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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:13 pm
by Tierce
In post 348, chamber wrote:
In post 346, Tierce wrote: (Furthermore, it's not like scum don't use meta and you know it, the reason the meta bit was good was because chamber looked for possible non-scum motivation before making accusations.)
ummm... its not like his language had been broken or stilted this game? If anything what I did kept open the possibility of him being scum instead of closing it... which is the opposite (though less extreme) of what you said implied.
I didn't say you closed that possibility, I said (or implied) you were trying to figure out what his style in another game might mean in this game.
In post 349, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 346, Tierce wrote:Actually, you know what? That's bullshit, JacobSavage. If I ask you what was the source of a Townread at a certain point and you give me an answer that has nothing to do with the time you posted the read at, it means the original read was made up and you don't have a good reason for it. (Furthermore, it's not like scum don't use meta and you know it, the reason the meta bit was good was because chamber looked for possible non-scum motivation before making accusations.)

UNVOTE: TheIrishPope
VOTE: JacobSavage
mmmmm this doesn't follow. town can't be mistaken about their reasons of having a townread? it's just as likely that he forgot
He "forgot"
within ten hours
of making that list, and within nine hours of saying he has a mild Townread on chamber?

Yeah, I'm not buying that. And I'd prefer it if you'd let him speak for himself before presenting handy excuses.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:20 pm
by SpyreX
Good Tierce is town.
Dan is a little
energetic
but the important part there is that he's committing to things hard and fast that actually have some weight instead of fumbling around like a drunk teen at prom.
In post 261, Elscouta wrote:@SpyreX: What do you think of chamber #109
Honestly, I didn't read the code select *gasp*. I have little patience for those kind of teeheegames.

Now that you made me go back and actually read it I'm not surprised at it bodes well for the future.

However actually trying to engage in something in this morass is a good sign.

Chamber taking the time to go meta as scum at this point looking for a bite under what would have been the strangest pretenses ever is waay more likely town and scum.

---

Its ~meta~ but Desp is off by a wide margin. I don't like that.
TIP bluster and, well, pretty much everything there would make him someone I'd shoot right in the face.

We're starting to slowly get places, but there's still an amazing amount of dead weight.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:42 pm
by TheIrishPope
what's wrong with defending?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:46 pm
by Tierce
Nothing, in principle. In practice, you're meddling. Let people speak for themselves before you intervene. I second guess myself enough, I don't need the "help" of others to do so.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:55 pm
by TheIrishPope
Well of course you need the "help" of others, this is Mafia
And I'm telling you you're wrong in voting Jacob because he's Town

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:30 pm
by shos
Hay guyz lets vig tierce cuz if shes scum we'llnever get'er


Parlé vous Francais?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:30 pm
by shos
My ideas are good today

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:00 pm
by Plum
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VOTE COUNT 1:8
Shadoweh
- 2 - Desperado, PeregrineV
Natirasha
- 2 - ActionDan, shos
TheIrishPope
- 4 - Aegor, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber, Natirasha

Espeonage
- 1 - SpyreX
shos
- 1 - Shadoweh
sirdanilot
- 3 - Elscouta, Albert B. Rampage, Espeonage
Albert B. Rampage
- 1 - TheIrishPope
JacobSavage
- 2 - sirdanilot, Tierce

Not voting (2)
: JacobSavage, MafiaSSK

With 18 players alive it takes
10
votes to lynch.
Deadline is in
(expired on 2014-01-23 01:00:00)
.

MafiaSSK
and
Desperado
have been prodded.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:35 pm
by JacobSavage
Honestly I don't remember timelines, but given that that was a pretty major town-point post that was the first I remembed.

Before that post it was more that his posts in the "Neighbourhood" seemed to be relaxed in a away CES weren't quite.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:47 pm
by sirdanilot
Tierece, mafia is not a game you can play alone. You're looking for another game then. People will not play exactly the way you want to.

Also apparently my wagon wasn't so bad eh?

Spyrex who is scum other than should-die-esp?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:05 pm
by sirdanilot
Deadline is in 6 days, 18 hours, 56 minutes.
We haven't had a single GOOD wagon here, guys. Do you
really
think Town is going to win this way? Really?
I mean, I know the day 1 hate and all, but if you get some GOOD wagons on day 2 then you can use that info the other days.

With this apathetic town we're not getting anywhere. JacobSavage wagon is a good idea right now.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:08 pm
by TheIrishPope
Nat wagon is best wagon.
VOTE: Nat

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:12 pm
by TheIrishPope
Also, sirdan is dead weight at this point.
Vig: sirdanilot

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:12 pm
by sirdanilot
List of non-contributing people in this game:

ABR: Chooses two people, me and reck/tip, of which one is scum. Both are extremely bad choices. Posts absolutely no content at all.
MafiaSSK/Desp: Back when they posted they actually weren't half bad, but they should post
JS: No scum read, very shitty town read. This should die.
ESP: DERP LET ME CLAIM VANILLA AS A REACTION TEST DURP. Is also scum and should die.
Spyrex: Correctly states that esp should die, but am not seeing anything else other than some comments on me. More comments please.
Nat: is natirasha, nuff said ;)

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:13 pm
by sirdanilot
Oh for fucks sake tip

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:13 pm
by sirdanilot
Guys, wagon the following people:

JS
ABR
MAFIASSK (?)
ESP OF COURSE SHOULD DIE

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:17 pm
by Cogito Ergo Sum
In post 358, JacobSavage wrote:Before that post it was more that his posts in the "Neighbourhood" seemed to be relaxed in a away CES weren't quite.
Totes true.

Unvote, vote: MafiaSSK


Tierce, with me!

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:17 pm
by TheIrishPope
Oh so youre not scum?
Well then.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:22 pm
by Tierce
siridanilot, for the last fucking time:

Shut
the
hell
up.

YOU have no concept of what a team game is. YOU have no charisma whatsoever, and keep doing the same noisy bullshit you've been doing since the start of the game. You're not actually pushing for consolidation, because every single one of your posts is a torment to read. You're never going to manage to get the players to work together, so be quiet and let the grown ups do their thing. Post when you have something
new
to say.

Gaaaaah. This isn't the Fall of Gondolin, this is Morgoth's cry over and over and over again.


JacobSavage--let's play spot the difference between chamber and CES's "neighborhood" posts.


Spyspy:
In post 351, SpyreX wrote:Now that you made me go back and actually read it I'm not surprised at it bodes well for the future.

However actually trying to engage in something in this morass is a good sign.

Chamber taking the time to go meta as scum at this point looking for a bite under what would have been the strangest pretenses ever is waay more likely town and scum.
The English-Ur-quan translator failed in these sentences, I suspect. I think I know what you mean in each, but could you just clarify them?


PEdit: O hai!

Slow and steady and etc., I know, but humor me and be not-so-cryptic for a little while. Why SSK?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:26 pm
by Tierce
In post 268, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:

Code: Select all

Credit grab: MafiaSSK/Tierce/Elscouta/Aegor
In post 366, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
In post 358, JacobSavage wrote:Before that post it was more that his posts in the "Neighbourhood" seemed to be relaxed in a away CES weren't quite.
Totes true.

Unvote, vote: MafiaSSK


Tierce, with me!
For me to bus, you have to ask nicely~

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:26 pm
by TheIrishPope
What.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:29 pm
by TheIrishPope
I'm surprised Tierce isn't mad at me for shooting dan...?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:32 pm
by Tierce
CES thinks I'm scum. Which actually makes me feel good about him, because he's a pretty damn good Tierce-reader and I can't see him saying I'm scum as scum. Easier to work with me and lead me on with that sort of Tierce Townread he never explains.


PEdit: I didn't see the shot. I just saw your post and scrolled down to it--I thought it was a vote. If it's real (which I doubt, but whatever) thank you. He could flip lynchproof triplevoter Innocent Child and I'd still cheer.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:33 pm
by Shadoweh
Whoops, between the forum going down and self-outages and also my face having key prints five hours was slightly delayed
I'm still half-asleep so forgive if this isn't isn't understandable (the joke is my posts never are)

Since Tierce asked, my eyes are glazing over too many posts, normally it's easy to figure out who's derping and who isn't but uh.. it's hard to find a post in thread that isn't just Good Town and/or Derp Town. I'm looking at this list of who's left in my head and it's the people who are lurking/not posting and it's like, all the lurkers aren't all the scum, someone actually posting has to be scum too. ADan is being pretty, how do I put this, he's posting and not lurking to the fullest extent of the law, which is what he does as scum elsewhere. Also he feels like a solid dude and doesn't afraid of anything.

I'm at least ready to make a no-chance-in-hell pact on not voting Tierce, chamber, Actshun Dan, sirdanylyots (who people keep calling Dan, which is messing me up, there are two Dans in this game say their full names plz) and shos. I don't really have a read on Spyrex or CES other then 'is Spyrex' and 'is CES' but I don't really want to lynch either of them either. That still leaves.. a pretty decent list of people now that I look at it. Will look at actual list in next post since people are posting and I don't want to pass out first

Cut: I imagine Tierce thinks your vig is as believable as I do.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:34 pm
by Shadoweh
Tierce you know that thing I said earlier about not fighting with Reck because it probably wasn't productive
Imagine I said that a thousand times over every time you address sirdanilot because he's more likely to make more posts not listening to you then he is actually stop posting.