am
by MathBlade
In post 3444, MathBlade wrote:
Upon receipt, a player may choose to interact with one Artifact in their possession per game phase. They may either use it or transfer the selected Artifact to another player rather than using it. This counts as the player's Artifact interaction for the night.
Transfers may only be performed during the Night phase.
If transferred, the recipient will be informed of the Artifact's Power and Negative Effect. They may also use any non-Artifact actions they have from their role, including the factional kill if Mafia. There is a limit of one non-factional kill role action used per player per phase.
Uhm how Spiffeh?
<< this here
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:19 am
by SirCakez
I submit at day time and get results at end of day not at night
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:21 am
by MathBlade
?? That seems really dumb when Transfers only happen at night.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:41 am
by MathBlade
Hey does anyone want to post their reads and more content to see if we can get Bell’s response to when get back to see if we can reaction test him? If you think he is town it’s win win
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:44 am
by MathBlade
I also have asked a question to the mod too but I don’t want to spoil Bell’s reaction if true.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:22 am
by Battle Mage
spiffeh got an artefact during the day today? to support Cakez' claim...sort of?
eh, i don't love it. but Titus' reaction in 3449 is worse
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:25 am
by Battle Mage
In post 3469, Titus wrote:Tammy, who do you think is scum?
I'm leaning Pooky, GreyICE and Spiffeh.
no more BM? I was like confscum a couple pages ago?
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:26 am
by Battle Mage
In post 3472, MathBlade wrote:
I wanna see what Bell says first and then think about this slowly to find the scum here.
Some made a mistake somewhere and I wanna find out what.
err why did Bell transfer an item to spiffeh in the middle of day? but more importantly, if spiffeh was scum...why admit that?
im confused, Mathblade help me out with the technical stuff.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:34 am
by Spiffeh
It's almost like
None of this matters
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:35 am
by MathBlade
In post 3483, Battle Mage wrote: In post 3472, MathBlade wrote:
I wanna see what Bell says first and then think about this slowly to find the scum here.
Some made a mistake somewhere and I wanna find out what.
err why did Bell transfer an item to spiffeh in the middle of day? but more importantly, if spiffeh was scum...why admit that?
im confused, Mathblade help me out with the technical stuff.
The answer is I am confused.
The OP says artifacts are only transferred at night.
Which makes it incredibly silly for scum to lie about.
I want to see Bell’s response to this.
The mod obviously cannot lie.
I want to see if Bell says either A or B. A or B are town reactions.
A or B should not be said before Bell responds and require different responses.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:41 am
by Battle Mage
where did Bell claim to transfer the item during the day?
i guess the simplest explanations would be either the Mod got it wrong in the OP, or Spiffeh and Bell are just scum? But both surprise me so I probably missed something key.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:48 am
by Battle Mage
oh yeah, i also forgot to claim this earlier (because i forgot i had it) - but one aspect of my role is that I'm a miller and come up guilty to all investigations. just an FYI i guess, as nobody has claimed to investigate me.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
you picked a miller card?
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:50 am
by MathBlade
In post 3486, Battle Mage wrote:where did Bell claim to transfer the item during the day?
i guess the simplest explanations would be either the Mod got it wrong in the OP, or Spiffeh and Bell are just scum? But both surprise me so I probably missed something key.
Bell can be town depending upon how he answers. I scumread him so I kinda want to hold back and make sure it’s not a I am tunnelled moment.
I agree neither conclusion seems to work so I kinda wanna see Bell’s response.
So I don’t want to spoil it by talking too much.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:51 am
by Battle Mage
i dunno what that means? but i think ur always meant to claim if ur a miller and i forgot lol
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:52 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
oh wait I got confused what game we were in hahaha
ignore that comment rofl
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:54 am
by Bell
Item was distributed at end of morning. There are other ways to distribute artifacts. The idea that spiffeh and I are scum together and gambiting is itself just a ploy to get more information out of people probably.. or he’s misplaying. Either wouldn’t shock me.
I just got off from work so I don’t have the full context behind what is being said.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:56 am
by Titus
My foundation was off for calling you scum. Prism pointed that out to me. I still don't like you not having any solid townreads but your votes don't make you confscum.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:56 am
by Bell
Yeah it just looks like he’s rules lawyering because he can’t get momentum otherwise and this is a pretty good point of leverage/opportunity.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:58 am
by MathBlade
In post 3492, Bell wrote:Item was distributed at end of morning. There are other ways to distribute artifacts. The idea that spiffeh and I are scum together and gambiting is itself just a ploy to get more information out of people probably.. or he’s misplaying. Either wouldn’t shock me.
I just got off from work so I don’t have the full context behind what is being said.
...The OP says artifacts are distributed only at night.
What part of reading the OP is rules lawyering?
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:59 am
by MathBlade
In post 3456, Spiffeh wrote:Mod has confirmed that I received the artifact at the correct time, after morning and before afternoon
This is literally impossible per the OP.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:59 am
by Battle Mage
In post 3492, Bell wrote:Item was distributed at end of morning. There are other ways to distribute artifacts. The idea that spiffeh and I are scum together and gambiting is itself just a ploy to get more information out of people probably.. or he’s misplaying. Either wouldn’t shock me.
I just got off from work so I don’t have the full context behind what is being said.
Mod
- can you please confirm if it is mechanically possible for artifacts to be transferred outside of the night phase/morning vote mechanic?
if no, we can just elim the liars.
if yes, think we need to start pinning people down to explanations for why they are moving items around. and someone needs to do a storyboard to work out whose account doesnt fit.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:00 am
by MathBlade
What information am I trying to get here?
I don’t want to know what the artifact does:
I just want to know if the thing you passed is an artifact or not,
And when you passed it.
That’s it.
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:02 am
by Bell
In post 3476, MathBlade wrote: In post 3444, MathBlade wrote:
Upon receipt, a player may choose to interact with one Artifact in their possession per game phase. They may either use it or transfer the selected Artifact to another player rather than using it. This counts as the player's Artifact interaction for the night.
Transfers may only be performed during the Night phase.
If transferred, the recipient will be informed of the Artifact's Power and Negative Effect. They may also use any non-Artifact actions they have from their role, including the factional kill if Mafia. There is a limit of one non-factional kill role action used per player per phase.
Uhm how Spiffeh?
<< this here
This is pretty selective reading. It starts with “upon receipt,” which I won’t go into further since I’ve already revealed enough. In general no, you’re wrong.