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not saying i don't

I don't usually give people breaks based purely on their age.

TheLonging wrote:HEY

HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS THING

WHERE YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR READS ON PEOPLE

DEPENDING ON HOW THEY POST AND PLAY?

Sure, I've heard of it. I don't see much evidence of it in your posts, though.

furc: WELL YOUR RONG BICAUS IM TOWN SO YOUR NOT AND YOUR WRONG.

First of all, wtf 8 pages of posts since this morning. I briefly scanned the pissing match of who is VI and who is not VI, who is better at mafia than whom; but now am going back to read more closely but I hope to god every eventually puts their dicks back in their pants and puts the tape measure away.

Animorph's 74 and Furclow's 77 strike me as very opportunistic, being that after asking to be replaced goes ahead and votes under the pretext of "we all want to know." Odds are the Seraphim wagon will disintegrate after asking for replacement.

Prozac's 75 - I couldn't agree more. I also have to say that I enjoy playing with vezok. Sure he's frustrating sometimes but I really enjoy vastly different play styles as it adds another element to the game.

Furclow's 78 - fake scumhunting? The game has been open less than 8 hours and you are already calling people out for not posting? What about Andrius, ooba, and Yosarian2? None of them had posted at the time of your post, especially since this was your second (immediately consecutive) post of the game...

Furcolow, 82 wrote:I feel like he would do that as scum.

Why would he do that as scum?

Animorph 84 - What's the policy lynch he's pushing? Lynch all people who replace out?

Furclow 99 - oh okay. You're town. In that case...

Friend and Faraday - why is Seraphim town? What evidence do you have for such a strong opinion?

Vezok 129 - aren't brother and scum the same thing?

Reaper 145 - best post of the game, at least in terms of fun and character. Props for the awesome picture.

Furcolow 149 - you can provide the off site games, but don't. Please do.

Friend 184 - so it's impossible to do a meta analysis having not actually been in a game with you?

Furcolow, 191 wrote:I'd prefer to lynch a lurker than a liar if the liar is lying like I'm lying

Um... seriously... wtf?

gandalf 219 - Thanks for the contribution to all the actual posts looking for scum. You're not going to like me because I love quote stripes and love presenting relevant cases with them.

animoprh 237 - never? I think you can find scum in four posts. Or is it the first four posts of the game only?

gandalf5166, 254 wrote:I only just popped in, dude. And I dislike wall o text cases. Save those for the newbie games. Seriously, I can't imagine why anyone would NOT vote for FC.

You have now popped in several times and not said a damn thing. Maybe one of these times you'll actually contribute something?

Faraday 286 - it seems to me that with two brothers there are two scum groups, so we can't necessarily exclude people from being scum based on scum hunting.

Friend 290 - overwhelming gut as a reason is terrible in this instance; especially when you backpedal and say you hate to admit it.

zwet 308 - second best post of the game, in terms of pure humor.

Furcolow, 321 wrote:No, I am town because of the role pm I got saying so, but whatever floats your boat.

Would you stop saying "furc is town" over and over, though? If you feel it, hold it in, unless it is necessary, or if I'm being threatened.

Neither of those is happening right now. I love the way you're defending me, but it is coming across as scummy even to me, and I'm the one you're defending.

This is especially funny coming from you, who uses every possible opportunity to claim you are town; including this very post, which does not fall into the categories you just listed.

Summing up, I think competing bandwagons on gandalf and friend would be the best course of action right now.



xvart.

@xvart:

Post 84, I was not lynching Seraphim because he was replacing out. it is a valid reason, IMO.

Post 237, I was telling Furc that you can't decide if someone is scum based on four posts.

@Gandalf: were you unable to tell from Furcolow's posting that he had a VI-type meta?

Well here's the thing

I don't need to explicitly state it in every post

I'd have to see what you're referring to in context, xvart

also, why do you sign your posts? it's not like we don't know they're from you

xvart wrote:Summing up, I think competing bandwagons on gandalf and friend would be the best course of action right now.

This seems like you're playing both sides of the argument against each other.

TheLonging wrote:Well here's the thing

I don't need to explicitly state it in every post

Once would be sufficient.

This volume of posts bothers me. It just makes it harder to get a read on people. All I know now is who in this game I would personally like to shove down a mine shaft. The gandalf wagon seems to be more or less equally wise as the furcolow, zwet, etc wagons. Maybe I've become an old fogey already, but it seems like you guys are obsessed with buzzwords like VI and don't actually bother with understanding the mechanics of scumhunting. At any rate, I find the Friend wagon to be just as appealing as it was, and I don't think there's any reason for me to keep with my earlier vote. His quick movement onto the gandalf wagon does not help his case in my eyes. I generally agree with Prozac about the game thus far. I don't like that vezok has disappeared from the limelight, as has the furcolow wagon. If the people that first encouraged him to claim, then tried to lynch furcolow, and are now trying to lynch gandalf are town, then we're in trouble. I think the proponents of those wagons are a good place to start.

I agree with Erg0 regarding the competing wagons theory. I don't think two wagons at once does anything except trick the town into a false dilemma.

I remember someone said hi to me, I hope you can understand my disinterest in rereading the last ten pages to find your name. Hi.

Ah yes, the important part of my post.

Scum
11. Lord Gurgi
13. Porochaz

Town
16. TheLonging
6. Faraday
9. gandalf5166
5. Erg0
17. vezokpiraka

Friend is most likely town too. Reasoning is based on
- When a particular person chose to attack another
- What topics were commented on\ignored

I'm afraid I can't follow your reasoning if you give me so little to work with. Could you elaborate?

I find that wagon just as appealing as it was.

xvart, in response to your three linked posts of mine:

1. Already talked about it.
2. No way in hell he looked up my meta
3. I disagree

So Friend, are you back on me for any reason other than me voting you? Because that's all that I've done since you moved your vote away from me.

Lord Gurgi wrote:I'm afraid I can't follow your reasoning if you give me so little to work with. Could you elaborate?

I'll have more detailed cases as the game continues but I discovered that the above is a decent heuristic for finding scum.

For example, Porochaz's P.139 - the "absolute" attack on Friend is pretty weak. He does it right after Friend says LG (and zwet) are prob. scum. Might be a chainsaw.

Well I can't force you anyway. The problem with introducing chainsaw is that I can't defend myself against your case without it being chainsaw as well. When we try to make standard something that is intrinsically contextual we inevitably fall into situations where nothing the accused does can vindicate them. I think I'll just make the point anyway that if you don't elaborate on your own cases, you shouldn't fault others for not listing their reasons exhaustively.

I know it's probably not very popular to admit this, but the one I find myself agreeing with the most is Friend.

Erg0 wrote:@Gandalf: were you

really

unable to tell from Furcolow's posting that he had a VI-type meta?

Yes, but with VIs, you have to get familiar with their meta to read them. It's how I work, man. So LINKS PLOX!!!!!!!

eh I can only use the one-shot during the night.

it will still be at gandalf

FIND A BETTER WAGON. LIKE M=W

ITT, we learn that Friend is scum.

RC <3

Gandalf...I have no words.

ooba it's fairly useless to bring up chainsaw without flips by the way

CAN WE LYNCH ME=WEIRD FASTER?