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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:11 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Hi again, I've been stumped.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:11 pm

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EBWOP: *shut you up
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:16 pm

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So two scum dead? How did I die again in this game?
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:21 pm

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You were run over, presumedly by one of the undiscovered Beta mafia.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:23 pm

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I read the scum's posts.

I'd say the living scum is between veerus and Trumpet of Doom, with a smaller probability for malthusis.

It's quite clear that the scum made a pact of never mentioning each other.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:27 pm

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Trumpet of Doom never mentioned the other two scumbags.

malthusis and veerus mentioned the scumbags liberally.

I say the scum is ToD, how 'bout that?
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:38 pm

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@Seraphim: Your effect on this game has been overwhelmingly negative, and you're talking like everyone should think you're town. That assumption has no basis in reality.

We don't know your alignment. We don't know if your "bring back a townie from the dead who can have no effect on the game apart from talk" is a town power, or a trade-off for some scum power. We don't know if your day 1 lynch was a scum strategy that saved you for later and deprived the town of a lynch. We don't know why you brought back DGB, rather than another player.

Now you're not answering my questions about your conviction that I'm scum for OMGUS reasons.

In short, you discredit yourself. I'm pointing it out because I think there's a good chance you're scum.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:37 pm

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Uh, guys, I just went for a restroom break. Why does everybody look like they've seen a ghost? And where did Ortolan, Budja, and Panzerjager go, anyways?

:) Nice of y'all to remove the reason for my removal - I'm guessing Panzer was responsible for my temporary removal from the game, and I see Seraphim's come to the same conclusion.

Let me see if I have this straight: Budja was a mafia cop who claimed to have a guilty on Percy. Percy replied that Budja had actually targeted veerus, that he was able to get an investigation on Budja, and that he found Budja guilty, and specifically "alpha mafia." Panzer promptly claimed bulletproof JoAT who'd tried to vig Percy and failed. Percy suggested that perhaps Budja and Panzer were a scumteam. Budja was lynched and turned out to be a mafia cop. In his first post D4, Panzer claimed scum with Budja and declared veerus to be confirmed town; the only way I can see this as true is if Budja told him in their QT/PMs that when he investigated veerus, he came up town. Panzer suggested that beta mafia is probably Percy and malthusis; Seraphim claimed; Panzer was lynched, bringing me back into the game. Seraphim said that multiple dead players have told him Percy's beta mafia, and malt claimed an untargetable role with a power that he doesn't know the result of.

So if Seraphim is to be believed, Percy is scum, probably with veerus, but potentially with me or Malt. If Panzer is to be believed, veerus is confirmed town, Seraphim is almost certainly town and Percy is scum (either with me or Malt) - but I haven't seen anyone else say veerus is town, and Panzer didn't say anything to back it up.

Potential scum teams and their endorsers, then:
Percy+malthusis (Ser, Panzer)
Percy+ToD (Ser, Panzer)
Percy+veerus (Ser)
veerus+ToD (DGB)
veerus+malthusis (DGB)
ToD+malthusis (DGB)

Of note: veerus and I are the only players who have yet to claim. I'll claim if people want me to (DGB, am I sensing a request?), and I want to hear veerus claim (not that that's likely to happen, seeing as he'll be V/LA for a while). I'd kinda like to know who malthusis has targeted so far, too, but it's not a big deal.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:56 am

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Percy wrote:We don't know why you brought back DGB, rather than another player.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:54 pm

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Percy wrote:We don't know why you brought back DGB, rather than another player.
Actually, thinking about it, it makes perfect sense. After all, ortolan, Budja and Panzer have already lost, so they have no incentive to contribute, to scumhunt, or to do anything to advance a particular faction's chances of winning.

The only dead townies are DGB, zwet and roffman. forbiddanlight seems to still be participating. I wouldn't bring zwet back if I were in Seraphim's shoes, and I don't know anything about how good of a player roffman is or isn't. (Does anyone else have experience with him?) So given a choice between roffman and DGB, I'd pick DGB as the one to bring back.

Speaking of DGB, since I haven't outright responded to these posts yet: (Double post merged into one, here.)
DrippingGoofball wrote:I read the scum's posts.

I'd say the living scum is between veerus and Trumpet of Doom, with a smaller probability for malthusis.

It's quite clear that the scum made a pact of never mentioning each other.

Trumpet of Doom never mentioned the other two scumbags.

malthusis and veerus mentioned the scumbags liberally.

I say the scum is ToD, how 'bout that?
First off, did you miss the part where the mod said that Budja's/Panzer's scumteam is no more, and that there are two remaining mafiosi? So if I'm scum, I'm with one of the other four players, not the two dead mafia.

Second, where do you get the "scum made a pact of never mentioning each other" bit? Budja and Panzer definitely broke that D3, if not earlier, and it doesn't hold up if I'm scum with Budja, either (which I'm already confirmed not to be - see above). If I didn't know you were (a) confirmed town and (b) already dead, I'd be voting you now.

Final comment to DGB, since apparently I'm very good at hiding content in the middle of paragraphs where people aren't likely to see it:
I wrote:DGB, am I sensing a request [for me to claim]?
Also, upon rereading:
I wrote:If Panzer is to be believed, veerus is confirmed town, Seraphim is almost certainly town and Percy is scum (either with me or Malt) -
but I haven't seen anyone else say veerus is town
, and Panzer didn't say anything to back it up.
Oops, my bad. (I know I'm nearsighted, I didn't know I'm blind. :roll: ) But I don't like the way Percy phrased that part of his post - "I'm happy to accept" could be (mis?)interpreted as "if people want to think my scumpartner's confirmed town, fine by me, since it means he won't be lynched."

Also, reading back, I noticed veerus's hammer D2 - I'd think it takes more of a case to hammer than merely to vote, and certainly to hammer without a claim. veerus failed to provide an especially compelling case for why zwet was scummy enough to need to be hammered sans claim.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:28 am

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ToD is still alive?
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:18 pm

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@DGB: Why would you think he was dead, after identifying him as a scum suspect earlier?

Also, why did you just ignore Trumpet's questions?


@Seraphim: There is one detail that is missing from your claim that I think is the most important one - what calamity did we supposedly avoid by lynching you on Day 1? It seems that you got to come back on Day 4, and bring someone with you, but you did make it very that it was imperative that we lynch you early:
Seraphim wrote:From my role information, killing me before day 4 will be really good for the town.
Or was there no calamity, simply that you could talk to dead people and the ability switches off on Day 4?

I also note some serious backtracking. You said:
Seraphim wrote:Percy is Beta scum. I have this confirmed from several sources.
When I asked for info, you said:
Seraphim wrote:I could give you more info but I think that you're scum especially since you're firing all your effort in discrediting me rather than scum-hunting.
This seems more bizarre, the more I think about it. You say you have me as
confirmed scum
, then say you don't want to say
why
I'm confirmed scum because I'm "discrediting" you, which is scummy behaviour...? Am I confirmed scum, or not? Your confidence does not support your claims.

I am reluctant to give Seraphim a free ride on what he claimed happened. But even if I did say "he made a mistake, it's OK" then his subsequent attitudes and posting style make me think he's scum.
FoS: Seraphim
(regular FoS, btw).



I would like a Trumpet and veerus claim, it being LYLO and all.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:36 pm

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Percy wrote:@DGB: Why would you think he was dead, after identifying him as a scum suspect earlier?.
I'm just surprised that he hasn't been lynched yet.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:15 pm

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All right. Since someone's outright asked for it:

Claim:
I am Kyon, Presumably Vanilla Townie. As far as I know, I don't do anything (yet. I'd guess that if malthusis isn't lying, he should target me and see what happens.), and I haven't tried to use any ability I might have on anyone.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:17 pm

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Use it on me.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:37 am

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Use it on me.
You aren't technically in the game, so I don't think powers will work on you (plus, we already know you're town anyways). I think I'll use it on Kyon(ToD) at this night.

Getting back to lynching, I think we should just lynch Percy and be done with it and hope something good happens tonight.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:14 pm

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Mod: I am sorry, but I will have to replaced Apr.10


I really want this game to pick up again, so why don't we just restate who are #1 lynch target right now?

I want to lynch Percy since he's obviously scum from what he's said. Even though this will put him at L-1, I feel safe enough to
Vote: Percy


Mod: could you also prod Seraphim?
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:46 pm

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"I adjusted my gaze away from the face of the time traveler of similar origin as Asahina-san – the face that would not be able to bring any benefit to my eyes no matter how I look at it.

"Make this short and simple."

I tried to sound as serious as possible. But all I got in return is a cold laugh from the time traveler. How infuriating.

"Why don't you give us your name first?"

If you remained as an anonymous time traveler guy all the time, my perception of you would only become worse.

Facing my second round of staring attacks, the guy with the face full of sarcastic expressions produced a voice that I had awaited for two months.

"Names are just a sign of acquaintance."

That ridiculing tone is no different from the one in my memory. He shifted his body for a bit, seemingly uneasy.

"I don't mind whatever you all call me. There is no purpose to that at all. That is just like you people changing Asahina Mikuru to Asahina Michiru. Totally pointless."

What a lover for negative sentences. I should have given my sister a ticket of approval and let her come along. Just a sentence or two from this guy is enough to bring one's emotions to the bottom of the pit. And how could Asahina-san be pointless?

"Although you said that." Sasaki said to that fellow. "At this time and age, even if it isn't a real name, a salutation would help to make things easier. Even a governmental position or a status, for an ancient Japanese imperial guard or a governmental representative, that kind will do. Just tell Kyon."

"Fujiwara."

The time traveler unexpectedly replied."
- The Dissociation of Haruhi Suzumiya

Veerus's V/LA is noted. Prodding Seraphim. You have one day to convince me not to fail you on the deadline review. - Tar


The Count of Monte Cristo:

Town: 3

Alpha Mafia: 0

Beta Mafia: 2

Serial Killer: 0


The Nineteenth Vote Count (aka the "Which of These Gods Is the Same as the Other" Vote Count)


1) Seraphim (0)
2) malthusis (0)
6) veerus (0)
9) Percy (2) - veerus, malthusis
10) Trumpet of Doom (0)

Not Voting (3): Seraphim, Percy, Trumpet of Doom

Votes required to lynch: 3


FoS Count


1) Seraphim (1) - Percy
2) malthusis (0)
6) veerus (0)
9) Percy (0)
10) Trumpet of Doom (0)

Not FoSing (5): Seraphim, malthusis, veerus, Trumpet of Doom

Current Deadline:
April 8, 2009 at ~6:00 CST (GMT -6)
First Mod Deadline Review:
April 1, 2009 at ~6:00 CST (GMT -6)
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:50 pm

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Not sure what to think. We have some time so I'm going to read back and post my thoughts tomorrow.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:51 pm

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Uh...

did you ignore my post?
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:52 pm

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Did you see mine?
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:52 pm

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EBWOP:

Talking to mod.

I'll deal with replacing you when it reaches April 10 or when you ask for immediate replacement, whichever comes first. - Tar
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:52 pm

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I'm not ignoring it, just putting it off until I can think.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:54 pm

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Major simul-post :)
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:54 pm

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Oh, sorry, thought you were talking to me. Simulpost go go go!
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