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Benmage wrote: I’m gonna give you the opportunity here to tuck your tail between your legs and walk away…do not talk to me again, unless I talk to you first.

@I doubt it: Annnnnnnddd, why do you find it scummy? That sounds like pure OMGUSing.

Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:@I doubt it: Annnnnnnddd, why do you find it scummy? That sounds like pure OMGUSing.

I doubt it wrote:Benmage: Looking at his posts in ISO, it's a whole load of setup speculation, role fishing and discussion about raising, plus other fluff posts, but very little scumhunting. Who's scum besides Drippereth?

Plus, what reason would he have to threaten me like that when all I did was ask a simple question? He's scum.

Just want to make this clear to everyone. I am not defending Benmage, I am just trying to find faults with I doubt it's case on Benmage.

I doubt it wrote:Benmage: Looking at his posts in ISO,

it's a whole load of setup speculation

,

role fishing

and

discussion about raising

, plus other fluff posts, but

very little scumhunting.

Who's scum besides Drippereth?

Your case on Benmage is overall, poorly executed. There are good cases and bad cases and you've just made a bad one. Scummy one even.

Drippereth wrote:

vezopiraka wrote:

Kleedrac wrote:Just in case I'm wrong does anyone have a descent case on Richard? I read him and didn't find him scummy so much as dumb-town. Am I wrong? All of the cases against him lack substance beyond-the-meta.

Well it was this post

Exactly. Kleedrac is a horrible, horrible lurker and needs to die for the lurking alone. However, to pop up his head late in the wagon and declare a pretty strong town read on Richard, when he hasn't taken a stand on anything, smells like a scum that wants to evade detection, AND wash his hands of a townie lynch. He's not looking for scum at all, but he's showing up to announce his staying off the wagon. That's easy and safe when you know you the townies are.

DIE SCUM DIE

Ahhh, first of all where the heck do I say anything about a town read on anyone?!?! As far as I'm concerned you're all scum atm. What I said was that I read Richard and didn't find anything lynch-worthy and didn't understand the bandwagon that formed to take his head off. I also read through CryMeARiver and pointed out several things that were lynch-worthy without being answered. I'm lurking because this is my first game with this many people and quite frankly I feel a bit overwhelmed when every time I check in the thread has grown by a page full of Wall'o'text posts. I shall try to do better in the lurking department and I do take responsibility that this probably looks scummy (though I'm not the only one as pointed out by The New York Lurker Report (TM) .) As for your 'case' first you claim my alignment is linked to Richard (with no justification or reasoning whatsoever) and then claim I'm scummier (again with no reasoning or justification beyond my lurking which we've already discussed.) All this leads me to wonder about your own alignment sir? You seem to have adopted not only hydra heads but also a spaghetti case syndrome where you're throwing accusations at everything in site save the damned mod! If you're going to lead a bandwagon, at least have the decency to build a good case for it

Kleedrac wrote:I'm lurking because this is my first game with this many people and quite frankly I feel a bit overwhelmed when every time I check in the thread has grown by a page full of Wall'o'text posts.

Your case on CryMeARiver was basically a Wall Of Text, so that makes you kind of hypocritical.

Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:Your case on Benmage is overall, poorly executed. There are good cases and bad cases and you've just made a bad one. Scummy one even.

Good solid work, SuperSmash.

I will add that Benmage's in-game persona is not, erm, likable. When attempting to evaluate his alignment, it's important to sort out whether you have a visceral reaction, or whether he's actually scummy. I have played with him before, and as of now, Benmage is par for the course. The brain module that stops him from making scummy post is not functional, possibly much like RichardGHP's

Kleedrac wrote:Ahhh, first of all where the heck do I say anything about a town read on anyone?!?! As far as I'm concerned you're all scum atm. What I said was that I read Richard and didn't find anything lynch-worthy and didn't understand the bandwagon that formed to take his head off.

Is that not a town read? "Not lynchworthy?"

Kleedrac wrote:I also read through CryMeARiver and pointed out several things that were lynch-worthy without being answered.

Mmmm... distancing?

Kleedrac wrote:I'm lurking because...

because you are scum.

Kleedrac wrote:As for your 'case' first you claim my alignment is linked to Richard (with no justification or reasoning whatsoever)

I did post the reasoning. I repeat, in GREEN: If he's scum... well no scum would defend his scumpal in such a way, that would make you town.

I will ignore the accusations of being a plate of spaghetti.

Kleedrac wrote:Ahhh, first of all where the heck do I say anything about a town read on anyone?!?! As far as I'm concerned you're all scum atm.

Orly?

What I said was that I read Richard and didn't find anything lynch-worthy and didn't understand the bandwagon that formed to take his head off. I also read through CryMeARiver and pointed out several things that were lynch-worthy without being answered. I'm lurking because this is my first game with this many people and quite frankly I feel a bit overwhelmed when every time I check in the thread has grown by a page full of Wall'o'text posts.

There are so many problems with this I don't even know where to begin. All told there where a good 3 or 4 unique scummy things that stood out from Richard's play, you didn't understand/agree with a single one? I also don't give a hoot why you are lurking, but it aint cool. Lastly, the idea that the game is an overabundance of wall-o-text posts is absurd. There are tons of small posts. Within the last 10 posts before yours there are 8 posts that are small. The idea that this game is full of wall-o-text posts is completely false. Do you want me to count the number of one line posts in this game? Cause I will.

I shall try to do better in the lurking department and I do take responsibility that this probably looks scummy (though I'm not the only one as pointed out by The New York Lurker Report (TM) .) As for your 'case' first you claim my alignment is linked to Richard (with no justification or reasoning whatsoever) and then claim I'm scummier (again with no reasoning or justification beyond my lurking which we've already discussed.) All this leads me to wonder about your own alignment sir? You seem to have adopted not only hydra heads but also a spaghetti case syndrome where you're throwing accusations at everything in site save the damned mod! If you're going to lead a bandwagon, at least have the decency to build a good case for it

This is a completely inaccurate account of Dripp's play. Dripp's votes and accusations have been pointed towards a handful of players, and certainly not everyone in the thread. Hell, Dripp even posts frequent lists where they identify their town reads, and its a good half dozen or so. This defense of yours also reads as AtE with a small amount of OMGUS towards Dripp. This post is really scummy.

Drippereth wrote:

Kleedrac wrote:Ahhh, first of all where the heck do I say anything about a town read on anyone?!?! As far as I'm concerned you're all scum atm. What I said was that I read Richard and didn't find anything lynch-worthy and didn't understand the bandwagon that formed to take his head off.

Is that not a town read? "Not lynchworthy?"

No it's not a town read it's a not-as-scummy-as-CMAR-read

Douchereth wrote:

Kleedrac wrote:I also read through CryMeARiver and pointed out several things that were lynch-worthy without being answered.

Mmmm... distancing?

Mmmmm...bad logic?

Douchereth wrote:

Kleedrac wrote:I'm lurking because...

because you are scum.

Thank-you for reading you annnoying jerk

Douchereth wrote:

Kleedrac wrote:As for your 'case' first you claim my alignment is linked to Richard (with no justification or reasoning whatsoever)

I did post the reasoning. I repeat, in GREEN:

However, to pop up his head late in the wagon and declare a pretty strong town read on Richard, when he hasn't taken a stand on anything, smells like a scum that wants to evade detection, AND wash his hands of a townie lynch. He's not looking for scum at all, but he's showing up to announce his staying off the wagon. That's easy and safe when you know you the townies are.

In other words, if Richard is town, you KNOW he's town, because you're scum.

If he's scum... well no scum would defend his scumpal in such a way, that would make you town.

You really need to study this thing called logic as you abuse it to the point I think it has a restraining order on you

Douchereth wrote:I will ignore the accusations of being a plate of spaghetti.

Of course you will because you have no defense

Kleedrac wrote:Ahhh, first of all where the heck do I say anything about a town read on anyone?!?! As far as I'm concerned you're all scum atm.

First off, you contradicted yourself. In ISO: 3, you wanted to see if we had a decent case on RichardGHP. If you don't think there's a decent case on RichardGHP, it means you think he's town or at the very least, a null read. Then you took back this statement in ISO: 5 by saying everyone was scum and you never said anyone had a town read.

Secondly, the "Everyone is scum!" mentality is dangerous. It is very anti-town, indicating that you play only for your survival and not for the town. Saying that everyone is scum without explaining your reasons is not going to help you in the long run.

Looking back at ISO: 2, I realized that you've been parroting a bit and deniding the usefulness and benefit of a RichardGHP bandwagon.

Kleedrac's Post #360 is basically a huge "NO U!" response to Drippereth, Very poorly thoughout and it makes me wonder if he actually checks his posts before posting. Congratulation, you are now offiically one of my top three suspects.

Scum List:

1st: Migwelloni
2nd: vezopiraka
3rd: Kleedrac
4th: RichardGHP
5th: animorpherv1
6th: CryMeARiver
7th: Mikujin

Switch Mikujin with I doubt it.

Drippereth wrote: I will add that Benmage's in-game persona is not, erm, likable.

Wait what.... I have this terrible pet peeve against stupidity.

Drippereth wrote: The brain module that stops him from making scummy post is not functional, possibly much like RichardGHP's

Pffttbb baddd association. Arrogant, fine. Dick...sure. Scummy, now thats where I draw the line!

*Sigh, I warned him... i'll be back later to deal.

1. If RichardGHP were to flip scum, that would establish a connection between you and RichardGHP because you unvoted him just so he could claim.

2. Even if RichardGHP was kept at L-1, people would be smart to look at the latest vote count anyway and he would have probably claimed anyway. Thus, we would have gotten the exact same result. He did not need your help by taking him off L-1.

3. That sounds like a nice big OMGUS vote on me. Your case on me is not very good and you're voting me based off disagreements, not on scummy behavior.

1. This doesn't explain why you find my doing it scummy. This only says "If he flips scum" (which btw, is pretty much impossible) "you're scum"
2. You don't understand. This is what TOWNIES would do if someone was at L-1. SCUM would just hammer him into oblivion, which is why I took away my vote. And if he didn't need my help, why is it scummy that I gave it to him?
3. It's not an OMGUS because you're not voting for me, and it's not just disagreement because your opinions on my actions are inherently scummy.
for reasons already mentioned by others. I will iso him and see if I find anything of value myself.

As far as I'm concerned you're all scum atm.

? Everyone is scum? That's news to me.

You seem to have adopted not only hydra heads but also a spaghetti case syndrome where you're throwing accusations at everything in site save the damned mod!

I really don't see this at all. Kleedrac is exaggerating a lot of stuff, and it's beginning to look like flailing to me.
That's about all I could find. I get a gut read of scum on Kleedrac, but since I haven't played with him before, I have no idea if it's enough to merit a vote.

I'm here, I just don't check MS as often as my other concurrent game so I haven't thought about the game in a while. I'll read over the thread and have a post soon.

? Everyone is scum? That's news to me.

Until proven town, yes. I find it's a safer assumption than to assume all are town until proven scum

Kleedrac is hilarious and he cheers up my cold, dark, brooding heart. I think on some level I enjoy being referred to as a douche, when done for the purposes of comedy. It's too bad he's scum and we have to lynch him.

Drippereth wrote:Kleedrac is hilarious and he cheers up my cold, dark, brooding heart. I think on some level I enjoy being referred to as a douche, when done for the purposes of comedy. It's too bad he's scum and we have to lynch him.

Douchebags get a bad rap. We provide a useful service to the community.

@Mikujin: Just wow. I was honestly hoping that you were going to actually produce some contents. Instead, you basically said this:

"Doucebags like us should get more respect."

That's border-lining RVS comment and we've already gotten them. Your comeback was downright pathetic.

danakillsu wrote:

As far as I'm concerned you're all scum atm.

? Everyone is scum? That's news to me.

You seem to have adopted not only hydra heads but also a spaghetti case syndrome where you're throwing accusations at everything in site save the damned mod!

I really don't see this at all. Kleedrac is exaggerating a lot of stuff, and it's beginning to look like flailing to me.
That's about all I could find.

I get a gut read of scum on Kleedrac, but since I haven't played with him before, I have no idea if it's enough to merit a vote.

Wouldn't it be better for everyone if you stopped pretending to be a newbie?