TM2012 - Closed Normal(Over!)

[GreyICE]

I still think Glork is town.

-_-

I hate you with the fiery passion of a thousand exploding suns.

Okay, who wants to be on a scum lynch today?

[GreyICE]

Grey
What is your read on Jason?

Town.

[Captain Murasa]

Why do you find him town?

[GreyICE]

Why not?

He's not voting for someone he thinks will flip town to show us how wrong-headed we all are for not listening to him, at least.

And that's always a good sign. Or at least a better sign than actually doing that.

[Captain Murasa]

No, I'm pretty sure he's trying to mislynch me. I do have a viable wagon at the moment.

[Glork]

I acquiesce. I'm not especially happy about a Haylen lynch, but she's almost certainly going to be dead before D3, and it's better to get it done with D1 than wait for a Vig or waste time, effort, and power roles on nailing down the Haylen situation D2.

At least if she flips town here and now, it'll help Grey and the other derps get their heads screwed on straight.

-_-

Vote: Glork

[Glork]

So let me get this straight, Grey. You spend like ten pages trying to convince me to vote for Haylen even though I've shown some reservations when doing so, then when I finally say "okay, I'll let you take the lead for once," you turn around and vote me?

[GreyICE]

See this shit Glork?

I acquiesce. I'm not especially happy about a Haylen lynch, but she's almost certainly going to be dead before D3, and it's better to get it done with D1 than wait for a Vig or waste time, effort, and power roles on nailing down the Haylen situation D2.

At least if she flips town here and now, it'll help Grey and the other derps get their heads screwed on straight.

Why the FUCK would you just give up on a scum read to wagon someone you think is town?

Actually full stop

Why wagon someone you think is town? If we haven't adequately convinced you she's scum then... why vote her?

I mean we're, lemme check... a little under ONE HUNDRED YEARS away from deadline.

"oh gee, the game is ongoing for 3 whole days and I just can't sell people on my scum reads, guess I'll give up and wagon Haylen"

Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye, scumbag.

[Glork]

This Haylen thing has been nothing but a major distraction.

Also, joining wagons I am in protest for is nothing new for GlorkTown. Let me see if I can dig up examples.

[Haylen]

And yet you want to lynch me, not because you're convinced I'm scum but because you want Grey to start playing better. Considering this is team mafia, wouldn't you lose points if you're wrong? The only motivations available for that are points for given to scum for a successful mislynch. Are your team prepared to allow that to happen if you're town? Because my team would be all CAPSLOCKRAGE at me if I tried to lynch someone to make a point when there's so much at stake.

I'm not liking the 'I wouldn't pick scum having not played it in 18 months, therefore I should be confirmed town' thing either.

I also note that you didn't reply to me asking what the heck you were talking about. How am I supposed to defend myself and answer questions about why I did/didn't do something when you don't tell me what I did/didn't do.

RAISE YOUR GLASSES TO BULLSHIT CASES IN CURRENT TIMES.



STOP SELF-METAING.

[GreyICE]

This Haylen thing has been nothing but a major distraction.

Also, joining wagons I am in protest for is nothing new for GlorkTown. Let me see if I can dig up examples.

I don't want your examples
I want your reasons
Or your corpse
I'm not fucking picky

Haylen follow words with votes. Thank you.

[Haylen]

I could go for a Glork lynch today.

Vote Glork.

[GreyICE]

Hehe, good, now you're properly crossbussing.

QT thinks I should do you today. Oh yes they do. MoI and LLD are both angry at me.

Buuuuuttt lynching scum-Glork day 1? This is too much fun.

(yes MoI I'll get back on Haylen eventually, but the town-cred from lynching her isn't going to matter when Glork shoots me, and this needs to play out today)

[Porochaz]

unvote vote Glork

You have failed to make a good well reasoned vote thus far in the game.

Grey - I believe that any post I have made not addressing you has been me scumhunting. If you disagree with that, please provide evidence of that.

[Glork]

Yeah, Lights Out is a great example.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 45#p342545 <--- agreed to lynch Naz even though I was null on him
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 37#p353837 <--- agreed to lynch Vaughn even though I had defended him and had a mostly town read on him prior

Lights Out 2:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 20#p500420 <-- completely self-explanatory

Kingmaker:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 82#p332282 <-- even though I was king and didn't suspect half the people here, I put them on the Execution List due to popular demand.





So yeah. The fact that I can recognize when there's a need greater than my own personal suspicions/opinions shows a high level of play more than anything else. Haylen is going to be a major distraction to this game until she dies, and there is a non-negligible chance that she is scum. Not really much else I can say.

[GreyICE]

You know, Poro, you think I'm town, I think you're town, lets bury whatever fucking hatchet there is.

And there's some nice skulls who need a hatchet buried in them.

Isn't that cool how that works.

PEdit: Seriously

[Haylen]

Glork, you're going for a fricking POLICY LYNCH in team mafia. How many points does your team get for that?

[Glork]

...and you, Haylen, have flat-out lied about your opinion of GreyICE. And still haven't answered how you think he can be "town" while voting him. :/

Haylen was saying that GreyICE was scum, but also trying to convince him that his read was wrong.

Actually, I was trying to convince everyone he was talking bullcrap and thus is town.

So why were you voting him? Why were you saying things like "you're the scummiest person to me right now"?

POT. KETTLE. GO.

[Haylen]

...and you, Haylen, have flat-out lied about your opinion of GreyICE. And still haven't answered how you think he can be "town" while voting him. :/

I replied that you were wrong about that. I said I was convincing everyone he was talking crap. Oh hey, I made a grammar mistake. It's the end of the world.

[Glork]

You have failed to make a good well reasoned vote thus far in the game.

Also, this is patently wrong. PereV and iamausername were both good, well-reasoned votes.

I would argue that my initial UberNinja vote was good and well-reasoned.

I will admit that I'm all over the place. I will also ask GreyICE to ask MoI to compare my play here to Scummies WINvitational.

[Glork]

MoI, assuming you're reading this: I will also NOT accept "but I was scum in Scummies WINvitational, so..." as a qualifier. You know I'm protown. Convince your idiot teammate of it.

[Haylen]

My team thinks you're scum.

[CooLDoG]

ehh, not sold. I'm not too much a fan of wishy washy, "ehh he might be scum because it was sorta scummy here". Still think UN is better though.

COOLDOG
ARE YOU BUSY
BEING OBVIOUS SCUM
IN MY GAMETHREAD

ARE YOU COOLDOG

BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR CASE ON UBERNINJA:

This post is bad. He had a reason, now he is all ready back tracking. Let's wagon this guy.

BUT IT'S NOT A CASE AT ALL, IS IT STEVE?

Seeing as that is not my case I wonder how you are getting all of this. Read the game thread better instead of quickly scanning it. I actually haven't built what I would consider a case yet on UN. I have given reasons if you read the post where I voted for him. Plus, d1, 4-5 pages what can you go off of better than gut reads and minor scum reads?

Also Haylen is my townread and I can defend her all I want. The wagon on her is stupid and needs to die.

Any elaborated reasons? Because you have made quite a few posts about haylen, but most are just to the effect of "that's a good defense" or "haylen is town".

Glork is all over the place, but he's finally in the right place. Stop defending Haylen. She needs to die.

Also, what are your reasons for pushing a haylen lynch. The only real reason I could find was:

You don't need to show nervousness or act it, you just need to make mistakes. The mistake = nervousness.

Is it just me or is this reasoning completely circular?

Which is a debatable reason at best.

Kingmaker:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 82#p332282 <-- even though I was king and didn't suspect half the people here, I put them on the Execution List due to popular demand.

They very fact that you use kingmaker as an example of why we shouldn't lynch you in a normal game makes me think that your meta is shit. Just saying, at least use good meta.

My QT likes a glork lynch to a certain degree. However, I personally still like UN over glork for now.

[Glork]

My team thinks you're scum.

Really.

That's fascinating, consiering 2/3 of your team hasn't been active on the site in 7 hours, and the other one is Parama, who should ALSO be meta-ing me as protown based on Scummies WINvitational.

Confirm Vote: Haylen

[GreyICE]

My team wants me back on Haylen.

HOWEVER
MoI thinks you're scum, Glork.
So does LLD

You're not really winning any fans in our QT.

*sigh*

Vote: Haylen

Don't let Glork survive til endgame, folks.