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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:34 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 3462, Andante wrote:cause here’s where I doubt Dwlee, picture this, Dwlee scum. just claimed miller. gets checked by a rolecop, so he instantly claims his true role. doc. that has felt fishy to me all game
No.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:40 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 3473, Andante wrote:if A50 continues to do nothing, I’m down to move there, I’m starting to like Gerain, so maybe it’s simply just A50/Osuka?? idk, class.
Um. A50 was checked by a role cop on night 2.
You know, that was such an stupid uneducated guess that i'm just gonna assume you dumbtelled and confirm you town that way.
Leaving... Huh. Just Osuka/Geraint.
Ok so it was Osuka/Geraint.
Game solved.
VOTE: Osuka
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:40 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Enchant - Combined Voyeur-Follower
(D1:
T3
No action taken/Protective action received, D2: Andante No action taken/No action received)
Dwlee99
- Roaming doctor (D1:
T3
, D2: No action)
Almost50
- VT
Andante
- VT
geraintm - VT
osuka - ??
NorwegianboyEE
- ??
Hella Jeff
- VT
Something_Smart
- Loud rolecop (D1: Dwlee, D2: Almost50)
I think the ONLY way this would fail is if Dwlee is a scum roaming doctor or Enchant's role is scum? Otherwise it should be 2/2 in Osuka/Geraint.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:41 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 3477, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Enchant - Combined Voyeur-Follower
(D1:
T3
No action taken/Protective action received, D2: Andante No action taken/No action received)
Dwlee99
- Roaming doctor (D1:
T3
, D2: No action)
Almost50
- VT
Andante
- Claimed VT
geraintm
- Claimed VT
osuka
- ??
NorwegianboyEE
- VT
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:42 am
by Dwlee99
Almost is confirmed vanilla, not vanilla town
Did Osuka seriously not claim
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:43 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 3479, Dwlee99 wrote:Almost is confirmed vanilla, not vanilla town
Did Osuka seriously not claim
Doesn't "Vanilla" mean town while "goon" would be given to a mafia?
I mean nobody ever says: "Vanilla mafia" right?
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:43 am
by Dwlee99
Role Cop gets vanilla to mafia goon
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:45 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Ok you're right. I checked the wiki.
here is no indication of the target's alignment; if a Mafia Goon or Vanilla Townie is investigated, they return "Vanilla".
So A50 isn't confirmed town, just either vanilla town or goon.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:47 am
by Dwlee99
I'm surprised you didn't know that?
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:49 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Almost50 - VT
Andante - Claimed VT
geraintm - Claimed VT
osuka - ??
NorwegianboyEE
- VT
Dwlee99
- Roaming doctor
Enchant
- Combined Voyeur-Follower
Ok so things aren't nearly as cut throat as i thought it was then.
I'm assuming Dwlee, and Enchant are town. Andante isn't really 'cleared' per say since i misunderstood how S_S's role works so their scumread of A50 isn't a dumb tell.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:50 am
by NorwegianboyEE
4 of those town PR's probably makes sense for the setup.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:52 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I made an assumption and never checked if it's actually true.
My b.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:35 am
by Almost50
In post 3408, Enchant wrote:Role Investigation performed.
Kill action performed on them.
Take wild quess who i targeted.
VOTE: Enchant
1- With the confirmation the Role Cop was TOWN, the Follower becomes redundant and uneeded for Town, thus a Scum role.
2- This isn't even how a Follower should receive their result. They should only receive "Investigative action" and not the exact action (when they are following a Doctor or a BG they can't tell the difference because both perform "protective actions")
And to verify this:
@Mod: If a Follower was targeting -say- a Tracker.. what result would you send them?
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:49 am
by Almost50
In post 3450, Dwlee99 wrote:Doing some rereading I think it's osuka/geraintm and I'm so annoyed we didn't flip them yesterday
That's what I kept saying and nobody was listening. I wanted to flip osuka.. or Norwee.. because if Norwee flips green the ONLY team formation left for me was T3+osuka+ger
UNVOTE:
I guess I should wait for mod confirmation
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:50 am
by Enchant
Why you asking what result i would get from Tracker?
Tracker doesh't check roles.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:50 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3487, Almost50 wrote: In post 3408, Enchant wrote:Role Investigation performed.
Kill action performed on them.
Take wild quess who i targeted.
VOTE: Enchant
1- With the confirmation the Role Cop was TOWN, the Follower becomes redundant and uneeded for Town, thus a Scum role.
2- This isn't even how a Follower should receive their result. They should only receive "Investigative action" and not the exact action (when they are following a Doctor or a BG they can't tell the difference because both perform "protective actions")
And to verify this:
@Mod: If a Follower was targeting -say- a Tracker.. what result would you send them?
Follower gets a different result for role investigation vs action investigation.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:54 am
by Almost50
In post 3489, Enchant wrote:Why you asking what result i would get from Tracker?
Tracker doesh't check roles.
To verify how the result is phrased. "Informative"? "Investigative"? "Tracking"??
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:56 am
by Dwlee99
I ran a game with a follower years ago: It's role investigation vs action investigation
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:56 am
by Dwlee99
(also just put a voyeur in the mini I modded a couple months ago, which has the same wording)
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:58 am
by Enchant
I have list of every result i can get but i won't paste it.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:58 am
by Almost50
In post 3490, Dwlee99 wrote:Follower gets a different result for role investigation vs action investigation.
I KNOW. But they should get the general group of action, as in "protective" or "investigative". They should not get a detailed action (such as "watched" or "stabbed" or "tracked").
Anyway, you can rephrase the question however you like.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:01 am
by Enchant
In post 3495, Almost50 wrote: In post 3490, Dwlee99 wrote:Follower gets a different result for role investigation vs action investigation.
I KNOW. But they should get the general group of action, as in "protective" or "investigative". They should not get a detailed action (such as "watched" or "stabbed" or "tracked").
Anyway, you can rephrase the question however you like.
Action Investigation and Role Investigation.
There's no other Investigation result i can get (only Miscellaneous but i am not sure if it's fitting).
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:05 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3495, Almost50 wrote: In post 3490, Dwlee99 wrote:Follower gets a different result for role investigation vs action investigation.
I KNOW. But they should get the general group of action, as in "protective" or "investigative". They should not get a detailed action (such as "watched" or "stabbed" or "tracked").
Anyway, you can rephrase the question however you like.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ormal_Game
They get one of these
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:10 am
by MegAzumarill
In post 3487, Almost50 wrote: In post 3408, Enchant wrote:Role Investigation performed.
Kill action performed on them.
Take wild quess who i targeted.
VOTE: Enchant
1- With the confirmation the Role Cop was TOWN, the Follower becomes redundant and uneeded for Town, thus a Scum role.
2- This isn't even how a Follower should receive their result. They should only receive "Investigative action" and not the exact action (when they are following a Doctor or a BG they can't tell the difference because both perform "protective actions")
And to verify this:
@Mod: If a Follower was targeting -say- a Tracker.. what result would you send them?
Answered in private
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:55 am
by Almost50
OK, mod confirmed "Roel Investigative" is valid, so back to my solve of osuka/ger, but I want ger first.
VOTE: ger