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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:13 pm

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I apologize for not being available the last couple of days. Now to go back a little bit...

Bogre wrote:Yesss. Seee, your speculation came without any previous information that we now have. Info that SCUM would have had yesterday.
Well, according to Encarta Dictionary a speculation is:
a conclusion, theory, or opinion based on incomplete facts or information. Based on the info I saw, I "speculated" that Kdub was a 3rd party role.


AlmasterGM wrote:Here's a list of people that I think can die right now, in no particular order:

JasonT
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Nachomamma
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Asside from my lack of recent posting, any other reasons why I should die?

I agree with Jason's couple of vote hopping, but about what Kast wrote, is there any site that can validate this? I remember the star wars wiki, but I can't find it. I'm sure it'll say stuff about Thrakan Sal-Solo so I'll try to research some more on him.

Vote Snow_Bunny

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jasonT1981 wrote:Well I can tell you I am not sum aligned and not evil in this game, I don't know that much about Star Wars, im more a Trek fan, ive seen the movies and that's it... I don't even think my character was in the movies.
Hmm... So, you're saying you're third party, right? Well, you say "I'm not scum" rather than "I'm town". I'd prefer to lynch scum, but third party is good too.

Vote:Jason
True, as town we need to eliminate all of the threats whether it's scum or something else, but I'm failing to see how what he said is a claim as a thrid party role.

Snow_Bunny wrote:You see, I first check all my games, and then, if I have time left, decide to post.

Right now, there's the conflict between the neighbours/masons and Jason. So far, after some thinking, I'm inclined towards Jason, as the neighbours' claim was a bit shaky (one claiming neighbour, the other mason :/). Also, I'd rather lose a claimed neighbour than a cop. For now, let's say I misunderstood his post where I pointed out he could be "third party."

But, wait, if Jason has a confirmed town on Nacho, it would be better if we lynch his pair. So Unvote, vote: cat


I don't get this post. You first go on to say that you are leaning towards Jason, then you shift towards cat. What do you mean by "For now, let's say I misunderstood his post..."?
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:26 pm

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Phantom, I DID link to the wiki on Thracken Sal-Solo.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:08 am

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PHANTOM wrote:
Vote Snow_Bunny

Snow_Bunny wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:Well I can tell you I am not sum aligned and not evil in this game, I don't know that much about Star Wars, im more a Trek fan, ive seen the movies and that's it... I don't even think my character was in the movies.
Hmm... So, you're saying you're third party, right? Well, you say "I'm not scum" rather than "I'm town". I'd prefer to lynch scum, but third party is good too.

Vote:Jason
True, as town we need to eliminate all of the threats whether it's scum or something else, but I'm failing to see how what he said is a claim as a thrid party role.
*sigh* As I said, he said "I can tell you I am not sum aligned", rather than "I'm town." It sounded like he wasn't either of them, and thus third party.

Snow_Bunny wrote:You see, I first check all my games, and then, if I have time left, decide to post.

Right now, there's the conflict between the neighbours/masons and Jason. So far, after some thinking, I'm inclined towards Jason, as the neighbours' claim was a bit shaky (one claiming neighbour, the other mason :/). Also, I'd rather lose a claimed neighbour than a cop. For now, let's say I misunderstood his post where I pointed out he could be "third party."

But, wait, if Jason has a confirmed town on Nacho, it would be better if we lynch his pair. So Unvote, vote: cat


I don't get this post. You first go on to say that you are leaning towards Jason, then you shift towards cat. What do you mean by "For now, let's say I misunderstood his post..."?[/quote]

I'm leaning towards BELIEVING Jason. And misunderstood the post about the "I'm not scum aligned" (aka, the previous post ^).
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:27 am

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Alamaster, what complications are you talking about?
Cop sanity, neighbors =/= masons, nightkill complications, weird role setups, etc ... any time you lynch someone else to determine the identity of someone else to determine the identity of someone else, you're in for bad times.
Kast wrote:However, one thing to keep in mind, if NM8 is Dur Gejjen, then it is possible that he is in league with JT, and their play could be an elaborate bus.
And this would make perfect sense given all the information we have now.

I still think Nachomamma is the best lynch for today. If he's scum, we know Jason is either lying or has no useful police powers. If he's town, Jason isn't cleared per-se, but we do have to evaluate why he would lie about being a cop in order to save a townie. However, I'm definitely not a Jason fan, especially given his name-claim, and if the day progresses far enough, I'll move my vote to him.

I also agree with Zach's feelings on Snow_Bunny, but I think we should resolve the Jason/Nacho situation first.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:26 am

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Concerning votecount.
Isn't Snow_bunny actually voting for Cateration, and Kast for Jason?
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:52 am

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Vote Count:
JasonT1981(4) - cateraction, Nachomamma8, D3x, Kast
Nachomamma8(2) - AlmasterGM, Bogre
Cateraction(2) - JastonT1981, Snow_Bunny
Snow_Bunny(1) - Zachrulez
Not Voting(1): PHANTOM

@all: Please use actual names when voting(i.e. not cat or JT)
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:26 pm

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AlmasterGM wrote:
Alamaster, what complications are you talking about?
I still think Nachomamma is the best lynch for today. If he's scum, we know Jason is either lying or has no useful police powers. If he's town, Jason isn't cleared per-se, but we do have to evaluate why he would lie about being a cop in order to save a townie. However, I'm definitely not a Jason fan, especially given his name-claim, and if the day progresses far enough, I'll move my vote to him.

I also agree with Zach's feelings on Snow_Bunny, but I think we should resolve the Jason/Nacho situation first.
If I flip scum, Jason could be insane or naive or lying. If I flip town, he could be sane or naive or lying. Or did you conviniently forget that cops sanities aren't a given?
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:58 pm

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Why isn't Jason dead yet? He's not town aligned. Why are we talking about lynching anyone else today?
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:07 pm

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Good point.

I guess there is a chance Nachomamma is a good guy.

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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:15 pm

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In the second day, there were questions asked, and some questions answered...

there was some logic, and there was some chaos...

but at the end of the day, the town reached a consensus. JasonT1981 gave the town pause with his claim of Thracken Sal Solo, and in the end, they decided that he was too dangerous to be kept alive. They executed him with warning and allowed him to say his last words, which was more courtesy than he allowed many of his political enemies.

However, they found out that despite his previous behavior, he was in fact a member of the town, and in fact was a cop as he had claimed.

Night began, would the town be as lucky as they were the previous night?



JasonT1981, Thracken Sal-Solo,
Town ??? Cop
was lynched day 2.


note: There WAS actually a vote count error(seperate from the vote count below), d3x did not vote JasonT1981. I have discussed the issue with other mods, and decided that since JT was only one vote from lynch, it is best to continue the game. Please submit your night actions as normal, if there are any concerns please PM me.


Vote Count:
With 10 alive, 6 required to lynch
Vote Count:
JasonT1981(5) - cateraction, Nachomamma8, D3x, Kast, Bogre
Nachomamma8(1) - AlmasterGM
Cateraction(2) - JastonT1981, Snow_Bunny
Snow_Bunny(2) - Zachrulez, PHANTOM


It is now night, you have 72 hours to submit your night actions. The deadline is Friday, November 27th.
Yes, the vote count is correct and yes it is night.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:48 am

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Wheras the first night resulted in no bloodshed, the town would not be so lucky on the second night...

Upon getting out of bed, the town was shocked to find 3 dead bodies before them...

The first was Tahiri, the late Anakin Solo's girlfriend, who was found shot in the back with a blaster...

The second was Zekk, a Jedi long known to be pursuing Jaina Solo, he was found to be hit with two seperate blaster shots...

The third was the Jedi Grand Master himself, Luke Skywalker, who was strangled in his sleep.

The town mourned the new dead, but new they must be vigilant about their resolve to win the day...

It is now day 3, with 6 alive, it requires 4 to lynch.

Deadline is December 8th, 2009.


NOTE: D3x did not vote for JasonT day 2, and thus JasonT should not technically have been lynched. This was a 100% mod error and oversight, which I apologize for. I discussed it with a couple of other mods, and everyone agreed that since it was only one vote off, it should not break the game(the likelyhood of Jason being lynched anyway was high). The 5 players(instead of 6) required to lynch that day was correct. The night action results also confirm the likelyhood of Jason being lynched. Therefore the game will continue as normal. If anyone has any objections to this please let me know via pm.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:08 am

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Hrmmm, it looks like we've got sanity issues from the cops: Town ??? Cop makes me think the blank could have insane or naive, etc.

Almaster's roleblock (and no night kills), and the 4 kills(assuming 1 blaster shot was one kill shot) yesterday makes me think it even more likely Nacho is scum.

Also still think Phantom is scum.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:07 am

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@Bogre- Could you give me some specifics as to why you think PHANTOM is Scum?
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:32 am

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d3x wrote:@Bogre- Could you give me some specifics as to why you think PHANTOM is Scum?
Reasons I gave yesterday. His response didn't seem seem exceptionally clearing to him. Also, he's still alive, increasing likelihood of him being scum.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:15 pm

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Bogre wrote:Hrmmm, it looks like we've got sanity issues from the cops: Town ??? Cop makes me think the blank could have insane or naive, etc.

Almaster's roleblock (and no night kills), and the 4 kills(assuming 1 blaster shot was one kill shot) yesterday makes me think it even more likely Nacho is scum.

Also still think Phantom is scum.
I have to agree with your first point, but obviously, I have a few problems with your second.

What makes you think that one of the blaster shots was a one-kill shot, and why does the four kills make me more likely to be scum?

As for your third point, I'm more inclined to see Snow_Bunny as scum.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:51 pm

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Nacho... I don't know how to tell you this, but Snow_Bunny's... dead.

She can't be Scum because...
The Mod wrote:
Snow_Bunny - Zekk, Town Enabler(To Jaina Solo), Killed Night 2
Regarding your second point...
The Mod wrote:The first was Tahiri, the late Anakin Solo's girlfriend, who was found
shot in the back with a blaster
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The second was Zekk, a Jedi long known to be pursuing Jaina Solo, he was found to be
hit with two seperate blaster shots
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:14 pm

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^Nacho, that.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:40 pm

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Protip: Always check the first post if you don't fully understand who died in the night.

And as for the second point... you're suggesting that Alamaster was killed by a one-shot vigilante based on flavor, or that Snow Bunny was?
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:40 pm

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Protip: Always check the first post if you don't fully understand who died in the night.

And as for the second point... you're suggesting that Alamaster was killed by a one-shot vigilante based on flavor, or that Snow Bunny was?
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:40 pm

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Protip: Always check the first post if you don't fully understand who died in the night.

And as for the second point... you're suggesting that Alamaster was killed by a one-shot vigilante based on flavor, or that Snow Bunny was?
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:30 pm

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I'm not suggesting anything. I think speculation on Night Actions usually ends up in a bad place.

In p364, you asked...
What makes you think that one of the blaster shots was a one-kill shot
It would stand to reason that if it only took a single shot to kill one player, a dead body with 2 seperate blaster shots was targetted twice, hence Bogre's theory on 4 NKs.

Why did you bring up a One-Shot Vig in p367-369 {lol}? How did me quoting the Mod look like I was suggesting anything?

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@Bogre- Please restate your case on PHANTOM. I'm having a hard time of it as your posts are pretty vague {hint- quotes help}. You're accusing him of not contributing. Is that it?
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:16 am

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@Dex.

Pretty much being noncontributory, not answering and scumhunting very well. Could be pretty null but still a feeling he's more likely scum than down.

I am more ready to see Nacho be lynched, though.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:24 am

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The way Jason flipped and the fact that one of us didn't die over night makes me willing to consider Nacho as scum.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:28 pm

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Bogre wrote:Also, he's still alive, increasing likelihood of him being scum.
Same with everyone else.
Bogre wrote:@Dex.

Pretty much being noncontributory, not answering and scumhunting very well. Could be pretty null but still a feeling he's more likely scum than down.

I am more ready to see Nacho be lynched, though.
Well here's something to note. Yesterday, including the mods error, 5 people voted Jason when 6 votes were required. That means either cat, nacho, d3x, kast, or bogre have a double vote count. However, I seem to think that d3x doesn't have the double vote count ability because of the mod saying that without his vote, Jason would be one vote off. Now if there are 2 scum left in the game, and they don't have that double vote count, then one wrong move could be the end of the game.

I'm confused about what a skitzo is. The wiki says that he's never mafia, so does that mean that AlmasterGM was just a townie?
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:23 am

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Why did you bring up a One-Shot Vig in p367-369 {lol}? How did me quoting the Mod look like I was suggesting anything?
Because you answered Bogre's question for him, I assumed that you agreed with this:
Bogre wrote: assuming 1 blaster shot was one kill shot
Which I take as he was assuming one shot vig.
I'm confused about what a skitzo is. The wiki says that he's never mafia, so does that mean that AlmasterGM was just a townie?
Because he was town and claimed roleblocker, I don't think he had reason to lie.
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