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↑ Spifflop wrote:elyse, join us on the fruit train

↑ Spider Gwen wrote:@Elyse: And exactly how do you think scum push a slip accusation?

↑ Spifflop wrote:

↑ Alchemist21 wrote:Because it look like he's trying to force a sense of confidence in his posts in an attempt to get people to just go along with what he says. I've seen Anen correctly tunnel a scum player for an entire game without snark, so I don't really believe it's necessary for Town Anen or that it's coming from Town Anen.

I don't like this explanation either. I don't get how the first sentence is even a bad thing. And it's a huge jump to base a meta argument off of what looks to me like RVS trolling. Especially when it's as basic as "X didn't do this in a previous town game therefore scum".

Alchemist, grapes, and Klingon would all be good wagons.

~Spiffy

↑ Spifflop wrote:
PEdit: EE reads as new town eager to play the game and a little over his head.

~Spiffy

↑ Elyse wrote:

↑ Spifflop wrote:elyse, join us on the fruit train

I am slightly scumreading grapes for no follow-up like Aneninen

I'm interested to see grapes' response to the pressure though.

↑ Errantparabola wrote:Itlepip, what do you think about my interpretation on your eagle is lying case

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:Like this post here by AJ. Klingon should be swinging here.
~Titus

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:Jeanne RVSed AJ. Not sure where se's talking about it not matching what I said earlier

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:VOTE: Aunt Jemina
This is the other head.

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:It's early enough, I can give you time and

Jeanne wants to pursue AJ for awhile

, but I got my eye on you.

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:@51 both heads agree you look like scum. Jeanne's gut.
We asked why EE doesn't like the thread.

Jeanne pressed on AJ.

↑ Errantparabola wrote:itlepip, I might be reading this wrong, but your case seems to be a misunderstanding.

I think the gambit Eagle speaks of first is the whole "not voting" gambit
The gambit Eagle speaks of as being too risky is the whole "getting involved in everything point that Garmr made" gambit

Correct me if I'm wrong, Eagle

↑ itlepip wrote:What gambit are you talking about right now?

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

↑ itlepip wrote:What gambit are you talking about right now?[/quotei don't specifically remember what it was. It was awhile ago, and on another site.

↑ grapes wrote:151 looks like a scum wall

↑ Aneninen wrote:AuntJennina, your 128 is <3 vote included

↑ grapes wrote:VOTE: spifflop

↑ I Am Innocent wrote:Interesting that you point out the buddying towards AJ, yet your vote doesn't go towards any player buddying her. And you vote itle for post 203? That's weaker than weak sauce.
Your play feels very careful and contrived. Awaiting spiffehs meta on you, but in the meantime

vote: Extrapolated Eagle

↑ Spider Gwen wrote:Stranger's posts have a "look everyone! I'm busy!" quality to them. I also don't think the Jaquen head would approach a scum read in that manner.

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:

Extrapolated Eagle

(4): Garmr, I Am Innocent, itlepip, Elyse

Aneninen

(3): Passionate Storm, T S O, Alchemist21

↑ Spifflop wrote:I will go there as soon as I get confirmation from my more well dressed partner!

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ Spider Gwen wrote:Stranger's posts have a "look everyone! I'm busy!" quality to them. I also don't think the Jaquen head would approach a scum read in that manner.

A man isn't busy but is finding Battlefront of much and more interest than this. That is having nothing to do with scum reading this one. Gwen is scum and anyone touching a wagon that one is helping to champion is pushing a mislynch.

↑ itlepip wrote:kk UNVOTE: all I needed. When you were saying that you didn't do the gambit I thought you were referring to the first gambit not the second non-gambit. I think you can understand why I was confused.

VOTE: Grapes

Pedit: ohh it is this guy, great...

a man thinks that a man's style of posting might make a man mad at a man so a man wants a man to stop saying a man when referring to a man or a man.

↑ I Am Innocent wrote:

↑ Errantparabola wrote:

↑ Spifflop wrote:EP what are your some of your thoughts outside of EE?

~Spiffy

I can definitely follow and agree with what most of what Gwen is saying outside of the Titus read and the Garmr trying to interact with Gwen being town points.
So for that, Gwen is town.

Don't understand the townreads on AJ.

209 don't understand if this is legitimate misunderstanding or just a deflection. I'm leaning towards the latter.
That being said I don't think 172 seems rehearsed and although I am slightly uncomfortable with how spifflop says it is (172 seemed like a post that someone who wanted to push a mislynch would say is rehearsed), the lop part is acting pretty towny.

I do not like 203. VOTE: itlepip
Disregarding whether or not 172 is genuine

Interesting that you point out the buddying towards AJ, yet your vote doesn't go towards any player buddying her. And you vote itle for post 203? That's weaker than weak sauce.

Your play feels very careful and contrived. Awaiting spiffehs meta on you, but in the meantime

vote: Extrapolated Eagle

↑ My Other Head Is Scum wrote:@Extrapolated Eagle, I like the effort your putting into this, but I can gurantee you will get burned out pretty quickly at this if you try to keep that amount for whole game. The game speed for this is much different than a blitz. Its more casual game.

I like you man, don't get burned out.

-Fire

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

↑ Garmr wrote:[

Since it's 3 am will elaborate on a few things. English is my first language but
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/skim
a.

To read or glance through (a book, for example) quickly

or superficially.
I'm using it as in the term quickly I looked through it quickly your pushing as I looked through superficially. Is there really even a point in arguing this because even after a a reread i still like my points which I noticed straight away. They still stand. It's scummy to to try and devalue ones case by something other than the case its self.

Fine. I take it you're saying you read the thread through and still like your points? Then I'll respond to them.

I don't understand how you came about this 360 when a couple of posts ago you were saying this

This is what I mean when I say you don't read.

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
I'm just going to put this out there: (I haven't had a chance to reread the thread yet) but at this moment in time I disagree with a majority of your reads. We'll have to discuss this in detail tomorrow.

Yes, I'd like to sit back and observe. But we don't always get what we want, do we? And I like starting things off.

I was tired and these were gut reaction reads. They were quick and I hadn't had time to take a step back from the thread. That's when my reads are best.

↑ Garmr wrote:6 pages already. After a quick glance I'm going to say

VOTE: Extrapolated Eagle

I don't really trust the bird. He seems to want to get involved in everything. He also didn't really provide a good reasoning for voting epola and never does.

Reasoning you disagree with is not necessarily bad reasoning

I would think a town player would try and push his first suspect to reveal more information instead his sitting back defending himself and I think trying to justify his vote by defending himself.

.. so you would prefer I don't try to justify my vote and ignore the numerous accusations against me? I don't have an infinite amount of time. Also, as I have said multiple times (though not necessarily before this post) this was a gambit and I need time to go back and think about the results before I push further. It would be stupid to tunnel him before backing off and checking on everyone else and making sure I'm going the right way with it. In my experience gambits can go horribly wrong and "scum reads" can be for the wrong reasons and end up being town.

His other content is meh.

Quote which content, pls.

↑ Garmr wrote:
Scum want to be involved in everything so they look like they are doing something tell me what has eagle actually contributed to hunting scum. His vote epola was bullshit yet his been involved with all these other events I would think a townie who was involved in everything would push more on a scum read showing eagerness. This seems like scum eagerness to look town.

Actually, if I was scum, I would AVOID putting my neck on the line to get some reads at game start. It just doesn't seem smart to start the game attracting a whole lot of attention that I really don't like when I play scum.

↑ Garmr wrote:4.I read your singular reason for the scum read

This actually sounds like quite a few reasons to me. Perhaps you miscounted here?

I don't think it's any good. Post 100 right is the full explanation of your read. So you scum read him in short for tunneling you and not having much attention to whats around him until he finished tunneling you and started paying attention to them right thus not giving you as much attention even through his votes on you. Kinda sounds like a bs reason to me and a delayed omgus so people wouldn't mention that. Now you unvote when he unvotes you and you are being pushed by someone else.......

You don't have to like my reasoning. That's your problem. But I do have to say it's pretty early in the day, and I have to say I don't like your reasoning for voting me either. .

-- @ Passionate storm

Ok I'll see when I can get to it. But between work, eating, responding to garmr, and trying to stay on top of elyse I'm kind of short on time at the moment

↑ Spifflop wrote:

↑ I Am Innocent wrote:Can you link that game cause right now I'm leaning scum there?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=63747

Look at his early play and it's obvious it's hard for him to find a footing (which I correctly called out but foolishly dropped the issue after he wrote a wall).
He seems a lot more comfortable and willing to engage here.

~Spiffy

↑ Alchemist21 wrote:

↑ My Other Head Is Scum wrote:Hey guys, I need to read up on whats going on.

HEY ALCHEMIST!!!
Whats up bro?

And Garmr, damn I need to pay more attention in sign ups, so many awesome people in this game and I didn't notice at all lol.
Fail

-FIre

I'm doing good. You?

And from your 259 and 260 I'd say you're Town.

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:

↑ Alchemist21 wrote:

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:@Alch, Please don't skip over questions for you. Not cool. Was that Spider Gwen vote RVS? Why did you change?

@EE, I am not bothering with 10 gallons of roleplay to get to your reads. Can you use names and dump the filler? Ty.

Will catch up later.

~Titus

Yes, it was RVS and was meant to get a few reactions. I was hoping it would do more than it did. Spifflop following right after me was interesting, but since he knows her it could have just been coincidence.

Why did you change?

That should be obvious. I have an actual scumread on Anen.

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

↑ Errantparabola wrote:
You've already proven you can think ahead. What's to say that you didn't put your neck on the line just so that you can use this defense later?
I personally don't believe it, just want to hear your response.

Far too risky. I'm a horrible actor. I did try to gambit once as scum and I don't think I've ever been lynched faster, with the exception of my first couple mafia games - I was annoying as crap (still kinda am, I guess) and stupid and thought that everyone that voted me must be scum.
When I gambit as I have a hard time figuring out how to read people without cutting my options down too much. I haven't played scum much before.

↑ Varsoon wrote:

↑ Shiro wrote:@AneN

Nah Shiro is town and I have no idea who clotilde is

↑ Shiro wrote:

↑ Aneninen wrote:You could be Clotilde.
So, do you want to be Clotilde?

I am already

Captain James Tiberius Kirk though

I have a very bad feeling about this.
VOTE: Shiro