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Inactive slots are still scum candidates (stronger than townreads).

Creature wrote:Not doing anything scummy is easy, being towny isn't.

But you're scumreading a person who appears to have just dropped off the face of the planet.
yes OK don;t town read them, but really saying you want to lynch them is ridiculous. If they were dodging the thread to avoid discussions that may be one thing, but that's not the same as not playing the game at all.

In post 351, BlackStar wrote:VOTE: creature

Also Creature is now L-1.

Okay fine

I would actually suggest to wagon massive only when I know he's around, the list was "players I would show no resistance to wagon"

It's about time to dissipate this wagon and actually look where everyone was when this wagon formed.

UNVOTE:

i think my vote was on creature i don't want someone at L-1 this early lol

xyzzy RV'd you first and just never unvoted. They probably aren't even serious.
light just voted you and other than you looked scummy nothing stated about it.
I know me and Naomi voted you because your push on me was terribly plus you immediately backed off.
Transcend voted you because you were saying that scum would be joining your wagon.
I don't know about Black but I assume he just voted you because he thinks you are very scummy. That's about the only reason to push someone to L-1.

I voted him because all his recent posts are useless fluff. he's not trying to figure things out

I don't know. If you are town and scum was trying to push you as fast as they could it would likely be light or black that would be the scum on that wagon.
Light just doesn't have a lot in terms of reason for voting you. Plus their comment in post 140 is a slight scumtell as scum do usually have a harder time scum reading people when they know everyone is not scum.
Black is mainly suspicious for pushing you to L-1 ad not pointing it out. That wouldn't be a hard scum quicklynch to pull off with one person voting and not saying it is L-1 and another scum to come in and vote a little later claiming they didn't realize they were at L-1 and they thought Creature was at L-2, but that isn't too likely as that means 2 scum would have to be online and not currently voting creature to devise a plan to do that.

Black is town.

In post 360, Creature wrote:Black is town.

agree

I can at least make a proper case against light_ganski and Vedith, aka they're hiding in the shadow.

go for it

i'm an advocate of vedith rope

Right now I could do Creature or Light, though going back and reading Light's ISO I think they are a bit more suspicious than Creature.
I don't see them as being TvT at the very least, and SvS is questionable so it looks like it would be TvS.

VOTE: Light
That post I mentioned earlier just doesn't quite sit right with me.

As for Vedith I don't know. I would need to look more at them.

In post 359, Io wrote:I don't know. If you are town and scum was trying to push you as fast as they could it would likely be light or black that would be the scum on that wagon.
Light just doesn't have a lot in terms of reason for voting you. Plus their comment in post 140 is a slight scumtell as scum do usually have a harder time scum reading people when they know everyone is not scum.
Black is mainly suspicious for pushing you to L-1 ad not pointing it out. That wouldn't be a hard scum quicklynch to pull off with one person voting and not saying it is L-1 and another scum to come in and vote a little later claiming they didn't realize they were at L-1 and they thought Creature was at L-2, but that isn't too likely as that means 2 scum would have to be online and not currently voting creature to devise a plan to do that.

That would be really suspicious though. It wouldn't make sense to take unnecessary risks like that and bring attention to yourself

In post 140, light_ganski wrote:Yh you guys all look town from this

There are scum in jordarrian vedith + creature. Maybe blackstar too

In post 141, light_ganski wrote:VOTE: Creature

lol that's self-explanatory

He's prob distancing Vedith here.

In post 367, BlackStar wrote:

In post 359, Io wrote:I don't know. If you are town and scum was trying to push you as fast as they could it would likely be light or black that would be the scum on that wagon.
Light just doesn't have a lot in terms of reason for voting you. Plus their comment in post 140 is a slight scumtell as scum do usually have a harder time scum reading people when they know everyone is not scum.
Black is mainly suspicious for pushing you to L-1 ad not pointing it out. That wouldn't be a hard scum quicklynch to pull off with one person voting and not saying it is L-1 and another scum to come in and vote a little later claiming they didn't realize they were at L-1 and they thought Creature was at L-2, but that isn't too likely as that means 2 scum would have to be online and not currently voting creature to devise a plan to do that.

That would be really suspicious though. It wouldn't make sense to take unnecessary risks like that and bring attention to yourself

Which is why I concluded that that is not very likely as it requires insane planning and 2 people who can easily play dumb and pass for being dumb.

Creature wrote:He's prob distancing Vedith here.

Could that argument not also apply to you though?

In post 294, light_ganski wrote:Town - KTS, Naomi, Transcend, Xyzzy, maybe Io, Pistachi0n
Scum - Creature, vedith
Dunno - jordarrian, blackstar

He tagged KTS, Naomi and Transcend as town because he wouldn't want to 1v1 then.

I wonder how he got to xyzzy and pistachi0n.

In post 370, Io wrote:Could that argument not also apply to you though?

It could, but it sounds more like the "Vote: Townie FoS: Buddy"

light_ganski + Vedith + Xyzzy/pistachi0n/Jordarrian?