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RedPanda (2) - Hiraki, Oversoul
Oversoul (1) - Bub Bidderskins
Robocopter87 (0)
pinkfloyd (1) - Alabaska J
DemonHybrid (0)
Captain Corporal (2) - DeltaWave, DemonHybrid
Bub Bidderskins (1) - RedPanda
Alabaska J (0)
Hiraki (0)
numberQ (0)

Not Voting: Captain Corporal, Robocopter87, numberQ.

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Don't believe RedPanda is voting his/herself

Not voting and voting at the same time. Sweet.

It says RedPanda is voting Bud bidderskins too.

^^Meaning thats probably his real vote.

↑ numberQ wrote:Hey Robo? Just sayin, gut is as good a scumhunting technique as detailed arguments are. For example, my gut makes me see a chainsaw defense in your 289. There, just added another reason to why Bub is scum and told you a possible buddy, just like you wanted.

Scumteam: Bub/Robo/Chrono

When Chrono flips scum let's lynch Robo or Bub tomorrow.

No. Good is not as good. Its pretty much policy lynching. yes, gut does come in handy, but it shouldn't be your whole case.

I was not defending Bub but rather asking for a more concrete reason. As you can clearly see, I asked for a case against Bub. I asked for an ISO against Bub, I asked for reasons. I was not saying Bub was town. i was saying that he is being useless if he is just voting people with weak reasoning. I want to understand his actions. For him to explain them.

Also, chrono is town. Maybe not on your town. But on my town. The fact that he pinpointed my exact wincon is solid town read. Seeing as there is no Sample PM. Also, bub has not calimed the same wincon as us, so if me and Chrono are scum, then why would bub be with us? And if me and Chrono are scum, then why is RedPanda not on that list?

Even DH has claimed this wincon.

You need to rethink your scumteam. Four people claiming the same wincon, and me being the first.

↑ Alabaska J wrote:

↑ Robocopter87 wrote:I am here. 'More reason to fear.

Right now I see Hiraki's response to Chronopies mission. Evidently a scum slip. Catching him like this seems iffy for my standards.

Kinda sucks because he should have been told about win cons for town in a sample town PM.

So pretty much you all should be voting Hiraki. Per the current Chrono situation, I haven't totally read up yet. All of that is for later. Right now I want some sleep. Though I should be able to get something done tomorrow. No lynching anybody till I'm back, kay? Every one who does is getting mocked.

Right now is sleeptime.

VOTE: Hiraki

just noticed this (emphasis mine). there is no sample town pm, probably because the town will all have differently phrased conditions. more credence to the theory

I don't understand this. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

↑ DeltaWave wrote:

↑ Chronopie wrote:Elimination of threats to White Forest (HL2 EP2 ref)

I'm going to come right out and state that this is a legitimate town wincon because I have it too, as Robo said before I replaced him. This confirms to me that Chronopie is definitely town, since I don't see how Chronopie could pin a town wincon down to the exact wording.

On the other hand, CC's response to this (Post #273) sounds like he did not get a town wincon PM and he's trying to bluff around it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Captain Corporal

NOTE: This was my replacement. DW. His words still apply to my slot.

I agree with this, however, I am unsure whether to say its enough to call him scum. It looks bad. But I need more convincing.

↑ Hiraki wrote:Aww. Someone didn't read the rules and is complaining about it.

Caring...not.

I still like my vote.

If no one hops on, I'll make a case.

Please dont force me to do workkkk

Do the work. Make the case. IGMEOY

Oh no!

I've got an eye on someone who has previously voted me!

Will respond to RedPanda and Bub in an hour or two.

Bub, you're still acting like a hypocrite. And RedPanda, thanks for calling me stupid. Really needed that.

sorry, acted like a jerk. was just trying to be a little dramatic. i take it back.

just had a wall for redpanda.

and now it's gone.

it'll be up by tonight.

for an appetizer, you need to look at hiplop. then compare his play, and what redpanda does at the beginning of day 2.

(pssst. it's the same)

not to mention the high and awesomeness he gets.

↑ RedPanda wrote:
Im sorry i didnt see the obvious joke if it even was a joke. i saw it as a bus and i saw him change his vote immidiately after calling the first guy scum in caps.

Ok.Now do you see why I have such a gripe with your reasoning?

Bad reasoning? i dont think you would know good reasoning if it hit you. Your reasons why you think im scum are bad reasoning.

No. You are taking these posts way too seriously and you used them as ammunition against Hiplop. Admittedly I sheeped Reckoner for Haola, but that just doesn't make sense that someone calling another person scum and voting them is bad.

Seriously? i used reasoning to say why i think hiplops scum = true. my gut =

both hiplop and haoala are scum

because they kept bussing each other. wait does this mean im losing scumpoints? yay!

Your reasoning for hiplop was bad. Your other reasoning was your gut. That isn't reasoning in my opinion.

No wait this doesnt seem true. i do seem to recall me participating more than you. and hiplop was placed L-1 already by someone which is why i unvoted and placed the L-1 on haoala because i didnt like his 202. why i didnt like his 202 ? because the exact same line he used i used before against hiplop and that time he was defending hiplop.

I know you participated on Day 1 more than I did. I was on the verge of getting site banned + I am in too many games and this one kinda took the back burner especially with Reckoner saying we caught two scum.

Please clarify what line he used that you used? Because he isn't defending Hiplop in 202. He votes Hiplop in 202.

Again i voted him because he didnt know what safety was which is my wincon and i didnt think there would be different flavors for the wincons.i changed my vote immediately since it made more sense but again you only got that by post 306 which makes me wonder if your not smart or acting not smart. SCUMPOINTS to you for that my friend.

im leaning towards the not smart but ive been tricked before.

I would make a comment, but you apologized. Thank you for apologizing, though.

Bub, you are playing a reactive game instead of a proactive game. You are waiting for others to make a comment instead of making a comment yourself which to me says that you are trying to feign scumhunting by using bits and pieces of other peoeple's opinions and then altering them slightly and making them your own.

You shouldn't be worried about looking scummy or asking questions before others have made a post.

pedit: Hiraki, I don't understand that post.

RedPanda (2) - Hiraki, Oversoul
Oversoul (1) - Bub Bidderskins
Robocopter87 (0)
pinkfloyd (1) - Alabaska J
DemonHybrid (0)
Captain Corporal (2) - DeltaWave, DemonHybrid
Bub Bidderskins (1) - RedPanda
Alabaska J (0)
Hiraki (0)
numberQ (0)

Not Voting: Captain Corporal, Robocopter87, numberQ.

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

So I did.

↑ Hiraki wrote:Oh no!

I've got an eye on someone who has previously voted me!

It was actually a joke. I'm glad you picked up on it.

I want you to do something instead of continuing to make snide remarks and just overall being useless. You call people scum but don't give proper reasoning.

Too busy to do it tonight. Tomorrow for sure.

And it will put a finale on anyone's thoughts that RedPanda is town.

I assure you.

Good enough for me.

Still reading but red panda is a lyin tomato

Mmm ketchup... Imma have a hotdog now...

Oversoul wrote:Bub, you are playing a reactive game instead of a proactive game. You are waiting for others to make a comment instead of making a comment yourself which to me says that you are trying to feign scumhunting by using bits and pieces of other peoeple's opinions and then altering them slightly and making them your own.

How can I be reframing other people's opinions when I'm the only one with a vote on you at the moment? Your vote on Haola was convenient and you've posted nothing but OMGUS attacks against me and fluff against Red Panda. One of you and Red Panda is scum. There is no way that there were no scum on the tail end of the Haola wagon, and right now I'm betting it's you because of your silly attacks against Panda (who would be the other option).

↑ haoala wrote:

↑ RedPanda wrote:A random post on haoala after there were two serious votes on him? you even typed in caps SCUM. are you sure how the game works?

You've not completed any games on-site. Are you sure you know how the game works?

↑ haoala wrote:I did some rereading and 2 people stand out.

Bub

for basically contributing nothing worthy so far.

↑ Bub Bidderskins wrote:

Vote: numberQ

I agree with Hiplop. This looks like just narrating. There is no insight or opinion, it's just "oh, this what happened, and I'm not goin got give my opinions". Looks like fake scumhunting to me.

Sheeping. (Note that he hasn't done much at this point either)

↑ Bub Bidderskins wrote:No insight and no pressure. The post reeks of "hey everybody, I'm here and I'm reading the thread." Again, fake scumhunting. No honest attempt to follow up on your reads, no vote to try and gain more info and move the game forward, just nothing but useless narration that looks like an attempt to make you look like town. In my book, that's textbook fake scumhunting.

Just saying the same thing again.

↑ Bub Bidderskins wrote:Hiplop is probtown. Just is attitude and they way he carries himself is not consistent with scum.

Haola, on the other hand, is difficult for me to read. His early vote on me seems legit, and it moved discussion forward, as does his later vote on NumberQ. However, I don't like his "Lynch Hiplop Flowchart". That could just be a townie mistake, though.

Bub defending hiplop?

↑ Bub Bidderskins wrote:Yeah, I guess it does look bad, but I really don't have a strong opinion on Haola. I do think hiplop is town though, after re-reading him.

Looks to me like cautious scum who will say "I told you so" when I flip town.

hiplop

↑ hiplop wrote:

Was a RV on haoala

, i found ACTUAL SCUMMY BEHAVIOR, I lead a wagon on NumberQ. Its the way the game works.

↑ hiplop wrote:They werent SUPER SRS!

just moderately. There is a

pretty high chance haoala is scum

, but NUMBERQ is more likely.

Self contradiction. His defence against Robo's wall also seems weak to me. I get the feeling that he's trying to brush accusations aside. hiplop is also playing exactly like how scum played in another game. CC, doesn't this remind you of 80's music mafia?

My vote goes to hiplop.
VOTE: hiplop

I'm back =)
Let me get my bearings...

Response to Robo's 355: Chrono/pinkfloyd is not on my scumteam anymore, Bub still is, and you still are but less so. Third scum is probably Hiraki. His "don't give a fuck attitude" is starting to seem really forced, maybe my opinion will change when he finally gets that RedPanda post up.

↑ numberQ wrote:Response to Robo's 355: Chrono/pinkfloyd is not on my scumteam anymore, Bub still is, and you still are but less so. Third scum is probably Hiraki. His "don't give a fuck attitude" is starting to seem really forced, maybe my opinion will change when he finally gets that RedPanda post up.

What kind of response is this? You say your reads change, but you give no reasons why.

Don't just say people are scum or not as scummy. Give reasons for the change of opinion.

Still waiting on Hirakis post.

I'm really lazy.

It will be up by Monday.

Hopefully tomorrow.

Heard that before.

loljk, I've heard it mostly from myself.