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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:26 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
Alright,
Rad - MathBlade - Frog.
Who else?
2 more baby!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:27 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:
1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.
This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.
Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost
But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:27 pm
by Off The Hook
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:27 pm
by Off The Hook
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:28 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3162, RCEnigma wrote: In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:
1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.
Err…. What if you’re town with bad reads?
Okay this is the nicer version of what I said. You can be town whether my theory is true or not.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:29 pm
by Bell
In post 3471, T-Bone wrote:
In post 3443, Bell wrote: In post 3442, T-Bone wrote:Far be it for me to jump to conclusions but there's one conclusion I immediately jump to.
I don’t know what conclusions you’re reaching?
That post is so out of context I think it was meant for a PT
I had a convo earlier in the game about Frog, Granade throwing. It’s in reference to that.
Though, I thought they did it intentionally as a reaction test
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:29 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3165, Rad wrote: In post 3162, RCEnigma wrote: In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:
1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.
Err…. What if you’re town with bad reads?
Scum team should still want to knock down the top town players regardless of their ability to read. Town read players aren't scary for their ability to read (that's completely separate and a skill thing), they're scary for making the less town read players more likely to be the target of town's focus.
Lol no
I have been left alive as mechanically confirmed town with proper reads because people distrust me that much.
Like this just isn’t a thing.
I can’t figure out whether this is arrogance from town or scum though.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:32 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 3476, MathBlade wrote: In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:
1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.
This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.
Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost
But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks
Ooooo
You gonna vote Rad?
Or Pass?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:33 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3173, Rad wrote: In post 3168, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: In post 3141, Rad wrote:
No, I'm saying that any town slot that's being widely read as town is horrendously dangerous to scum and they need to be taken down a slot. Maybe town accomplishes that for them, or maybe scum has to push it. But it has to happen.
Do you disagree?
Yeah, I do.
Just kill them? Unless their reads are bad, then let them live and continue making bad pushes while leading town?
You disagree?
I guess it depends on the skill level of the scum team? It's my experience that scum just kills the top town read player so as to not overthink things. Sure scum could decide something different but in general, isn't that just what happens?
I think NKA is one of the best ways to catch scum.
Assume I am scum incorrectly. I have a different kill pattern than most people. Who I kill would be different than who StD would kill. I have had discussions with teammates on who to kill and why in PTs. Applying one size fits all brush feels like fake content. It’s meant to say things but not actually be helpful.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:33 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
Today Math makes a decision. He could be a winner or he could lose it all!
Will he vote Rad or Pass?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:34 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3482, ProfessorDrapion wrote: In post 3476, MathBlade wrote: In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:
1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.
This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.
Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost
But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks
Ooooo
You gonna vote Rad?
Or Pass?
I am not sure yet. The only read I have on Rad is that Rad is arrogant.
I can’t tell if that arrogance is genuine or being used to fake reads.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:35 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 3485, MathBlade wrote: In post 3482, ProfessorDrapion wrote: In post 3476, MathBlade wrote: In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:
1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.
This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.
Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost
But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks
Ooooo
You gonna vote Rad?
Or Pass?
I am not sure yet. The only read I have on Rad is that Rad is arrogant.
I can’t tell if that arrogance is genuine or being used to fake reads.
It might just be how he plays normally no?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:36 pm
by MathBlade
I don’t like the lack of scumreads here.
Have you given thought as to why so few? You don’t feel very attacky.
Where is I am going to attack people Titus?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:36 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:37 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3486, ProfessorDrapion wrote: In post 3485, MathBlade wrote: In post 3482, ProfessorDrapion wrote: In post 3476, MathBlade wrote: In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:
1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.
This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.
Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost
But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks
Ooooo
You gonna vote Rad?
Or Pass?
I am not sure yet. The only read I have on Rad is that Rad is arrogant.
I can’t tell if that arrogance is genuine or being used to fake reads.
It might just be how he plays normally no?
Possibly. I don’t know Rad. I want Rad to speak about this game rather than some theory based “perfect” scum. Something tangible. There’s hundreds of pages.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:38 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 3487, MathBlade wrote:
I don’t like the lack of scumreads here.
Have you given thought as to why so few? You don’t feel very attacky.
Where is I am going to attack people Titus?
Yeah you heard the man!
Be like me who when sees one thing wrong or you don’t like just Chuck them into your wolf reads and see if they become deeper or not.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:39 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3178, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: In post 3173, Rad wrote:
I guess it depends on the skill level of the scum team? It's my experience that scum just kills the top town read player so as to not overthink things. Sure scum could decide something different but in general, isn't that just what happens?
Right, OK. So you agree that scum can just kill top town reads.
So, why bother wasting energy and drawing attention to themselves in thread by trying to push/discredit them?
You're literally arguing against your own original point here.
I like BBT’s reach out here. I don’t think there’s any SvS worlds here for Rad and BBT. I think if one of these two is scum the other has to be town. (I am not sure if any scum are in these but if any probably Rad) more I am relatively certain SvS is out.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:39 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
I recently replaced into a game, didn’t get to do much and Rad won as wolf.
I was thinking of voting them as well.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:40 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
Who’s on and ready to win?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:41 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3181, T-Bone wrote: In post 3141, Rad wrote: In post 3139, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Rad, are you suggesting widely town read people should be able to do whatever they want without being questioned otherwise it's scum trying to undermine town reads?
Because it sounds like that's what you're saying.
No, I'm saying that any town slot that's being widely read as town is horrendously dangerous to scum and they need to be taken down a slot. Maybe town accomplishes that for them, or maybe scum has to push it. But it has to happen.
Do you disagree?
Or they are playing a good scum game and aren't a threat at all!
This.
In games with huge blocks d1 generally means one of three things: Town are winning hardcore or town are losing or bastardiness or a mix. If I can sort the bastard I can sort which case (if any) applies.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:42 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Hi
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:42 pm
by Malakittens
In post 3471, T-Bone wrote:
In post 3443, Bell wrote: In post 3442, T-Bone wrote:Far be it for me to jump to conclusions but there's one conclusion I immediately jump to.
I don’t know what conclusions you’re reaching?
That post is so out of context I think it was meant for a PT
But but
Scum don’t have daytalk
So no
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:43 pm
by Rad
NGL I can be pretty arrogant rofl
I have to read up on malcolm and DP tonight. And now I have to uhhh do this:
In post 3489, MathBlade wrote:Possibly. I don’t know Rad. I want Rad to speak about this game rather than some theory based “perfect” scum. Something tangible. There’s hundreds of pages.
I got my work cut out for me then?
Sorry if you don't like my theory here. It's sincere. If it's wrong, ok! It's how I've been thinking about this list though. I truly believe that scum should want to knock down any
town slots that are highly read as town
(I think the "town slot" part got missed in one of my past posts by a couple people now). Seems like a no-brainer to me but if it's wrong, ok!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:44 pm
by MathBlade
You’re being annoying
Who says sheeping you is winning?
Do you have a case or thoughts?
This game feels like a ton of people going
“Sheep me”
Another person “Why?”
Person 1 again “Sheep me”
Another person logs off
Person 3 “I can do that person”
Person 4 “Sheep me on new person”
Person 5 “Why?”
Person 4 again “Sheep me”
Rinse wash repeat
Can we like talk with versus talk at?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:44 pm
by Malakittens
Mine