Mini 312 - PrinceOfPersiaMafia: Game Over


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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Tue May 23, 2006 7:21 am

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chamber wrote:Im not mafia, and assuming this game is over is stupid. Finally if armlx is town your vote was NOT good. you interpret actions as scummy, if YOU are WRONG its YOUR fault. This is becoming one of my biggest pet peeves, people blaming the person getting lynched for getting lynched as town, when its there own fault.
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Yeah, I'm going to listen to a rant from the most useless player in the whole game. Why would I
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assume that the game is over? One of the players was acting like it was. Are you stupid? Did you not see that? Don't lecture me because you didn't read very well. Sheesh.

And here's a little scenario for you. There are players A, B, and C. A and B are town. C is mafia. A openly declares himself to be mafia. B and C lynch him. Therefore, it
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A's fault. That is obviously not the situation we're dealing with, but it easily proves that it very well can be the fault of the player who acts scummy.

It's one of my pet peeves when people say crap like "congrats, you lynched your last townie." Acting all smug as if they had played well. Plainly they played badly, or they wouldn't have been lynched.
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is why I reacted the way I did.

Don't lecture me unless you're going to actually put something into the game, pal. Ticks me off.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Tue May 23, 2006 9:33 am

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Drummer wrote:
chamber wrote:Im not mafia, and assuming this game is over is stupid. Finally if armlx is town your vote was NOT good. you interpret actions as scummy, if YOU are WRONG its YOUR fault. This is becoming one of my biggest pet peeves, people blaming the person getting lynched for getting lynched as town, when its there own fault.
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Yeah, I'm going to listen to a rant from the most useless player in the whole game. Why would I
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assume that the game is over? One of the players was acting like it was. Are you stupid? Did you not see that? Don't lecture me because you didn't read very well. Sheesh.

And here's a little scenario for you. There are players A, B, and C. A and B are town. C is mafia. A openly declares himself to be mafia. B and C lynch him. Therefore, it
is
A's fault. That is obviously not the situation we're dealing with, but it easily proves that it very well can be the fault of the player who acts scummy.

It's one of my pet peeves when people say crap like "congrats, you lynched your last townie." Acting all smug as if they had played well. Plainly they played badly, or they wouldn't have been lynched.
That
is why I reacted the way I did.

Don't lecture me unless you're going to actually put something into the game, pal. Ticks me off.
:roll: lets do that again :roll:

In that case he wouldn't be acting scummy he would be claiming scum, I chose to Differentiate between these two things. Also I still say that it's our fault for lynchign armlx, not his. Finally saying that I added nothing to the game ticks me off. I didnt build a case of course, but I faundly believe that building cases is a scum tool. A compitant townie should be able to review the thread after someone has been put in question and build a case for themselves. Building cases for other people only leads to the opportunity to misrepresent the person in question.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Tue May 23, 2006 10:39 am

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Final Vote Count:

1 BabyJesus
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4 armlx
(BabyJesus, Drummer, bluesoul, chanber)
0 No Execution


2 Not Voting
(StrykkerVerde, Arafax)

sorry for the delay.

The town tries to hang armlx but he doesn't seem to die. They stab, snipe, burn, and bite him in attempts of killing him yet nothing seems to work. Finally, someone looks up ways to kill persian myth monsters and the town drenches armlx in water, finally killing him.

armlx - The Dahaka (Disruptor [pro-town])
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Tue May 23, 2006 1:00 pm

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IT's been a long day, I meant to type that armlx was a "Specific Disruptor," will edit on front page
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Thu May 25, 2006 11:42 am

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Beheaded. This was the state in which chamber was found. The Old Man, a loyal Babylonian, has been slain. Who would kill an innocent old man?

It is Morning 4, with 5 alive it's 3 to execute.

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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Thu May 25, 2006 1:13 pm

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At this point in my mind, I only trust Strykker as not being scum...He was the only one (besides myself) that didn't vote armlx.

I have been suspicious of Drummer the entire game.....BabyJ appears scummy with his "90% sure of armlx being scum"...I will do a re-read and post more, but I must admit that it looks clear to me at this time who scum is.

Also, I think that Bluesoul needs to claim at this time....He is the only one who has not and we are at LOL.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Thu May 25, 2006 5:14 pm

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who was roleblocked last night....
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 5:27 am

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I blocked Bluesoul. His voting patterns reminded me of another game when he was scum. I also think it's about time for him to claim.

Arafax, you say you've been suspicious of me the whole game. Personally I thought it was your self-defense against
me thinking you were scum.
But if that somehow set off your scumdar, I can't argue it.

I'm not sure that BabyJ has actually claimed though. Hinted at it and guessed by others, yes. But no actual claim that I saw.

I'd like a prod on Strykker or something.

Also, it's painfully obvious that the scum are somehow trying to set me up. I mean, why would they kill Chamber? Chamber never even voiced a single suspicion. If I were scum, I'd want Chamber alive. I guess the scum want it to look like I was angry with Chamber or something stupid like that, so I targetted him.

Otherwise, it would have to be because Chamber started to get suspicious of someone else. But he didn't. He just got OMGUS at everyone. No clue why he was killed. Or maybe
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is the reason why. If anyone else was killed, we could probably find a reason from yesterday(voting patterns and all that). I dunno.

I know that scum can decide who performs the kill and all...but I blocked BabyJ
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bluesoul. There were still kills. The odds are better that they are good guys. I'm gonna have to look at the more likely candidates. Strykker and Arafax. Since Strykker's not around, I won't even FOS yet. But Arafax has been bugging me all game. Ever since before his claim. And we did say that Crola sometimes mixes masons with mafia. Hmm.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 6:13 am

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So, with armlx telling the truth (I still can;t believe that btw), that means ALL time characters were blocked that one night, and there was still a kill.

Stands to reason we need to look at the non-time characters right now....we're going to find at least one scum in there, if not both.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 6:14 am

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So, if I remember right

Time: BabyJesus, Strykker
Non-Time: Arafax, Drummer
Undetermined: Bluesoul

yes?
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 10:20 am

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Well, the scum can often select which player they want to perform the kill. It's still heavy evidence against Arafax and Bluesoul though(obviously from my point of view). I think evil roleblockers are uncommon though, so I'm probably the least likely candidate.

Let's get a claim from bluesoul!
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 12:27 pm

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I would also like BabyJ to fully claim.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 1:05 pm

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Arafax wrote:I would also like BabyJ to fully claim.
I am the Prince....

Do you need proof?
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 2:48 pm

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BabyJ wrote: I am the Prince....

Do you need proof?
What proof can you offer?
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 3:13 pm

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Question?

If we believe Strykkers claim....He is going to die tomorrow unless BabyJ dies tonight?...Do we agree on that?

Even if we lynch scum tonight actually.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 3:18 pm

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BTW (about previous post) that would be the end of the game?
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 5:06 pm

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Arafax wrote:
BabyJ wrote: I am the Prince....

Do you need proof?
What proof can you offer?
I can autolynch someone....as I said before I have a one time ability to affect a lynch.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 5:07 pm

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Arafax wrote:
Question?

If we believe Strykkers claim....He is going to die tomorrow unless BabyJ dies tonight?...Do we agree on that?

Even if we lynch scum tonight actually.
well, I'm not dying tonight...
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Fri May 26, 2006 7:16 pm

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.....so....babyjesus is the prince, i need to outlive the prince, and if babyjesus does not die today, i will die tomorrow...and babyjesus can affect who dies today...

I don't see myself having any outs here.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2006 12:51 am

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StrykkerVerde wrote:.....so....babyjesus is the prince, i need to outlive the prince, and if babyjesus does not die today, i will die tomorrow...and babyjesus can affect who dies today...

I don't see myself having any outs here.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2006 2:56 am

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BabyJ wrote: well, I'm not dying tonight...
Well here is what I am saying:
Even if we lynch scum today...We will have 4 left...Then scum kills in the night, 3 left....Then tomorrow Strykker auto-dies cuz you're (BabyJ) still here, 2 left = game over.

So we have to lynch Strykker today and hope that he is scum...Otherwise we have no chance at all.....Unless we lynch BabyJ and hope that he is scum...IMO those are the only 2 options for the town to have a chance here....
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2006 3:13 am

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Arafax wrote:
BabyJ wrote: well, I'm not dying tonight...
Well here is what I am saying:
Even if we lynch scum today...We will have 4 left...Then scum kills in the night, 3 left....Then tomorrow Strykker auto-dies cuz you're (BabyJ) still here, 2 left = game over.

So we have to lynch Strykker today and hope that he is scum...Otherwise we have no chance at all.....Unless we lynch BabyJ and hope that he is scum...IMO those are the only 2 options for the town to have a chance here....
Any other thoughts?
Well, assuming Drummer is pro-town, there is a chance he can block a kill, to give us a chance...Plus we haven't seen a doc yet, assuming we have one, so with this few, the chances of a block are going up, which would give us a better shot. Also, if Strykker is scum in your scenario, when he auto-dies, we win...
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2006 3:23 am

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Good point, that makes sense....I am more inclined to think that Stryyker is scum because of the anti-prince thing....But he didn't vote for armlx and that seems un-scummy...There just hasn't been a lot of scummy behavior IMO, so it's hard to find who to lynch.
BabyJ wrote: Well, assuming Drummer is pro-town, there is a chance he can block a kill, to give us a chance
So, you think that there are 2 pro-town RB's?
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2006 3:39 am

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Also, based on armlx's block D1....He blocked all time characters and there was still a kill....So there must be atleast 1 scum that is not a time charatcer...Those people are:
Arafax and Drummer.....Bluesoul said that he didn't feel the need to claim, so I don't know about him.

@ drummer...You said that you blocked BabyJ last night....Why?...BabyJ was blocked already (by armlx) and there was still a kill...Can you explain the logic to me?

I'm thinking that Drummer is the best lynch at this point....But being this late in the game, I will wait on voting for now.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2006 7:52 am

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Arafax wrote:
BabyJ wrote: Well, assuming Drummer is pro-town, there is a chance he can block a kill, to give us a chance
So, you think that there are 2 pro-town RB's?
Uncertain. It does seem odd, and that was a big part of my assumption that armlx was scum yesterday.

I also agree we need to get a claim out of bluesoul.....
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