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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:10 am

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I don't let myself be led, in part because of the general scumminess of leading the cop and such, in part because I think I know better.
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for suggesting that. I've been suspicious of you for quite a while.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:25 am

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i guess i was a bit hypocritical in my last post

i forgot that you are basically a buffed version of a cop and then i said dont lead cops.

the reason is because you were pretty high on my scum list yesterday and i want you to be more accountable
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:38 am

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Vote: logicticus

It doesn't matter if Zindaras targets someone who gets killed than night? It means he basically wastes an investigation. If an innocent gets nightkilled, it's better if Zindaras targetted someone else, then at least we would have someone near confirmed the next day.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:43 am

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i interpreted your statement about the scum killing who zin targets differently, but i understand the confusion

i thought you didnt understand zins role and that you were saying if we pick a target and the scum kills that target, then it would implicate zin. I was just saying it wouldnt implicate him. Once again, this is all because I thought you misread the role and I was trying to clarify

Instead Ive just dug myself a hole.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:49 am

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So do you still think we should be picking Zindaras's target?
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:53 am

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no, and i said that a couple posts ago. i forgot buried underneath all the flavor he was a cop at heart
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:28 pm

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I skimmed the thread to see if our revelations (DGB as SK, Patrick as Town) are useful in any way. Here's a short re-analysis. If you want some more in-depth thoughts about my reasoning behind the analysis, go ahead:

Ameliaslay: Does not appear to even be trying to catch scum. I'm suspicious of her.
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Spectrumvoid: Patrick's revelation of being Town casts him in a very different light. Spectrumvoid is another of the non-contributors.
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Logiticus: Tried to lead me, attacked Patrick for trying to lead the power roles yesterday. Posts, but doesn't contribute a lot.
Patrick: About as confirmed as you can get with the SK outta Town. I don't think my role has godfather problems. The only potential godfather problem is the unseducable person, which I think DGB was, potentially.
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Zindaras: Make up your own mind.
Zodiac: I was pretty sure about Zodiac being Town yesterday. My sureness has weakened somewhat, mainly because, looking at my reread, Zodiac hasn't really contributed himself. He was defended, and he was attacked. He didn't do a whole lot himself. I do, however, think the people attacking him were scummier than he was.
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HackerHuck: Attacked Thom and DGB. Hasn't produced a lot of content besides that big post. Cast doubt on my claim.
MrBuddyLee: Very unsure about him. I started off with thinking he was Town, but my quick skim made me unsure.
Dead Rikimaru: Made a big attack on Thom, faded into the background since then. Slightly suspicious.

Which brings my scum list to:
1: Logictitus
2: Ameliaslay
3: HackerHuck
4: Dead Rikimaru
5: MBL
6: Spectrumvoid
7: Zodiac
8: Patrick
9: Zindaras

I want to hear a lot more contribution from basically everyone, as well.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:36 pm

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I'm willing to give spectrumvoid some time to reread, though it would be nice to know she's around. I am having problems getting a decent read on anyone because of the mass lurking. Hard to work out who is scum and who is just lazy town.

Logicticus has slipped up slightly, so probably would top my list, but not my much. I suppose I am least suspicious of Zindaras because I believe his claim and on top of that he seems to be more interested than others in finding scum.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:47 pm

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Mod
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:17 am

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Zindaras wrote: Ameliaslay: Does not appear to even be trying to catch scum. I'm suspicious of her.

Actually she hasn't even posted for a while.
Zindaras wrote: Zodiac: I was pretty sure about Zodiac being Town yesterday. My sureness has weakened somewhat, mainly because, looking at my reread, Zodiac hasn't really contributed himself. He was defended, and he was attacked. He didn't do a whole lot himself. I do, however, think the people attacking him were scummier than he was.

I've had my time to understand my role correctly.
Zindaras wrote:
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HackerHuck: Attacked Thom and DGB. Hasn't produced a lot of content besides that big post. Cast doubt on my claim.
Hasn't been around lately , and he also wanted to restart bandwagon on me.
Zindaras wrote: Dead Rikimaru: Made a big attack on Thom, faded into the background since then. Slightly suspicious.
I think he needs a prod.

Sorry if i'm a little inactive , but i need time to undrstand some things. :oops:
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:18 am

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Oh my gosh my quote went terribly wrong. :oops:
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:13 am

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Sorry everyone, I thought this game was still at night. I disagree with directing investigations just in general principle. I have to do a proper read to get in, but for now I'm also suspecting the lurking people.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:13 am

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Oh, I forgot. Hie Patrick! Xi, I am around.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:21 am

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Hi spectrumvoid! Are you scum?
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:08 am

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Yes, Zodiac, you need time. It would, however, be useful if you tried to catch scum. I'd like to get some (preferably in-depth, but anything's good) opinions about other players.

I understand spectrumvoid's situation, but I'd like the same for her.

In fact, I'd like it from everyone.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:33 am

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I promise a long and detailed post by tomorrow afternoon, my time.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:40 am

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Okay. That makes me a happy kitten. *smiles happily*

Anyway, gogogadgetlurkerpressuring.

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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:15 am

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*ouch* :x

Third on your list and I get the vote?

I think doubting your claim is a little strong - just skeptical.

Based on your suspicious actions late in the day yesterday (absolute certainty about both Zodiac and Patrick, yet perfectly happy to let your certain townie take a fall, blaming your lurking on your role, etc.) I was ready to vote you. Your claim seems a little convenient to explain your rather odd behaviour. That said, it's also a pretty cleverly made up role if you're lying - and we can't really validate it until you're dead. With the SK gone, I can only see it as a pro-town role. There are actually three options here. One is you and Patrick are both scum (doubtful to me), you're both town (probable), or you're scum telling the truth about Patrick (possible). Since I didn't find you scummy before your late day actions yesterday, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. I'm just going to keep my healthy skepticism though.

I was ready to start the day off with a vote on Thom, but since he's been replaced, I want to see what SpectrumVoid will offer us in the way of insight. I buy Patrick as town, so I'm very interested on his take about now.

I don't care for Logicticus' leading the "cop", so he's climbed up the heap alongside of Thom. I'm still surprised that it doesn't bother Zindaras enough to warrant a vote.
FoS: Logicticus


We're still not getting much good information from Amelia. She showed up, but made a brief and useless comment about N0 before disappearing again. This is what I would consider lurking in plain sight.
Vote: Ameliaslay


Zodiac's also guilty of similar actions. I'm still feeling like he's more town than not, but we need to have everyone involved or we'll end up with another two-vote decision to lynch (or not.)

Not much to say about MBL. He contributes, but I would like to see him make more of a committment with his votes today. Yesterday he placed one vote early on and kept it there until night. :P

I think we need to get Riki replaced. He posted earlier that he's having troubles that prevent him from posting and his last relevant post was regarding the debate with Thom over the SK.

Overall, I agree with Patrick's assertion that we need to keep on the sideliners. Although I'll still keep my eye on Logicticus and Zindaras.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:55 am

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Ahem. If I'm lurking in plain sight, it is because I'm doing so across the board. I'e already asked for my replacement in another game. I'm here, reading, and I'll post substantially this weeken, which is about the only truly free time I have any more.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:36 pm

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HackerHuck wrote:*ouch* :x

Third on your list and I get the vote?
Because I saw you browsing Coney Island and not responding.
I don't care for Logicticus' leading the "cop", so he's climbed up the heap alongside of Thom. I'm still surprised that it doesn't bother Zindaras enough to warrant a vote.
FoS: Logicticus
How would a logictitus vote be a good idea? We don't get a lot of information by bandwagoning him. We get information by getting lurkers to post, which is what I'm trying to do.

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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:04 pm

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I'm not a fan of making votes based on when one sees others browsing or for how long. I'll frequently camp out on the board for hours while at work, so it looks like I'm spending more time "actively lurking" when I'm actively working.

We get information both ways and we might also manage to lynch some scum while we're at it - unless you're one of them. :wink: I too would like to press some of the infrequent posters more. I'm thinking we've got more ignorers than lurkers though.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:37 pm

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HackerHuck wrote:I'm not a fan of making votes based on when one sees others browsing or for how long. I'll frequently camp out on the board for hours while at work, so it looks like I'm spending more time "actively lurking" when I'm actively working.
I'm not a fan of the strategy either (in fact, I camp out on the boards very often as well), but this way, I knew I was pressuring someone who was, at least, around. Makes for quicker replies than pressuring people who just aren't around, and I wanted to hear from everyone.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:45 pm

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For starters, after thinking about it overnight, I'm finding Huck a lot less scummy than Katy. More to come in a subsequent post.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:57 am

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Hie again, I've gone through the entire game. Point form for now because I'm tired from work, sorry.

- Someone was thinking of voting me today, care to explain why?
- I believe Zin's role because I think it can be verified.
- It's generally scummy to direct night actions. But I don't think the person who suggested is a scum-tell, because I can understand a bit about why he wanted to do so.
- Currently, I don't know who is scummiest, because of the massive lurking.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:01 am

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I was originally planning on voting Thom today because he was highest on my list. I tried to explain my case in post 286. He's been very quick to push cases on people where his arguments were either very flawed or weak - Riki and Zodiac. I was also hoping a vote would help pull him out of hiding and get some more discussion started.

I didn't vote for a few reasons. The SK issue was partially behind my case against Thom, so DG's death explained a piece of that. Most importantly, I am concerned about the lurking and how it's hurt the town. Spectrum's not cleared yet in my book, but I'm looking more at the lurkers right now. I would like a little more meat about your suspicions. The lurking is prevalent now, but we are over 350 posts and that means a fair amount of content from earlier in the game. I also noticed you dodged Patrick's question... :wink:

Since we're discussing suspicions on SpectrumVoid...
Zindaras - You had voted Thom to lynch at the end of the day. How have last night's events changed your feelings?
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