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Congrats Bell! I was rooting for you by the end

In post 3472, Dunnstral wrote:What happened with CoF's gold coins?

From my perspective, nothing happened to them. There were a couple of points in the game where players were confused about their coins. If asked, I explained. CoF never asked me about his coins.

Ffery, can I just ask... where in the ruleset was it stated that gold abilities existed outside of vanilization?

because I get it was a special interaction but that special interaction STILL REQUIRES that the gold ability not be erased to begin with.

Or else it's specifically... I dunno, this is.... I don't wanna be mean, i'm p. upset about that but I like you as a person and the rest of your game? I just...

gah

In post 3475, Lukewarm wrote:Congrats Bell! I was rooting for you by the end

I think the only thing I did well this game was pocket you. Though, I'm not sure if I actually did. But it felt like I did. <3.

-Bell

In post 3477, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ffery, can I just ask... where in the ruleset was it stated that gold abilities existed outside of vanilization?

because I get it was a special interaction but that special interaction STILL REQUIRES that the gold ability not be erased to begin with.

Or else it's specifically... I dunno, this is.... I don't wanna be mean, i'm p. upset about that but I like you as a person and the rest of your game? I just...

gah

Vanillaized players still collected gold. It's probably not explicit in the rule set, but coin based activities weren't affected by other abilities unless those abilities explicitly involved coins, such as selling/buying potions, stealing coins, etc.

In post 3475, Lukewarm wrote:Congrats Bell! I was rooting for you by the end

But y tho.

-Bell

I am realizing my posts make me sound very angry right now, but I am not. I wanted a town win here and I am prone to the occasional flair for the dramatic.

Nothing but good vibes for everybody in this game!

Notscience and I *are* gonna throw hands tho

Nah, Pav. you sound fine and your tone came across well. You don't sound negative at all.

-Bell

In post 3479, fferyllt wrote:

In post 3477, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ffery, can I just ask... where in the ruleset was it stated that gold abilities existed outside of vanilization?

because I get it was a special interaction but that special interaction STILL REQUIRES that the gold ability not be erased to begin with.

Or else it's specifically... I dunno, this is.... I don't wanna be mean, i'm p. upset about that but I like you as a person and the rest of your game? I just...

gah

Vanillaized players still collected gold. It's probably not explicit in the rule set, but coin based activities weren't affected by other abilities unless those abilities explicitly involved coins, such as selling/buying potions, stealing coins, etc.

Buying a potion for an ability makes sense.

A VT gets a potion... they get an ability right?

Same with the One shot watch in the PT. Bell is vanilized but can use that ability.

... but activating their OWN ability on their OWN role PM to regain an ability is... that seems antithetical to what a Vanilized VT/Goon should be able to do, per the rules of the game.

I don't wanna harp on this too much, so I won't progress that any further, cause I fear it gets cyclical from here. Thank you for the game, I'll look forward to your next one.

<3

In post 3480, Icebox wrote:

In post 3475, Lukewarm wrote:Congrats Bell! I was rooting for you by the end

But y tho.

-Bell

I wanted you to get revenge on notty for bloodstained lmao.

He had you completely convinced he was town, and you got to return the favor

In post 3485, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 3480, Icebox wrote:

In post 3475, Lukewarm wrote:Congrats Bell! I was rooting for you by the end

But y tho.

-Bell

I wanted you to get revenge on notty for bloodstained lmao.

He had you completely convinced he was town, and you got to return the favor

This is why I’m not pressed in the least

Did I have to be collateral damage though?

In both games?

Although - Bell, why did you decide that I was such a priority to kill? Like, you tried to kill me off. Twice. All while there were TWO mech cleared townies out there, skybird and LLD lol

In post 3484, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In post 3479, fferyllt wrote:

In post 3477, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ffery, can I just ask... where in the ruleset was it stated that gold abilities existed outside of vanilization?

because I get it was a special interaction but that special interaction STILL REQUIRES that the gold ability not be erased to begin with.

Or else it's specifically... I dunno, this is.... I don't wanna be mean, i'm p. upset about that but I like you as a person and the rest of your game? I just...

gah

Vanillaized players still collected gold. It's probably not explicit in the rule set, but coin based activities weren't affected by other abilities unless those abilities explicitly involved coins, such as selling/buying potions, stealing coins, etc.

Buying a potion for an ability makes sense.

A VT gets a potion... they get an ability right?

Same with the One shot watch in the PT. Bell is vanilized but can use that ability.

... but activating their OWN ability on their OWN role PM to regain an ability is... that seems antithetical to what a Vanilized VT/Goon should be able to do, per the rules of the game.

I don't wanna harp on this too much, so I won't progress that any further, cause I fear it gets cyclical from here. Thank you for the game, I'll look forward to your next one.

<3

I feel like that part of the design definitely needed more work. And I think trying to do a game with this many moving parts AND an additional mechanic as uPick was just an insane thing to do.

I feel like this game combed my hair and gave me a sunburn every single game night.

In post 3488, Lukewarm wrote:Although - Bell, why did you decide that I was such a priority to kill? Like, you tried to kill me off. Twice. All while there were TWO mech cleared townies out there, skybird and LLD lol

And you had me pocketed. HARD lol

Re:The Vanilla Potion thing.

I see that it was intentionally separate from the other abilities, even looking at the role pm the gold ability is separated from the others. But I do see LLD's point that that could have been clearer. A simple "gold purchase options are treated differently then your normal abilites" line somewhere under the gold mechanic rules in the OP.

In post 3465, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In post 3463, Icebox wrote:That would be the reasonable assumption to make, but it was actually a gold ability.

Note that when I claimed I didn't mention one.

-Bell

Vanilizations blank your role PM. Gold Abilities should ALSO have been removed.

This is... this is not...

I don't disagree. It was super convoluted and just near impossible to brain storm to the right answer. Though funnily enough Notty and Pav did find the correct answer, but they discarded it as unlikely and I would've been right there with them.

-Bell

In post 3307, Pavowski wrote:I do wish we still had Lukewarm about.
I feel he's the sort who could figure this out.

I saw this, and it gave me a nice ego boost. But it turns out that Bowser forced you to do it

LOL

I didn't really think Skybird was cleared and didn't agree with people about it oog.
Titus wasn't an active threat during the day phase.

We pretty much killed in order of how openly solvey the town players were or who was earning the most town reads from it.

-Bell

In post 3493, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 3307, Pavowski wrote:I do wish we still had Lukewarm about.
I feel he's the sort who could figure this out.

I saw this, and it gave me a nice ego boost. But it turns out that Bowser forced you to do it

Just because it was forced doesn't mean it's not true <3

I was very upset he waited so long to write a couplet

In post 3490, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 3488, Lukewarm wrote:Although - Bell, why did you decide that I was such a priority to kill? Like, you tried to kill me off. Twice. All while there were TWO mech cleared townies out there, skybird and LLD lol

And you had me pocketed. HARD lol

I did end up killing LLD because I was worried she would flip on me for how I was playing with her in the neighborhood. I didn't think she was cleared just for having a neighborizor/watcher role. It was townie but Bowser was pushing pretty hard for them in the neighborhood and so I could delay it there.

-Bell

In post 3497, Bowser Jr. wrote:I was very upset he waited so long to write a couplet

I told you in the hood what I was doing

You absolute towel