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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:45 pm

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Ha...theres plenty of time...watch...me you and pab put our votes on ML....ill do so now, just to give you the chance to make the correct play...
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. There, now all we need is the other 2(pab, you) who are watching and keep saying theres not enough time to put your money where your mouth is.


In case i do get lynched though...Im still sure aureal is scum. Im moving my vote, but i know hes not going to move his. I dont know if its because he/they know they can get ML at any time, and dont need to worry about her, or what, but. When I turn up not scum, please make sure to lynch him for me. Thanks!
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:49 am

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Sorry, but I'm leaving for work in about 15 minutes here. So no, there isn't really time. Deadline is in 5 hours, right? And there's really no need for all the finger-pointing, your little attempt to cast all the blame on me is making me more confident about my vote. You see, unlike you, I'm
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sure you're scum, because I really am town and hence can't really be sure of anything of the sort.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:11 am

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Well, I don't like Centoaph's claim that much. King Dongle - townie, with panic over Princess Dongle possibly not being in the game.

On the other hand, he's calling her "Princess Awesomelope," which suggests either he or the mod went to special trouble to come up with that name.

What would have been nice, is if there had been time for Princess Dongle (who I believe is in this game) to indicate that she was told King Dongle was in the game (if she was).

I think Centoaph is scummy enough to be the lynch, though.

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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:55 am

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Centoaph, Space Mummy, SK, is lynched!


Also, I won't actually be leaving till Monday, so I'll still handle this night. VitaminR'll take over tomorrow. Send night choices to me, please.

Deadline for night choices: 11.00 GMT on Monday
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:08 am

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As you all gather around the town square, you notice that yet again 2 of you are missing.

A quick body count reveals that Kelly Chen and Osloboditelj are those taken. Chamber points the town to the bodies.

It becomes immediately apparent what happened to Osloboditelj. It seems Kelly Chen shot him. The young
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Bilderberg
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Kelly Chen, Bilderberg, Illuminati GF, has been shot.
Osloboditelj, Hugo Rodriguez, Townie, has also been shot


As the crowd leaves the bodies behind, ryanjunk is seen lightly sobbing over Kelly's corpse. "How am I supposed to get back to my planet now?", he exclaims. It appears ryanjunk was no other than
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ryanjunk, Alan, Illuminati Prisoner, has surrendered to the town
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The threat to the town of Shallow Brook is no more! The blingidium statue is yours to enjoy!

I declare chamber to be the town MVP. Full roles coming in a sec.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:23 am

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And here I was with a big analytic post almost ready =/. Actually, I'd wanted to post just before deadline, but Kelly preempted me (I was ready to call her scummy after that, and I would have been right!)... Congratulations to our vig (chamber?) for giving the town a win I'm not sure if we deserved based on our daytime play - I feel I started playing pretty weakly D2, personally. I've always thought slow games favour scum, but this goes to show it's not always true. Good Game all around, I guess.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:25 am

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Bah, CHAMBER!

Sniff, should've killed him Night 1 =(
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:26 am

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Kelly Chen
You are Bilderberg, leader of the Illuminati, the Shadow Government. You are Atlantean in origin and you have come to Shallow Brook with your companions Otto the Mulatto(Vaughn) and Alan(ryanjunk) to take that blingidium statue. Every night you may send Otto the Mulatto(Vaughn) to kill someone or when he's gone perform the kill yourself. Alan is your prisoner. He will serve you for as long as another Illuminati is still around, but he can't perform kills.(he will remain mafia-aligned at all time, you don't have to worry about that)

In game terms: You're a mafia GF(investigation-immune).

Your safe claim is André Tinkle, the brother of Quincy and the uncle of Wigu. He has a degree in esoteric studies.
Vaughn
You are Otto the Mulatto, a torturer in the service of the Illuminati, the Shadow Government. You were brought to this place under the guidance of Bilderberg(N_lich) alongside Alan(ryanjunk). Alan is a Illuminati prisoner, who, although he will serve the Illuminati, will not kill. That is your task. (you don't have to worry about Alan switching sides, I assure you it will not happen).

In game terms: you are a mafia goon.

Your safe claim is Science Cop, a forensic detective from a show on the tv.


ryanjunk
You're Alan, a reptile-like alien, captured by the Illuminati, Earth's shadow government. You were brought here by Bilderberg(N_lich) alongside Otto the Mulatto(Vaughn). Although you would like to betray them, you can't, you depend upon them for your survival. You will however not make any kills.

In game terms: you're a mafia goon that can't kill. If and when N_lich and Vaughn are dead, you no longer stop the town from winning.

Your safe claim is Betty-Lou-Thelma-Liz Pinkerton, a friend of Wigu's. Due to recent adventures, you haven't seen him in a while though.
Centoaph
You're the Space Mummy. You have come to Shallow Brook to regain your blingidium statue. Every night you may go out in your space craft and blast someone.

In game terms: you're the SK.

You also have a safe claim: King Dongle, father of Princess Awesomelope Dongle and ruler of the Butter Dimension.
pablito
You are Sheriff Pony, the Head of Royal Security, your job is to keep the Princess safe. You enjoy birthdays and being polite. Your olfactory sensors have been bio-engineered to smell threat. Threat smells like salsa. Every night you may go over someone and see what they smell like.

In game terms: you're a cop, sanity unknown.
Mod Note: Modified sane, he got guilty results("salsa") on anti-town killing roles(including the GF) and innocent results("no salsa") on everyone else.


Orbiting
You're Topato Potato, a born warrior, you possess a large, loud vocabulary and fear nothing. You are made of a poison that triggers agonizing death in his opponents. You are a licensed attorney, an anti-hero and a jerk. None can fight you and live.

In game terms: you're a townie that kills back. If someone nightkills you, that person will die alongside you.
chamber
You are Quincy Tinkle, father of Wigu and Paisley and husband to Romy, you are a strapping hunk of man meat and evidence that there are good rednecks out there. You work from the home, composing soundtracks to adult movies. You're a man willing to protect his family and you have a gun.

In game terms: you're a vigilante.
Mod note: If he killed Bilderberg, he would be given the opportunity to succeed Bilderberg as mafia GF. BUT, although he wouldn't know this, he would've stayed pro-town and in the case of a mafia victory, he would've commited suicide. Chamber did indeed get this choice: he said no.


Aureal
You are Princess Awesomelope Dongle. Spoiled beyond recognition, self-destruction is your hobby. Lascivious and capricious, you are unbearably reckless and mean. Taking care of you is a very difficult job. You do however have some robots at your disposal, who can be of assistance.

In game terms: you're a doctor.
Osloboditelj
You are Hugo Rodriguez, probably Wigu's best friend. Although you're dead in the story, you aren't here, yet anyway. You aspire to be a real gangster.

In game terms: you're a townie.
Mod note: If he died before Wigu did, then he would've been able to send messages to Wigu.


doublehelix
You're Romy Tinkle, the mother of Wigu and Paisley, you are perpetually unsatisfied and an alcoholic paper pusher. You work in some sort of financial institution, drive a Mercedes, and have conversations with your drinks.

In game terms: you're a townie.
thedocsalive
You are Wigu Tinkle, the primary protagonist, you are a little boy who spends many of his days in a fantasy world of his own creation. An imaginative husky boy, you are too smart for your surroundings.

In game terms: you're a townie.
Medicated Lain
You are Paisley Tinkle, the big sister of Wigu, you are a chronically depressed, nihilistic anarchist. Even when you're not depressed you try to find things to be depressed about.

In game terms: you're a special win condition townie. To achieve a minor victory the town must simply win. But to achieve a full victory, you need to be dead as well.
Mod note: I do not in fact differentiate between a minor and a full victory. As such ML actually had the same winning conditions as everyone else.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:31 am

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I own, that is all.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:37 am

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Night Choices:
Night 1
Kelly Chen kill thedocsalive
chamber kills Vaughn
Centoaph kills Vaughn
Pablito gets "no salsa" on Osloboditelj
Aureal protects Medicated Lain

Night 2
Kelly Chen kills Osloboditelj
chamber kills Kelly Chen
pablito gets "no salsa" on ryanjunk
Aureal protects pablito

I think the set up certainly could've gone several ways. pablito's non-standard sanity certainly could've screwed the town over, as could chamber succeeding Kelly Chen as Illuminati GF. As it turns out, the Illuminati Prisoner turned out to be a real weakness for the Illuminati and some excellent play by chamber did the rest.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:39 am

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Osloboditelj wrote: And here I was with a big analytic post almost ready =/. Actually, I'd wanted to post just before deadline, but Kelly preempted me (I was ready to call her scummy after that, and I would have been right!)... Congratulations to our vig (chamber?) for giving the town a win I'm not sure if we deserved based on our daytime play - I feel I started playing pretty weakly D2, personally. I've always thought slow games favour scum, but this goes to show it's not always true. Good Game all around, I guess.
*nods sagely* The town's daytime play wasn't great. Luckily you had the right players in the nighttime roles. The vigilante nailed two scum and the cop actually investigated a third. If ryanjunk had been a straightforward goon, the town still would've won early on.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:47 am

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Ok, that sucked, but at least I didn't think I was going to win. I didn't realize ryanjunk would surrender to the town...

I have no idea why chamber vigged me. I guess it was personal.

I thought Oslo/Hugo was the vig. Hugo shoots himself with a gun, I think. I thought that even if I could keep pablito from getting a guilty on ryanjunk (which he wouldn't have anyway), Oslo might vig him, so it was pointless.

I thought the doc must be Aureal or ML, but I didn't want to NK either. I hoped they would get lynched. Ditto for chamber and doublehelix.

I also did not want to kill Oslo, because I thought he could do some misfiring for awhile and get me closer to the end. But I could not see any way to avoid the problems caused by him and pablito both being confirmed.

I did not think Centoaph was SK, but I could not see any way to avoid voting him. It would've been great to still have him around with a claim like King Dongle, townie.

The safe claims in this game were horrible! King Dongle isn't bad. But we got the uncle who isn't in the archived comics, Science Cop (a TV show character!), and I guess the female classmate Stupidetta.

My master plan was to hope Princess Dongle could be NKed (I suspected she was a doctor), and then I'd claim Annaba Banana, backup doctor.

I thought I was immune to Sheriff Pony's investigations. I totally didn't mind leaving pablito alive, for this reason. I hoped he would investigate all but one person before getting NKed.

I thought the circumstances of my replacement into this game made it obvious that either myself or pablito must be scum. Before I got my role, I assumed that Aelyn/pablito was scum. When it turned out I was scum, I knew pablito had to have a power role.

Turns out that ML had the crappy role, not Lenneth/doublehelix.

Good game town.

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@CES - Actually you told me Vaughn had to make the Night 1 kill.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:58 am

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Obviously I didn't do much here. Still good to win, and it was better that I was nightkilled than one of the power roles.

Good game all, and 1337 game to chamber.

I also enjoyed CES' style of modding. The quotes in the vote counts were enjoyable, and the dark red made it clear when he was posting/editing.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:00 am

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Kelly Chen wrote: I have no idea why chamber vigged me. I guess it was personal.
Gut. He's a good gut player.
Kelly Chen wrote: The safe claims in this game were horrible! King Dongle isn't bad. But we got the uncle who isn't in the archived comics, Science Cop (a TV show character!), and I guess the female classmate Stupidetta.
The uncle is more recent. I seriously considered putting him in. But yes, the safe claims weren't all that great. That's why I said there were safe claims. It wasn't supposed to be about character claims, you see, and that's how it turned out. Orbiting got lynched despite being Topato. That was the intent and that's how it worked.
I thought I was immune to Sheriff Pony's investigations. I totally didn't mind leaving pablito alive, for this reason. I hoped he would investigate all but one person before getting NKed.
Yeah, but he wasn't actually sane.
Kelly Chen wrote: I thought the circumstances of my replacement into this game made it obvious that either myself or pablito must be scum. Before I got my role, I assumed that Aelyn/pablito was scum. When it turned out I was scum, I knew pablito had to have a power role.
I didn't handle it perfectly, but I don't think it meant one of the two had to be scum. Outside the thread talk about roles is always bad.
I have no idea why chamber vigged me. I guess it was personal.
Kelly Chen wrote: @CES - Actually you told me Vaughn had to make the Night 1 kill.
He did. Not that it matters, but he definitely did.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:24 am

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So was the only difference between Sheriff Pony's sanity and normal sanity that he would have gotten guilty on the GF and not on the non-killing scum, or was there something else I'm not seeing?

A big part of my "mistake" of pushing the notion there was a vig and blatantly breadcrumbing Hugo was to make the scum think I actually was the vig, and spend a kill on a vanilla townie rather than a power role. Looks like I would have succeeded too.

The Aelyn/N-Lich situation was weird; it probably would have been better to handle it quietly than make us wonder what was going on there.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:29 am

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The only thing that notice did is stop us from mass claiming, and allow me to cast doubt on Oslo's Hugo claim. Any mafia forced to use a safe claim would have been lynched on the spot.

Before deciding on Annaba Banana, I did consider claiming King Dongle. Thankfully I guessed he might really be in the game.

Don't tell me that Orbiting's abysmal play is an example of what was supposed to happen.


I would love to hear what was scummy about my Centoaph vote. I had no basis for defending him, and his self-defense was not very good. I also wanted to make an issue of the fact that he called the princess "Awesomelope," because my PM would supposedly just call her "Princess Dongle." (Because Annana Banana would not need to know the princess' first name.)
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:36 am

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Actually, it was the fact that you'd mostly stayed off him and jumped on for the lynch that I noticed (after a few iffy votes earlier), and jumping on the use of the princess's actual first name (used often enough in the comic, and after a precedent of full names being used) is really overreaching to my eye. Plus there was the fact that the timing almost seemed to me like a way to preempt my promised analytic post, which may have just been my annoyance talking.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:01 am

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@kelly I vigged you because 1 you rubbed me wrong day1 and begging of day2, into day2 you started bringing up random old qoutes, that seemed weird to me. I also found your vote on cent scummy. I dont know why, It just seemed like the oportune time for scum to finish off someone they thought was town.

@oslo I was going to vig you instead tonight because of the vig breadcrumbing, but then the sk died, and you were investigated as inoccent, so I figured it wasnt being done on perpus.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:06 am

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Wow. When I really,
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:01 am

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Congrats chamber, you won us the game, you vigged two and was a big force on lynching the SK. I picked out the last goon, but it appears we didn't even need to kill him to win. How we ended up lynching Centoaph and got the SK was pretty lucky, imo. But it just means that if chamber is ever pro-town, just follow his vote.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:27 pm

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*is still horribly confused* Why did either Kelly or pablito have to be scum? I think I'm going to be scared of Kelly and chamber if I ever end up in a game with them again....
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:34 am

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Because the reason N_lich had to be replaced is that he knew Aelyn/pablito's role.

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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:59 am

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Because the reason N_lich had to be replaced is that he knew Aelyn/pablito's role.
I still don't see how that follows. Being told
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:13 pm

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I probably could've handled it better, but all it actually meant was that they weren't masons or mafia together, which wouldn't play a role as there weren't any masons and pablito had a solid claim.

If one townie gets to know that another player is also a townie, then that first townie would also have to be replaced.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:00 am

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seems like KC was the only one who came to the aelyn vs. n_lich must have been scum then conclusion. I guess since I knew I was replacing the cop, anyone else knowing my role would've been detrimental and should have therefore been replaced.
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