D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[BBmolla]

It's k I forgive you.

There is only two things you will obtain from rereading him as town.
1) You will see if he claimed.
2) You will see if he did anything dumb.

Both will become fairly obvious by just posting in the thread.

It's become quite apparent to me, for example, that Fennin managed to do both and I didn't read a single post of his.

[WrathChild]

WC, if you were trying to respond to me in that big post, I'm not reading it until you fix those quote tags.

I have an opinion on the Peregrine "slip" and some subsequent reactions to it, but I'll wait until he answers the question about his role name to share.

Did I owe you a response on something? If I do, please restate your request, I seem to have missed it. That big post was a nightmare formatting glitch when trying to multiquote Peregrine's 13 post ISO since the reboot. I did it in a different format so you can ignore that piece of visual diarrhea.

[Kdub]

No, but I saw you were trying to quote me, so I thought you might have had something to say to me.

[Slandaar]

Kdub, WC.
do you think Magna is town?
what is your read on me?

[Slandaar]

I think we need to direct blasterfire btw.

We should all just shoot Sleepy/PV(if hes not lynched) and Elmo.
Might be good not to lynch PV and just blaster... not sure. He needs death though.

[4nxi3ty]

unvote, vote: shadow

[Shadow Dancer]

Ah... Ok I get it now... I am scum... And Magna is scum...
And hence we need to blaster focus Sleepy... And Per... And Elmo... and...

...er...

No, I actually do not get it, Slan.

Also: Please do not ignore me and answer my query about your Andrius suspicion: How is his wall post "nothing"?

@4nx: I guess that vote's for my "tone" then? Could you elaborate on that?

[Slandaar]

Whats wrong with my list SD?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Sleepykrew is an acceptable lynch for me on policy after Post 316.

Oh look, Iec has an invisible and I’m going to assume unproveable ‘punishment’ for breaking his ‘post restriction’. How quaint.

@Peregrine

– one more Prod-dodge without answering BB’s question and you get my vote. Even over obv-scum WrathChild.

@WrathChild

– should I not think you are making your cases solely on the viability of that player’s lynch not based on what you see as actual scumminess?

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Scums
MoI
Peregrine
Andrius
BBMolla (= Fennin)

And now is the point where put you on the likely scum / PEW PEW PEW list. Because I’ve played with Town Iec. Town Iec may be infuriating but he doesn’t Herp-A-Derp lurk it up and post basically non-content.

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I have an opinion on the Peregrine "slip" and some subsequent reactions to it, but I'll wait until he answers the question about his role name to share.

I eagerly await this input.

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I think we need to direct blasterfire btw.

Nope.jpg.

It’s already been explained why this is a terrible idea that benefits scum far more than Town. That said I’m not shocked to see you floating it since you are scum and all.

[sword_of_omens]

ok, continuing:
Sladaar's post#190 of WC is scum but I'll tell you why later..Almost as if he was saying WC is scum just to say it and sound townie
Magna calls him out on this (I find this very reasonable) but Slan says why do I have to? Then deflects to ShadowDancer AGAIN in #194
I like SD post #196 and #197 ..seems sincere (I'm starting to like SD)
WC with his back to back WoT is null for me, however, I am used to seeing WC more aggressive than this…I will be watching him closely.
magna's post 206 makes me forgive him for his Slandaar lying about the reboot tunnel..town for that…
ok WC's post #211 and 212 makes me further question his townliness..again, I don't see the aggressiveness I am used to seeing from him..
lol @ Slandaar post# 231

VOTE: SD

Magna explain SDtown to me

Put a vote on your scum pick then ask someone else to defend him? Yeh, by the time I get to the end of this catchup post, I'm pretty sure I know where my vote will be…
Ugh, again MOI with the lurky mcLurkin' Slandaar …this to me is a dead horse…he is scum for other reasons…
Slandaar post# 303 …. Just let it go…
#306 -311 moves SD up a little more in my town world
also like Andy's post 318 and the extra zipped files that were missing..thanks Andy
#330 made note…re-checked pm…@Peregrine , please respond to this

Vote: Slandaar

@ Slandaar, please explain your full case on SD for me? Cause I'm not seeing it?

With a definite eye on WC & Schmugen (damnit Kurtis for replacing out)... and now Peregrine
After reading up on Fennin/BB , I have an idea and am willing to wait a day…especially with the catch on Peregrine..

annnnd all caught up!!

[Iecerint]

And now is the point where put you on the likely scum / PEW PEW PEW list. Because I’ve played with Town Iec. Town Iec may be infuriating but he doesn’t Herp-A-Derp lurk it up and post basically non-content.

Scumlists are not non-content. Moreover, you explicitly requested that content.

If you refer to the lack of specific reasons, it's because that's not how the decisions were made. Rather, my guts churn sometimes. Any reasons produced would be framing events in light of my churning, which means they would mainly be rhetorical. When churnings are judged trustworthy enough for sharing, specific statements have been made of the form "X is town."

Passive voice will be used aggressively.

[sword_of_omens]

lol @ Iece's multi-repeat failed PR

[brizingre1]

Shitt, just had a really long post but then I accidentally closed its window. Too tired tonight but will try and get it up tomorrow

[Iecerint]

No PR errors occurred in that post AFAIecK.

[Slandaar]

Sword tell me something
If Magna cant drop the lurking argument, why should I bother responding to anything else he says? if he really believes im scum just push all these other points... which are? (yes this is the part where you write a case)

[sword_of_omens]

@Slandaar,
the whole lurking thing is honestly null for me, but
just because he keeps pushing on the lurking issue does not make him wrong about you being scum.
Early on you jumped all over malee for giving her reads post, which i thought was odd.
On the very same page (post 147) Ooba does the exact same thing as Malee (but you make no comment against him) Contradiction against you.
Same place, Kurtis then jumps on and parrots your reasoning for Malee (#149)
Then in #279 you state that Fennin "gets it" because he sees your reasoning on Malee and is scum for it(contradiction 2), but yet Kurtis is somehow justified because you didn't mention Kurtis at all for parroting you. (Contradiction 3)
When Malee replaces out you take another weak shot at her to call her scum
Not to mention your #136 saying that if you join the "right side" you are scum

Scum are more likely to take her side because it is in principle the 'right' side. They are not going to go out on a limb on my side

(Contradiction# 4)
When pressured by Magna to explain your scum read on WC you deflect instead over to SD (why not just give your reasoning on WC?)
with your deflection to SD is instead of stating why he was scum, you said ,"hey Mag, prove he isn't"
Annnnd I asked you to please explain your case on SD for me, which you didn't do…

[WrathChild]

@MoI: Umm, I'm the first person to push a case/lynch on Peregrine, how is that being opportunistic as you are implying?
@SoO: I have to admit you're right I'm not being as aggressive this game as I was in FF6, but I also don't feel like I'm surrounded by nearly as many frustrating players. FF6 was riddled with them.

[Slandaar]

I think we need to direct blasterfire btw.

It’s already been explained why this is a terrible idea that benefits scum far more than Town. That said I’m not shocked to see you floating it since you are scum and all.

Why do you keep trying to direct it then hm?

My list was good those 3 all are basically pl at this point with PV being pretty scummy (WC point re fuelling fire on me with his 'yeah I got a prod' was really good)
That is who we need to blaster so having a nice list so that we ensure a blaster kill is good.

[brizingre1]

Ok, 2nd try:
Wc's case on PereV actually looks fairly solid, could quite easily imagine him as scum
This post looks ridiculosuly scummy: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3948833

Hello all. I've just read up from the post-crash on, I'll get to the precrash when I can.

ooba strikes me as the scummiest player so far. His list of town and scum players is next to useless because there's very little reasoning. He voted WC, unvoted, and voted WC again which strikes me as someone who isn't actually paying attention and is just being opportunistic. He puts more effort into reiterating things that have been said and being helpful than scumhunting.

VOTE: ooba

Firstly, if you're going to vote someone based on giving very little reasoning behind their reads, you could vote at least half of the people in the game, just look at Iecerint's post which is the one above this (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3948768), quite frankly I cant work out why you're focussing so hard on ooba, who posted quite a lot of reasoning in the posts preceding his 'reads' post (which for the record is here:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3948001).

Your ooba voting WC case also falls apart because

DN reset the votes

meaning he had to vote WC again.

You seem to be massively reaching in a fairly scummy way:

VOTE:splitfarvle

And the sword of omnes slot is starting to seem more town now, his reasoning in general seems sound

Swinging back and forth on Slandaar atm, need to reread him and see what comes up.

[Slandaar]

@Slandaar,
just because he keeps pushing on the lurking issue does not make him wrong about you being scum.

Or hes... scum? everyone else can see its null why not him?

Early on you jumped all over malee for giving her reads post, which i thought was odd.
On the very same page (post 147) Ooba does the exact same thing as Malee (but you make no comment against him) Contradiction against you.

Malees posts were just overdone for basically saying 15nulls a couple town and a couple slight scum reads.

Same place, Kurtis then jumps on and parrots your reasoning for Malee (#149)

How is this indicative of my alignment?

Then in #279 you state that Fennin "gets it" because he sees your reasoning on Malee and is scum for it(contradiction 2), but yet Kurtis is somehow justified because you didn't mention Kurtis at all for parroting you. (Contradiction 3)

Fennin agrees with the reasoning but was voting me. He was the one contradicting.

When Malee replaces out you take another weak shot at her to call her scum

I think that slot is scum. What is your point? just a little fact; she replaced out here before some other games she was in.

Not to mention your #136 saying that if you join the "right side" you are scum

Scum are more likely to take her side because it is in principle the 'right' side. They are not going to go out on a limb on my side

(Contradiction# 4)

No thats part of a whole its not a 1 line they are scum due to this alone. Why are you suggesting as such? Note more likely, note how you are ridiculously stating they ARE which is clearly not what I said anyway.

When pressured by Magna to explain your scum read on WC you deflect instead over to SD (why not just give your reasoning on WC?)

Already explained. SD#1 scumread at time so I push my #1 read.

with your deflection to SD is instead of stating why he was scum, you said ,"hey Mag, prove he isn't"
Annnnd I asked you to please explain your case on SD for me, which you didn't do…

No, I dont believe Magnas read is legit.
You know I wrote a case on SD, you quoted a line from it in this post.


Now Sword, why isnt magna scum for refusing to explain SD read or drop the lurker argument? or contradict himself with the lurking argument on SD himself? Oh did that escape you? I remember you seeing it, but you told me to let it go? why should I? Magna is contradicting his own argument which he will not drop.

I have also taken note of your contradiction you suggest I am scum not explaining WC, but not magna for not explaining SD.

[4nxi3ty]

@4nx: I guess that vote's for my "tone" then? Could you elaborate on that?

just trying to get into the flow of the game.

Is there a good reason for me not to vote you?

[Slandaar]

ok

@Andrius: the posts exist then... so now you can show what you are voting me for can't you?

@Shmugen: you can make a case on me also.

@SD: I am not going to be editing that Andrius wall its a mess, it could be editied to 1/4 the size easily though. You need to actually give reasons for voting me aswell


Then the three of you can tell me why you are not voting PV

[Iecerint]

Oh look, Iec has an invisible and I’m going to assume unproveable ‘punishment’ for breaking his ‘post restriction’. How quaint.

The new ability is consistent with the meta-flavor -- that much can be confirmed.

Dislike the atmosphere Slandaar/MoI perpetuate. Not amenable to necessary coalition-building.

[Kdub]

Kdub, WC.
do you think Magna is town?

Leaning slightly town on Magna at the moment. I disagree with several of his opinions, but he's playing like his usual aggressive self so far. I felt OK about you, although I do have to question your Peregrine vote. I know I wanted him to comment before I talked about it, but you switched your vote rather easily with little explanation considering how adamant you seemed about MoI just as the ball started rolling against Peregrine.

Why do you keep trying to direct it then hm?

My list was good those 3 all are basically pl at this point with PV being pretty scummy (WC point re fuelling fire on me with his 'yeah I got a prod' was really good)That is who we need to blaster so having a nice list so that we ensure a blaster kill is good.

You made the same mistake I made initially. The blaster fire does not function like a second lynch, and Magna was clearly trying to prevent people from directing it.

[Shadow Dancer]

@SD: I am not going to be editing that Andrius wall its a mess, it could be editied to 1/4 the size easily though. You need to actually give reasons for voting me aswell

How is bad formatting scummy?

I gave reasons, Magna gave more than enough reasons that I support as well. Do not try to pretend it's not there.

Then the three of you can tell me why you are not voting PV

Also there's another question that you adamantly seem to pretend to either not see or not comprehend: You haven't give any reson for all of a sudden considering Per and at least two other people more scummy than me, your very recent "top and undoubtful" scumread.

And why do you need justification for

not voting

some one? Especially when I already said that I consider Per very scummy and an agreable lynch? - Oh, right, I am voting

you

right now and you need the deflection.