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In post 346, Amrun wrote:Read CDB's post -- question, why is looking for a catch all reason to call Saint town scummy, unless Ghostlin is scum with Saint? (And do you think the latter is the case?)

What I'm trying to get at is that it seems an unnatural read, like Ghostlin is scum who knows that Saint is town and is just making up some cheap, rough psychologicagubbins rather than actually reading him in-depth in order to be able to draw the conclusion that he's town. Does that make sense? And no, I clearly don't think Saint is scum.

CBD is probably town. Let's be friends, k?

Amrun I need to see more from before making an initial call.

Mhork, I've already mentioned part of why I think Saint is town in the post you quoted - his first post started off on a town foot. Ever since that, I've been unsettled by the votes that have gone his way - as well as yours, penguin_alien's #13 was not a good vote. Ghostlin's #59 wasn't great, either, and makes him look slow on the uptake when you compare it to the post I pointed out before where he unilaterally declares Saint town. I definitely didn't buy that you could have been ready to lynch Saint in #69, as well. He may know it a bit too much but Saint seems fairly clear town to me and there are so many other better avenues to explore that it feels absurd.

BRO - 'k.

In post 339, Jake from State Farm wrote:misogny in games are always interesting when women are in them...

So nice that it makes things interesting for you.

Here's fuzzybutternut's most recent complete scum game I can find: link While it's worth considering that he's decided to switch up his meta as of this game, I'm not seeing a good reason to lynch him thus far. Is there anything in his fluff posting that makes you think he's scum?

ArcAngel9, why aren't you posting here? This seems like a game you'd be all over if you're town.

RachMarie, any scum reads yet?

Ghostlin, why do you think TMTOLBTWNTOF's changing his mind based on someone else's case is scummy?

Lord Mhork, what's your take on DeasVail with him shifting from voting you to Jake from State Farm?

That was sarcasm...

In post 333, Nexus wrote:

ChannelDelibird replaces SafetyDance.

Saint, cut out the misogyny. Rule 0.

where am i being a misogynist ?

In post 342, ChannelDelibird wrote:I got huge townvibes from Fuzzy in the opening pages. He's totally carefree (a general towntell) and consistent with the last time that I saw him as town.

agree

I have a very solid argument against mhork: he is selectively ignoring things

let me find my post in iso to get the exact numbers

In post 209, Saint wrote:

In post 170, Lord Mhork wrote:

In post 161, Saint wrote:i realized i did that and if you notice i have them both listed as town

You're just making things up though. You still haven't justified your ArcAngel read apart from 'he's town.'

In post 163, Saint wrote:mhork is really beating a dead horse here
i wonder if he will actually get around to hunting scum, or if he's content sitting on his thumb

I'm hunting scum right now, jackass.

In post 165, Saint wrote:you know what, i'm going with a policy vote policy of being a hypocritical village idiot. plus deasvail my strongest townread is voting him. plus im not going to be 3rd/4th voter and commit a jeep tell if he does flip town, which, if he isn't a townie idiot he's scum. it's pretty much 50% townie 50% scum from mhork at this point in my eyes, and i really dont care to lose him if he's either, if he's going to continously tunnel on me and hinder us later on, OR EVEN WORSE GET A WAGON ON ME

unvote;
vote: lord_mhork

Fuck off you fucking fuckface. You haven't provided one shred of evidence against me. What is my hypocrisy? What am I doing that's bad? What is scummy about me? Is it because I'm attacking you? Is because I'm perceiving things you're doing as scummy? Those aren't scumtells. And I'm going to keep tunneling you until you prove me wrong and start acting townie. Fuck off or get it together.

In post 167, Saint wrote:VOTE: vote: deasvail

Can we please lynch this? Someone give me one good case for why he's town apart from "I feel towniness" or "Scum wouldn't be this blatant."

In post 169, fuzzybutternut wrote:...Saint wtf are you doing?

He's being a fuckhead. You should help me lynch him.

in fact, here is mhork COMPLETELY IGNORING MY 164
he quotes 163
he quotes 165
but not 164, conveniently for him!!!!!!!!!

here we are
the funny thing is I REMEMBERED THE NUMBERS, but I just wanted to make sure
Mhork didn't address this, either... he is either obtuse scum, or not reading as town... i'm actually leaning towards him being a village idiot, but i am going to catch up, and see what CDB thinks about him... I'd have him in "leaning scum" or "a pretty good lynch" but not a great one, at this point. Still really liking Rach for scum... was generally wanting her lynched, then became a specialized read when she parroted an argument, rephrasing it, iioa, scumandeering, and committed a scumtell i know of that i want to keep secret

also my "misogynist" line was POINTED TOWARDS DEASVAIL
SO YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE INVALID
DEASVAIL IS A GIRLY-MAN

In post 353, penguin_alien wrote:Ghostlin, why do you think TMTOLBTWNTOF's changing his mind based on someone else's case is scummy?

Because the way he did it. It reads like he calls someone scum and then folds after one case. He wasn't committed to the read and was finding a convenient way to get off of it. Once again, it's NOT Town play to do so. Yes, you can have contradictory positions and feelings on a read, Lord knows I've had them more than once, but TMT pulls practically a 360 a post later. There's no progression on that read at all.

Fuzzy's meh. He's not doing the dissonant bullshit of trying to post content that really isn't, but he's not really posting anything either. The carefree could easily be faked and isn't a towntell in my book.

222 read like an aggressive Town push that scum wouldn't even attempt, even on a buddy. It was cruel, but in the way of 'shut up and quit your bellyaching for not being active and be active.

In post 349, Lord Mhork wrote:Why is Saint town? That's my question. That's my question to all of you people.

He's kicking hornet's nests and lighting random things on fire as Town, in a Town way. He's questioning peoples reads. He's using tells, he's trying to figure stuff out, even if he's been confrontational about it. (There would be a different word than confrontational, but I think Rule #0 prohibits me calling him the a-word.)

The majority of scum do NOT do this, even when aggressive as scum. The players that annoy the piss out of you because they're such rude ass hats? Town, at least 90% of the time. Unless someone can tell me he's a got a play style that does this as both Town and Scum, and a lot of people DO NOT, I'm 90% sure Saint is Town.

In post 358, Saint wrote:also my "misogynist" line was POINTED TOWARDS DEASVAIL
SO YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE INVALID
DEASVAIL IS A GIRLY-MAN

So your misogyny was actually homo/transphobia.

Seriously cut it out or I will request that you be replaced out/modkilled. And unlike Jake, I will be serious.

No cursing?

I have to curse so you may want to have a replacement lines up

In post 364, Nexus wrote:

Curse, but don't be an ass about it. You should know what is acceptable and what isn't. You're not a baby.

You haven't seen me play lol

what the heck game just exploded.

Keep in mind everyone that I am currently sharing a computer with my fiance, good news is should have a new computer soon.

Welcome to the game CDB.

So Saint ever going to answer my questions?

PA I am working on it.

In post 347, Lord Mhork wrote:Hang on you think ArcAngel is good at being scum? From what I've seen, she's awesome town and shit scum. It's the reason I've been waiting to see what she does, because she's usually very obvious about her alignment. At least, that's what I've seen in my few games with her.

What do you think about the fact she isn't posting? Is that part of her meta?

BTW, is it douchey to mention I completely didn't realize PA was a female and that didn't sink in until now?

In post 198, RachMarie wrote:I will say that I know PA is pretty good at being scum and I can provide a couple examples of that.

Also have games with DV.

and Fuzzy...

and Arc

lol not too many here I dont know

Saint is one so will have to do some meta stalking on him.

Hopefully that makes it clearer.....

I was saying PA is good at being scum and I could provide a cple of examples.

I was saying that I played with DV, Fuzzy, and Arc.

Arc does lurk at times and at other times she is hyperposting, so her lurking is a null tell.


Its ok Ghost you are forgiven because of your avi I love Tadar ♥

We never played before? Thought we did

yeah we did

in Micro 158 plus you were the mod in mini 1433. anything else is [redacted] .

So you forgot about me? :sniff sniff:

awww HUGS ♥ Jake.

Keep in mind I was dead tired when I posted that.