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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:51 pm

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This is outrageous. If we’re going on a 3 mafia set up, we’d have been 5-3 yesterday. Without a Doc protection, a mislynch would have cost us the game. To credit IH’s theory as feasible, we’d have to take the idea that:
1-Ecto is mafia
2-Ecto would be willing to gamble a phony roleclaim against the minute possibility that we have no cop.
3-And after succeeding in his phony roleclaim, he would bus his scumbuddy instead of sending one of us to the gallows on a phony investigation that would have won him the game!
4-And Ecto would be willing to do all this with no scumbuddies dead and inches from a victory.

Give me a freaking break! Again, I stress No Lynch is only going to result in a dead confirmed townie. There not going to kill the unconfirmed. Ask yourself, will you be any closer to knowing who scum is after Ecto is gone?

I’m claiming Vanilla Town. I have no doubts in Ecto’s roleclaim. My two suspects are Primate/DM and IH. I would be comfortable voting either one.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:23 pm

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A famous bug in MM1 is the Elecman Pause trick; when using Elecman's weapon, by repeated pausing and unpausing you can get mutliple hit on an enemy. In particular, you can kill bosses like the Yellow Demon with one hit this way.

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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:45 pm

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I feel stupid. My only defense is that I was majorly demoralized when my investigation was NK'd.
Can we clear Shanba/Ameliaslay somehow? Going to do a re-read there.
I was not sure about IH, but that was a great misdirection and what makes it even worse was that the entire reason I claimed when I had only 1 guilty was because we were already lylo yesterday. Otherwise I would have waited for 1 more result.
As for a scum buddy, DM was already on the short list. It would only give me doubt if a re-read on Amelia somehow came up with something.
I realize to be fair to Primate, who was kind enough to replace in, I should give a synopsis of my suspicions so that he can attempt a rebuttal. I've been procrastinating a re-read required to get it done, but I'll get out the notepad in the next day or so and look at DM and Amelia.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:31 am

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I'll save you he trouble: I'm the mason. I'm Ken's theme.
Akbar is right. We now have three confirmed innocents out of 6, and probably two scum. If we no lynch, we end up with 2 confirmeds out of 5, a lower ratio, and, crucially, the same amount of unconfirmeds. Also, in the 2/5 scenario the scum have more voting power: currently they have to wait until there are two votes on a town player before they an quicklynch, tomorrow they would only need 1.
IH, if there were no confirmed innocents, your play would be correct. As it is, however, it gives a larger proportion of votes to the scum while gaining us a confirmation that is all but assured anyway.
I think IH/Primate are the scum, and the play today is Primate.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:05 am

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unvote, vote:Shanba


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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:35 am

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Vote: IH


I was very suspicious of him when he voted No Lynch in this situation, but now it is his word against the word of someone else, I choose not to believe him.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:42 am

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Vote:IH

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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:54 am

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Vega is a criminal.

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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:34 am

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I would quite like a chance to actually say something before you go speedlynching, unless you mind? I'll post likely tomorrow and if not tomorrow the day after, working under the knowledge that you've already been waiting for me for while already.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:54 am

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Ok
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:37 pm

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ecto wrote:Vega is a criminal.

vote IH
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:38 pm

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Seriously, this is all wifomy and such but.... if my rolename is not "vegas theme" and I'm a searching mason, why would I not just counterclaim Ken's theme, and say I am Ken's theme?
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:26 pm

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IH wrote:
unvote, vote:Shanba


Now I know Shanba is scum, as
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am his mason partner, but I am not Ken's theme, I am Vega's theme, and I am a searching mason. I can search for street fighters each night, and if I find one I become their mason partner.
His claim seems awfully scetchy. Aside from Vega being a criminal in the game, I've never heard of a searching mason. But, even if that was true, why would he assume Ameliaslay/Shanba was scum? Wouldn't Math have a mason partner already before IH allegedly joined them?

There is also the video game correlation of Mathcam(Ryu) being Ken's partner. Thok’s role setup does seem to have significance:

Mathcam, chamber, remus and kilmenator roles seem to match the theme.

I tried to narrow down who could be probable mason's when math was NKed. Before Ecto claimed, I was down to him and Ameliaslay(now Shanba). IH wasn't one of my choices, so now I'm convinced he's scum.

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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:22 am

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Akbar wrote:His claim seems awfully scetchy. Aside from Vega being a criminal in the game, I've never heard of a searching mason. But, even if that was true, why would he assume Ameliaslay/Shanba was scum? Wouldn't Math have a mason partner already before IH allegedly joined them?

There is also the video game correlation of Mathcam(Ryu) being Ken's partner. Thok’s role setup does seem to have significance:

Mathcam, chamber, remus and kilmenator roles seem to match the theme.

I tried to narrow down who could be probable mason's when math was NKed. Before Ecto claimed, I was down to him and Ameliaslay(now Shanba). IH wasn't one of my choices, so now I'm convinced he's scum.
Err, I wouldn't join them, if you didn't notice I counterclaimed. There is no way we could both be masons.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:57 am

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You guys are right. I prefer Amelia as mason too. Mathcam attacked IH early D1, it didn't feel like distancing. If IH was telling the truth about the searching mason thing, that would totally explain that, but a searching mason who dies unfound coming up on death as a normal mason annoys me. I don't think it likely. Plus, IH hasn't really been playing like a mason does. When I read the thread, Amelia struck me as the most likely to be scum, mostly due to the fact that the way she'd been playing this game seems to tally more with the lazy Ameliascum than her more active town persona, but now I look at it in the mason light, it could also be that irritating thing that confirmed townies (in particular, vigs) get, where they just get lazy and think that as they don't need to defend themselves, scumhunting is less of a priority. I could easily chalk it up to that. That said, I think Shanba's posts today have been excellent. And I really don't think that a new player like Shanba would have the balls to come out with an original-gonna-be-counterclaimed claim like that.

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preying on mind though is the kill methods. We know (or at least can strongly suspect) that the mafia kill with methods related to who they actually are, due to the fact that people were stopped in time, and this is how Flashman kills people in Megaman. The thing is, last nights kill happened with a large ball of energy. And Vega doesn't kill with a large ball or energy. Ken does.

In conclusion, I am unsure, really. I think Amelia is the most likely mason, but I am much less than sure than I would like to be. And the fact that we had such speedy support of an IH lynch by so many people in a lynch or lose situation doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:57 am

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Alright. I think Im gone after this, but it looks like everyone that I think is town agrees that IH is one of our scum.

Tomorrow, it looks like a setup to pit Primate against Akbar. Good luck scum hunting. Im honestly torn, because even though I was heavily suspicious of Draygen, I also realize that an IH/Akbar combo could have come up with this no lynch idea as a vehicle for distancing.

<crosses fingers>

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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:04 am

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Vote Count


IH (4): (Akbar, Apeiron, Ectomancer, Shanba)
Shanba (1): (IH)

Not Voting (1): (Primate)

IH goes "I'm Vega!"

"Isn't that likely scum?"

IH proceeds to jump onto a wall and leaps into the air, preparing to dive at you. Fortunately, everybody dodged.

IH, Vega's theme, Super Street Fighter II, SNES,
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http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ni ... s/vega.mid

It is now night. Get choices in quickly. I would like to reopen up the game by Monday April 2.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:25 am

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Ectomancer is found dead, struck by a large energy ball.

"Um, is it really likely that large energy balls exist?" asks Ectomancer.

Sorry, but that's what I have.

OBJECTION!!


No, really, Ectomancer, Investigation: Cornered, Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney, DS,
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With 4 alive, it's 3 to lynch.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:27 am

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Right then. Going to reread Akbar and Primate/ Draygn_mage's posts. Right now I'm leaning Primate/draygn_mage.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:02 am

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@Akbar, if you were the last mafia, what would be your rationale for killing Ectomancer?

I would prefer a massclaim, too. Aside from simple weak claims, there's also not much point in me rereading again and making a case if an info claims crops up and explains away my points.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:16 am

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We're halfway there already: I've claimed Ken's Theme, Mason, Akbar has claimed townie (but I don't think he's name-claimed). If we mass-claim and mass-name-claim I suggest Apeiron goes last: he may be able to catch a scum in a fake-claim.

I haven't got much from my reads of the individual posts: I think I'll do a full reread in order to get an idea of context.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:15 am

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I'm in favor of a mass claim.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:15 pm

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I already RCed vanilla town. I'm the Moon Stage theme from Duck Tales(NES).

Vote Primate


I agree with Apeiron going last.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:19 pm

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Akbar wrote:I already RCed vanilla town. I'm the Moon Stage theme from Duck Tales(NES).

Vote Primate


I agree with Apeiron going last.
is there a reason you ignored my question and decided to vote so quickly?
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:23 pm

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oh, and I'm happy to claim now, if you want.
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